I'm not racist but...

SugarHigh · 14-05-2010 05:50PM

I think Chris Rock might be able to explain why black guys like you so much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MShSaGbl2Y

--LOS-- · 14-05-2010 05:54PM

SoWatchaWant wrote: »

After Hours' Racist Thread of the Week has arrived.

It's hardly racist, you can't deny it is common. If you go to somewhere like the 5 floors of fun in Templebar, it is full of "sleazy foreigners" reeking of desperation, there's a place I can think of in the uk where it's best to avoid the r n b floor less you wish to be surrounded like a pack of wolves, I'm sure it happens lots of places. It's not a case of noticing these guys more than irish guys or so-called good-looking guys, it is just more common.

Bulktohulk · 14-05-2010 05:54PM

dementedsoul wrote: »

FY-fucking-P

Jesus man, it was all in jest, way to go overboard.

AssaultedPeanut · 14-05-2010 05:56PM

Bulktohulk wrote: »

Jesus man, it was all in jest, way to go overboard.

Sorry duuuude, I guess I just don't, like, agree with racism 'n' stuff

dermothickey · 14-05-2010 05:57PM

2 minutes and 30 seconds in very funny piss take of racism in general ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=-ldMY6z7Eno&feature=related

Vomit · 14-05-2010 05:59PM

stupidusername wrote: »

...why is it that when black guys try to flirt with you it just gets creepy?

How many black guys have flirted with you?

sceptre · 14-05-2010 06:07PM

stupidusername wrote: »

I was at the park feeding the pigeons, as I do

Limerick already has too many flying rats. Stop feeding them, it just acts as encouragement.

me_right_one · 14-05-2010 06:34PM

dementedsoul wrote: »

Sorry duuuude, I guess I just don't, like, agree with racism 'n' stuff

Did you eat too much FAIL for breakfast? Cos you're spewing it all over the place!

Thats a hypocritical post. Usually when people dont agree with racism, its because its discriminatory. None of the posts you "fixed" were discriminatory in any way, they were witty and within the context of the thread. Would you be so defensive if the OP said the creepy lad was from Cork, for example? Maybe the "fixed" posts would have read "that was harsh, bai" or some other such relevant humour. To then go and sarcastically mock the manner in which you percieve someone to talk because of the way they post, now thats discrimination.

I aint sayin she a gold-digga, but she aint messin with no broke-gabroke;)

(I suppose thats sexist!!)

AssaultedPeanut · 14-05-2010 06:44PM

me_right_one wrote: »

Thats a bit of a hypocritical post. Usually when people dont agree with racism, its because its discriminatory. None of the posts you "fixed" were discriminatory in any way, they were witty and within the context of the thread. Would you be so defensive if the OP said the creepy lad was from Cork, for example? Maybe the "fixed" posts would have read "that was harsh, bai" or some other such relevant humour. To then go and sarcastically mock the manner in which you percieve someone to talk because of the way they post, now thats discrimination.

Rubbish
There's no comparison.

I'm not overly PC, but saying the word nigger in a round-about way for absolutely no reason, in a thread that happens to be about black people and foreign people IS racist.

And before you say that word wasn't said. Someone saying snigger and someone else asking if the S is silent, is more-or-less saying nigger. And that's not cool

EDIT: I see you edited your original post to include the following load of tripe, before and after the bit already quoted above.

me_right_one wrote: »

Did you eat too much FAIL for breakfast? Cos you're spewing it all over the place!
......
I aint sayin she a gold-digga, but she aint messin with no broke-gabroke;)

(I suppose thats sexist!!)

Spewing fail breakfast all over the place?! Quoting Kanye West for no reason?! Seems like you're a bit of a rasshole

The R is silent

(I suppose that's personal abuse)
(but apparently things aren't offensive if they're written in this manner)

orourkeda · 14-05-2010 06:44PM

stupidusername wrote: »

...why is it that when black guys try to flirt with you it just gets creepy? I was at the park feeding the pigeons, as I do, and this guy sat near enough to me, talking over to me for ages. I couldn't here what he was saying, which I kept saying. He asked what my name was, what age I was, was I from Limerick. Then with a bit more of not being able to here him, and telling him this, I ignored him.

So he came over to me. 'do you have a boyfriend?' Fúcks sake! I said ya. Then he said do you have a boyfriend or are you just afraid of me? I said ya I do. 'Oh I like you anyway' Then I texted someone to ring me. In the meantime he asked could he have my email address, I said no. He asked why, i said because I don't give strangers my personal details. 'But that's not your personal details'

Finally I got a phone call. He didn't move, or go away at all, so eventually I just walked away.

This has happened a bit. I don't have anything against black people, but for some reason any black guys that come on to me are really creepy! Be normal and there's a chance I might talk to you.

He sounds like a helpless romantic to me.

Bulktohulk · 14-05-2010 07:03PM

dementedsoul wrote: »

Rubbish
There's no comparison.

I'm not overly PC, but saying the word nigger in a round-about way for absolutely no reason, in a thread that happens to be about black people and foreign people IS racist.

