Welfare fraudsters

ruthies · 16-05-2010 02:43PM #1

I know we have our own welfare fraudsters and they should imo opinion be cut off when they do it.But in actual fact they are given leave to keep their money and pay a tenner a week or something like that.

Shouldn't it be cut off and tell them get a job and get lost?
What about non nationals?
I had heard of some of the scams been carried out here in Ireland and also in UK but i didn't realise how easy it was:eek:

People are actually selling their pps numbers to non Eu nationals and they are claiming in two different place under two different names at a time and working also.
I saw it on prime time but cant find the link:(

For our own nationals prison time or cut all benefits for non nationals who do that shouldn't they not be deported? And for any crime?And those who actually sell their pps numbers shouldn't they be banned from returning to Ireland and charged?

One woman had defrauded a hundred and thirty thousand from the state:eek:

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 16-05-2010 02:44PM

Could have sworn we only done this last week...

DEATH TO ALL WELFARE RECIPIENTS...*

*I can do this now that I have a job, right?

Crann na Beatha · 16-05-2010 02:45PM

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Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 16-05-2010 02:46PM

Pearl Sticky Flannel wrote: »

DEATH TO ALL WELFARE RECIPIENTS...*

*I can do this now that I have a job, right?

Yes, technically, but if you lsoe your job you have to kill yourself. Tis only fair.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 16-05-2010 02:50PM

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Yes, technically, but if you lsoe your job you have to kill yourself. Tis only fair.

Damn...

segaBOY · 16-05-2010 02:58PM

Obaraten wrote: »

Deyyyyyyyyy tooooook arrrrrrrrr dole:mad:

A fine AH response. :rolleyes:

ruthies · 16-05-2010 02:58PM

Obaraten wrote: »

Deyyyyyyyyy tooooook arrrrrrrrr dole:mad:

Children allowance is also taken

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOdPbPPUKlc&feature=related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KggxvELE42k&feature=related

Its crazy :mad:

Can yous see them links cause i cant?

4zn76tysfajdxp · 16-05-2010 02:59PM

ruthies wrote: »

I know we have our own welfare fraudsters

I call mine "Fluffy."

segaBOY · 16-05-2010 03:01PM

ruthies wrote: »

Children allowance is also taken

Its crazy :mad:

FYP

PCPhoto · 16-05-2010 03:12PM

segaBOY wrote: »

FYP

thats over 11mins of video .... we know they exist but theres nothing being done ...I'm not watching the videos out !!

Ideally anyone with criminal convictions = no dole, no help from the state if you are contributing to its demise

(OK - Criminal Conviction in the last 5yrs - to stop liberal pr1cks and their ..... "but what if they turned their lives around" sh1te)

personally - the entire judicial system needs an overhaul - as does the public sector, HSE, Dail/Oireachtas, taxi regulation, gardai/legal procedures.... we have a choice of change the way the country is run or accept we live in a faulty system and slowly block/stop/punish those using/abusing the loopholes.

Degsy · 16-05-2010 03:18PM

Obaraten wrote: »

Deyyyyyyyyy tooooook arrrrrrrrr dole:mad:

Thanks whore post fail.

theboxer · 16-05-2010 03:22PM

Thanks for the Youtube clip, OP. That Nigerian lady scammed 130,000 large off the Irish taxpayer.:eek:

When asked if she plans to pay the cash back, she says "How can I?".

By getting a f*cking job. Thats how.

Why are these dole cheats still in my country? They should be deported, with haste.

Degsy · 16-05-2010 03:27PM

theboxer wrote: »

Why are these dole cheats still in my country? They should be deported, with haste.

You know how expensive it is to deport these people..why shoudl the taxpayer pay for that too?
Lock them up and make them work the plane fare home..swinging a pickaxe or sewing mailbags..a few years of that and THEN deport them.
These shysters are terrified of doing a days work.

Nodin · 16-05-2010 03:27PM

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Yes, technically, but if you lsoe your job you have to kill yourself. Tis only fair.

Sure that would be thinking things through in a rational manner, like some Scandanavian weirdo. This is Ireland. Get with the program.

Mr Benevolent · 16-05-2010 03:30PM

Don't most employed people think that all dole recipients are fraudsters?

I'm a dole recipient btw.

ruthies · 16-05-2010 03:31PM

Degsy wrote: »

You know how expensive it is to deport these people..why shoudl the taxpayer pay for that too?
Lock them up and make them work the plane fare home..swinging a pickaxe or sewing mailbags..a few years of that and THEN deport them.
These shysters are terrified of doing a days work.

