Bank roof "occupied"...then Gardaí beat them up :D

But the banks are closed on a Saturday

Passed on a bus on the way in and out of town today, seemed to be more Gardai than actual protesters.

It has to be said though, you KNOW some of those gardai were chomping on the bit for there to be a scuffle! I believe sometimes the attitude of the gardai can influence a situation. And they seemed very much an aggitated presence today when I saw them!

We do need to take to the streets to show our disgust at the government and their safety netting of their rich country crippling buddies but in all honesty Storming a roof is not really the best idea though!

the_syco wrote: »

I hope the first protester who goes into the bank to terrify the staff there gets shot.

If that doesn't learn them, keep shooting.

Some people on boards really seem to fetishise authority. It's not surprising considering they seem to enjoy the banks ****ing them.

spudington16 wrote: »

As has already been said, these protesters aren't achieving anything.

I have nothing against people voicing their dissent, but only in a peaceful manner, and one that doesn't involve trespass. Greece is a prime example of what happens when a demonstration of this type goes too far, and their reputation comes out looking worse than ever. If people have problems with policies they should take it up with their TDs or the ministers by corresponding with them.

This is a democracy, and the Government of this country was elected by the majority of our society to take decisions on our behalf with regard to the running of the country. We can't second-guess every decision just because it is a little unsavoury. At the end of the Government's term we can assess its success (or otherwise) and then decide whether or not to re-elect them. We have a few tough years ahead of us, but if we all work together we should come out of it stronger than ever at the end.

Nice party political broacast

I find it hilarious that people pretend to worry about 'trespass' which is probably the most minor crime you could commit....yet have a weird absence of righteous indignation when it comes to the repeated enormous criminal fraud/corruption/neglect committed by bankers and politicians....

Are people actually that worried what the neighbours think...? Better to be seen as a population of champion sufferers that can take it in the ass over and over than to risk the neighbours knowing we are just a whisker away from Iceland or Greece...:rolleyes:

Thing is ....they know....we are not fooling anyone ! The pretence is farcical.

Yes we know we have to take the pain but we don't have to smile politely as we are doing it. The problem with pretending everything is ok is the Govermnent are losing the run of themselves....they're not apologetic about what they've visited on us. They hold us in utter contempt, laws are getting more draconian. They're starting to push us around now.

We can take so much but they don't know where the line is. Its far from a democracy at the moment. Its a dictatorship.

spudington16 wrote: »

You can't just decide which laws you like to suit your needs.

Of course I can.

spudington16 wrote: »

The fact that you're calling it a "minor crime" to justify the protesters' actions doesn't change the fact that trespass is illegal.

I'm not trying to justify their actions. I dont care about their commie agenda or whatever they're propounding. But they did no harm to anyone.

I don't give a sh!te that trespass is illegal. They didn't even get done with trespass anyway. They got done for public order, in other words, doing stuff cops and politicians dont like that might get them on the news.

spudington16 wrote: »

Both Cowen (link) and Bertie acknowledged their role in our current situation in the past few days.

HA! And you think that's a co-incidence? Its been done now for a reason. Ther is some sort of enquiry about to name and shame them. So their tardy 'mea culpa' is merely spin and maneuvering before they are named and shamed.

spudington16 wrote: »

The fact is that, worldwide and especially in Ireland, mistakes were made in the past.

'Mistakes'?

You've got to be kidding me. Wholesale deliberate economic vandalism. Political self preservation and protection for their building/banking cronies.

Their hypocrisy is revolting.

spudington16 wrote: »

Anyone who acted illegally in bringing this country to its current position should of course be brought to justice, but personally right now I'd rather let the Government continue with its plans to revive the economy as a matter of priority.

I agree. But eventually I want heads on plates. I want people to do time and pay for what they have done. I don't forgive them. I'll allow them to continue with their recovery plan until the next election but then I want them punished, severely and painfully.

spudington16 wrote: »

Out of curiosity, which laws, specifically, do you think have become more draconian of late?

Drug laws, have a look at the huge thread on AH at the moment.

spudington16 wrote: »

Do you want to qualify that? How, precisely, is Ireland like a dictatorship at present?

We are being ruled by a Govermnent that has no mandate. THEY decided we had to bail out Anglo simply telling us it wsa cheaper to bail to than to wind it down. We never got to see the figures we just have to take their word for it. Known proven liars. Thats just one example. We are not consulted about anything, it's forced on us and they tell us we have no choice as they pat us on the heads like babies.

mike65 wrote: »

They are not standing up for you or me they are a bunch of stupid lefties trots

Eh, Anarchism is not left or right wing...... Its about responsability and organisation. Unfortunatly like every political ideology, its not going to work unless everybody wants it to.Which they don't.

And on the protester bit, it wasn't till the Poll Tax riots that any body did anything. You can march around in circles till you're blue in the face but once you damage property or people, thats when the government can't ignore it. But when there is a small amount of semi-extreme (fed up people essentially) activists, its pretty easy to start questioning their motives and their actions.

At the end of the day, its all about motives.

Banks were motivated by profit, and screwed the country over.

The protesters are reacting to getting screwed over.

The law doesn't come into it when its institutions like Anglo Irish,Nike, Coca Cola.....they're all pretty **** morally.So go rob as many sneakers and smash as many windows as you want,just don't rob from the corner shop or damage the local park.There is a difference.Having said that, these protests won;t solve anything.

boboirl wrote: »

A lot of people are to arrogant to understand that fundamentally we need a viable banking system....

Of course everyone and me is pissed off we had to bail out the banks...

But ask these protesters what is their alternative?? And you'll be met with blank faces.

Without these banks, we'ld be much worse off than Greece!

100% agree. People don't realise the impact of the collapse of a bank. Yes we're ****ed, a lot of mistakes were made but i have yet to hear one decent suggestion on how to deal with the banks.

KevinVonSpiel wrote: »

I think you'll find it's: But the banks are closed of a Saturday.

\_/ care cup is rather empty

k_mac wrote: »

Actually no you can't

No, you can't, yes I can....starting to sound like a Punch and Judy show now.

k_mac wrote: »

No they have just added more drugs to the list of illegal ones. The basic laws and garda powers are still the same.

I am intimately aquainted with the new legislation, thanks all the same.

k_mac wrote: »

We are consulted at the general election. We vote people in to make decisions for us. It's how our country works and up until now it has worked fine.

Hasn't worked for me buddy.

I want a different system where important decisions are voted on by the Country democratically on a case by case basis. Not this nonsense where a proven shower of corrupt twats are allowed anywhere NEAR decision making that will affect my life.

darkman2 wrote: »

A Sean Fitzpatrick effigy has just been burned outside the bank curiously enough by the scumbags....

http://twitpic.com/1o06oy

At least I think it's an effigy

lol....imagine them running the country.

Imagine Seanie running the country! Oh, wait ...

So we're effigy burners now? fantastic.