And before you say that word wasn't said. Someone saying snigger and someone else asking if the S is silent, is more-or-less saying nigger. And that's not cool

It's not racist.... In my opinion it's the way something is said, not what's said that would point to someone being racist or not. Saying something jokingly isn't racist,it's a joke. If they said it with the intention to demean, be cruel etc... then sure, but it was obviously a joke, this is after hours after all.

If there's one thing I hate it's people who are 'PC'. I consider them the most racist people of all. Standing up for other races when they don't need or want the help is patronising and much worse than phrases that are 99% of the time said in jest.

I'm not talking about you in particular, but we all know my comment was not said in a racist way and only someone with a stick up their arse would take offense at it.

A Primal Nut · 14-05-2010 07:30PM

Sorry if this has been said, but generally if a girl finds a guy attractive, for whatever reason, they will think is chat-up attempted is charming. If a girl doesn't find a guy attractive, he is automatically considered a creep when he chats her up. You aren't attracted to black guys which probably explains it.

Then again, I know at least two black guys who grew up in Ireland, would know the story about acting confident and talking to girls, and would always get their fair share. On the other hand I know plenty of guys who are thought of by girls as creepy when they chat them up, even though I know them as the nicest guys you could meet.

It comes down to personal preference. One woman's creep is another woman's charming prince!

AssaultedPeanut · 14-05-2010 07:55PM

Bulktohulk wrote: »

It's not racist.... In my opinion it's the way something is said, not what's said that would point to someone being racist or not. Saying something jokingly isn't racist,it's a joke. If they said it with the intention to demean, be cruel etc... then sure, but it was obviously a joke, this is after hours after all.

If there's one thing I hate it's people who are 'PC'. I consider them the most racist people of all. Standing up for other races when they don't need or want the help is patronising and much worse than phrases that are 99% of the time said in jest.

I'm not talking about you in particular, but we all know my comment was not said in a racist way and only someone with a stick up their arse would take offense at it.

Nope, no stick up the arse. I just think the comment wasn't funny and in my opinion, quite racist considering the nature of the thread.
Saying "this is after hours" doesn't make it any less so. Again, this is my opinion, since you're just going by yours....

The_Minister · 14-05-2010 08:07PM

Bulktohulk wrote: »

I'm not talking about you in particular, but we all know my comment was not said in a racist way and only someone with a stick up their arse would take offense at it.

Said to someone who called them on their post being offensive.

Did you type that with a straight face?

Sonnenblumen · 14-05-2010 08:11PM

Light the crosses!

The_Minister · 14-05-2010 08:13PM

On topic:
I know a Canadian woman living in Ireland who is having huge trouble getting laid - she can't figure out Irish guys because they are so reticiant - no-one dates here, so she can't figure out how to get into relationships (she refuses to do one-night stands).

biko · 14-05-2010 08:16PM

SoWatchaWant wrote: »

After Hours' Racist Thread of the Week has arrived.

I don't agree, hence no lock yet. Just because a person is black/ brown/ foreign doesn't mean the criticising him/her is a automatically racist.
In my opinion.
If you feel that a certain post is racist or crossing some line then please report it with an explanation and one of the forum mods will get right on it.
Cheers.

I see how "why is it that when black guys try to flirt with you it just gets creepy" can be seen as racist because it points to black guys in general, but then the OP talk about a single individual.
This seems to me to go along with most rants of "all women are crazy, my girlfriend did something stupid".
Hope my point here comes across.

Carl Sagan · 14-05-2010 08:18PM

It'd be great if more people would just randomly talk to strangers.

Michellenman · 14-05-2010 08:19PM

I actually thought this was going to be a thread on how people always say 'I'm not racist but..' before going on to say something that is in fact racist.

Guess I was right.. .kinda.

kylith · 14-05-2010 08:29PM

A Primal Nut wrote: »

Sorry if this has been said, but generally if a girl finds a guy attractive, for whatever reason, they will think is chat-up attempted is charming. If a girl doesn't find a guy attractive, he is automatically considered a creep when he chats her up.

I disagree. To come up and say hi and start a conversation is perfectly fine. To try to continue a chatting up when the girl is only giving one word answers, looks uncomfortable in the situation, and is giving absolutely no indication that she's interested in being chatted up is creepy.

annie87 · 14-05-2010 08:48PM

I lived in France for a year, and all the men there were a lot more forward than Irish guys, like if they were talking to you they'd stand really close to you put their hand on your leg (I hate my personal space being invaded.) Often got asked/told "So, you are coming home with me tonight, yes?" resulting in me walking away very quickly.

bonerm · 14-05-2010 08:51PM

Sonnenblumen wrote: »

Light the crosses!

Not crosses. Lower case 't's as in "time to leave, richer!".

Bulktohulk · 14-05-2010 09:01PM

The_Minister wrote: »

Said to someone who called them on their post being offensive.

Did you type that with a straight face?

No.

me_right_one · 14-05-2010 09:33PM

dementedsoul wrote: »

Spewing fail breakfast all over the place?! Quoting Kanye West for no reason?!