But Degsy you are going to pay for them in prison then also they get money when they get out and we are over flowing and will have no where to put our own criminals and they are free to do it again.Breathe

So in long run deportation costs less;)

segaBOY · 16-05-2010 03:31PM

Confab wrote: »

Don't most employed people think that all dole recipients are fraudsters?

I don't.

theboxer · 16-05-2010 03:31PM

Degsy wrote: »

You know how expensive it is to deport these people.

90 large, I believe. Then you have to bribe the customs officials to take them back.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/ireland/article6396134.ece

ruthies · 16-05-2010 03:32PM

Confab wrote: »

Don't most employed people think that all dole recipients are fraudsters?

NO!!!!!

Degsy · 16-05-2010 03:32PM

ruthies wrote: »

But Degsy you are going to pay for them in prison then also they get money when they get out and we are over flowing and will have no where to put our own criminals and they are free to do it again.Breathe
So in long run deportation costs less;)

Not if you make the bastards work for thier upkeep..for example..break 40 cubic metres of rock per day in return for a bowl of soup.
No work,no soup!
Oh yeah and regular beatings.

theboxer · 16-05-2010 03:33PM

Degsy wrote: »

Oh yeah and regular beatings.

Sweet Jesus.

Degsy · 16-05-2010 03:37PM

theboxer wrote: »

Sweet Jesus.

Now these are regular beatings..not to be associated with righteous beatings when they actually do something wrong.

Thoushaltnot · 16-05-2010 03:40PM

Correct me if I'm wrong but the PPS (RSI) number that you use to make a welfare claim is the same PPS (RSI) number that you use for paying Tax/notifying the Revenue when you get a job, so your PRSI, etc. can be collected and recorded.

The same, unique number.

I mean, how hard can it be to link up the 2 databases (welfare and taxation) and at least catch some of them?

Sure, if you have one number for welfare and you've bought/rented another for work, you'd need another system to catch you out, but c'mon!

Mr Benevolent · 16-05-2010 03:41PM

Thoushaltnot wrote: »

Correct me if I'm wrong but the PPS (RSI) number that you use to make a welfare claim is the same PPS (RSI) number that you use for paying Tax/notifying the Revenue when you get a job, so your PRSI, etc. can be collected and recorded.

The same, unique number.

I mean, how hard can it be to link up the 2 databases (welfare and taxation) and at least catch some of them?

Sure, if you have one number for welfare and you've bought/rented another for work, you'd need another system to catch you out, but c'mon!

Most dole fraudsters are paid under the counter.

theboxer · 16-05-2010 03:43PM

Confab wrote: »

Most dole fraudsters are paid under the counter.

Huh?

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 16-05-2010 03:44PM

Confab wrote: »

Don't most employed people think that all dole recipients are fraudsters?

I'm a dole recipient btw.

Ah, saying most would be a bit much I think, but many in AH do think that

Degsy wrote: »

Not if you make the bastards work for thier upkeep..for example..break 40 cubic metres of rock per day in return for a bowl of soup.
No work,no soup!
Oh yeah and regular beatings.

Only problem with that degsy is the PC brigade getting in the way... Human rights and all that shíte. Surely I have the right to not get screwed over, no?

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 16-05-2010 03:44PM

theboxer wrote: »

Huh?

Cash in hand, like nixers and the like. They don't pay tax and thus are undetectable.

Degsy · 16-05-2010 03:46PM

Pearl Sticky Flannel wrote: »

Only problem with that degsy is the PC brigade getting in the way... Human rights and all that shíte

Bunch of communists..if i had my way they'd be breaking rocks alongside thier beloved welfare cheats.

Thoushaltnot · 16-05-2010 03:47PM

Well, then we'd just catch the ones that are paid legitimately, with that. There were a few of them in those videos.

Remember a few years back, when gardai were stopping motorists, checking for dolesters on their way to work? That system could have freed up a few gardai for catching other criminals.

von Smallhausen · 16-05-2010 03:49PM

Confab wrote: »

Most dole fraudsters are paid under the counter.

theboxer wrote: »

Huh?

They are being paid cash in hand, no tax involved. I would say a lot of employers do it but I wouldn't know the exact number or estimated one for that matter.

theboxer · 16-05-2010 03:49PM

Degsy wrote: »

Bunch of communists..if i had my way they'd be breaking rocks alongside thier beloved welfare cheats.

When are we carrying out an ould kristallnacht on the dole cheats, mein fuhrer?

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