I'm quoting Kanye West cos I love that song.

dementedsoul wrote: »

Seems like you're a bit of a rasshole

The R is silent

(I suppose that's personal abuse)
(but apparently things aren't offensive if they're written in this manner)

Well, yes. It is. You see, nobody actually called anybody anything until you did just there. Its not the silent letter or the brackets that determine if something is offensive or not, its the tone. If its in jest, then its obviously not intended to be offensive. Your tone is sarcastic, bitter, and aggressive. You are obviously trying to cause offence, probably because you took offence at one of my posts, but I'm not offended, because you are so far wide of the mark calling any of this thread racist.

The OP clearly stated at the outset that she is not racist. She is simply discussing a bad experience she had with someone, who just happened to be black. Several other posters had similar experiences, and it was concurred that culture, not race, was where the problem lay. In the meantime, you went on a crusade to blacken anyone who did not see this thread as being racist. Your logic is akin to calling someone a homophobe for being straight. You undermined your credibility because of your misunderstanding, and you let yourself down personally by becoming petty and immature.

AssaultedPeanut · 14-05-2010 09:41PM

me_right_one wrote: »

I'm quoting Kanye West cos I love that song.

Well, yes. It is. You see, nobody actually called anybody anything until you did just there. Its not the silent letter or the brackets that determine if something is offensive or not, its the tone. If its in jest, then its obviously not intended to be offensive. Your tone is sarcastic, bitter, and aggressive. You are obviously trying to cause offence, probably because you took offence at one of my posts, but I'm not offended, because you are so far wide of the mark calling any of this thread racist.

The OP clearly stated at the outset that she is not racist. She is simply discussing a bad experience she had with someone, who just happened to be black. Several other posters had similar experiences, and it was concurred that culture, not race, was where the problem lay. In the meantime, you went on a crusade to blacken anyone who did not see this thread as being racist. Your logic is akin to calling someone a homophobe for being straight. You undermined your credibility because of your misunderstanding, and you let yourself down personally by becoming petty and immature.

Never said the thread was racist, so all that bit emboldened = bullshit. Do not put words in my mouth, cheers.

I simply think the (s)nigger comment was offensive and uncalled for. But you're saying it was in jest, so no harm done right?!

My comment was also in jest

me_right_one · 14-05-2010 09:54PM

dementedsoul wrote: »

Never said the thread was racist, so all that bit emboldened = bullshit. Do not put words in my mouth, cheers.

I simply think the (s)nigger comment was offensive and uncalled for. But you're saying it was in jest, so no harm done right?!

My comment was also in jest

Well none of your posts have a comedic tone. You consistently rubbished anyone who disagreed with you, as above. But if your comment to me really was in jest, then I take back my implication like a man, that you are behaving immaturely and petty.

AssaultedPeanut · 14-05-2010 10:05PM

me_right_one wrote: »

Well none of your posts have a comedic tone. You consistently rubbished anyone who disagreed with you, as above. But if your comment to me really was in jest, then I take back my implication like a man, that you are behaving immaturely and petty.

The 'rasshole' comment was meant in jest, yes. Tone can't really be read from text very well, unless it's really obvious. Consistently rubbished anyone who disagreed? You mean you and the ONE other poster defending the remark.

There is nothing immature or petty about me not liking someone saying something I find offensive. There is, however, plenty immature and petty about this sort of thing...

Did you eat too much FAIL for breakfast? Cos you're spewing it all over the place!
......
I aint sayin she a gold-digga, but she aint messin with no broke-gabroke

(I suppose thats sexist!!)

And quite unfair to say all that stuff about blackening peoples names in the thread etc, in order to get a backing for yourself I presume.

I, in fact, agree somewhat with the OP about the creepiness of some foreign guys, in my experience african guys are very much as she described.

So how about you take back your previous comment completely?

pebbles21 · 14-05-2010 10:05PM

Michellenman wrote: »

I actually thought this was going to be a thread on how people always say 'I'm not racist but..' before going on to say something that is in fact racist.

Guess I was right.. .kinda.

OK.........Im not racist but.....if you rearrange the letters in Ginger you get nigge....:eek:

radha · 14-05-2010 10:07PM

ToniTuddle wrote: »

Can't stand the way dudes from India stare at you.
Only ever experienced in New Zealand and they just look at you like they are mentally raping you in their brains.

Freaks me out. As a result I don't like them.

When you come from a population of 1 billion, someone of a different skin colour always stands out and the staring has just become engrained, even when outside of India. Half the time they don't even realise they're doing it. The women also stare.

So maybe try understanding someone's perspective before making such blatant statements.

Pyr0 · 14-05-2010 10:13PM

The_Minister wrote: »

On topic:
I know a Canadian woman living in Ireland who is having huge trouble getting laid - she can't figure out Irish guys because they are so reticiant - no-one dates here, so she can't figure out how to get into relationships (she refuses to do one-night stands).

Giz her number :pac:

I've heard similar stories from friends of mine OP, foreign guys seems to appear the most creepy when trying to hit on them. I think it's a cultural thing really.

I'm not racist but...

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