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Custom .223 Re-Barrel

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  • #32
    Tackleberrywho
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    clivej wrote: »
    Tackleberrywho wrote: »

    I know but at 300m and 1/2" the fox won't know the difference of what hit him will it.

    You need to think about what your gona use it for Hunting or Target. Then you will be able to cut your cloth better.

    :eek::eek: COS you can't cut it both ways. :eek::eek:

    I want a really accurate hunter, so I hope that this is the best compromise for me (as I can hold on to my communion money) !
    I can handle the weight in the field if I can pop bunnies out to 600. which is my mission, If I can consistently hit bunnies at 400 or so I'll be happy though.

    I'm going to use it for both, more hunting than target but both.
    it will mean I won't be eating Caviar for a week or so :eek:

    I would have done it years ago had I know a facility was so close to me. I'm just making up for lost time!

    I bought more yokes down the years and lost out big time on a trade.
    I'll finally have what I want.


  • #33
    Tackleberrywho
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    The below I got from truflite on my question on twist rate and barrel length. So should i go 1/7 1/8 1/9 1/10

    Regards
    Confused TBW

    We have just released our latest new devaloped barrel that would suit your needs, a 1-10" .224 barrel. This would suit up to 65 grain projectiles. This will not suit 600 yards though, for this you will need the 75-80 grain projectiles which brings you to the 1-7, and 1-8" barrels. So basically you can't have it both ways, you need to decide which is best for you.

    Barrel length is determined by what sort of rifle you want it to be...... if you only intend to shoot off a bipod, then a longer barrel with a heavy contour is ok, but if you want a walk-around rifle with a suppressor, then a 20-22" barrel might be an advantage.

    Best Regards
    Grant lovelock.

    True-Flite NZ Ltd
    370 Lytton Road
    P O Box 2080
    Gisborne
    New Zealand
    Ph 06 868 3450
    fax 06 868 7945


  • #34
    tomcat220t
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    I agree ,no such thing as too accurate a rifle !What weight do you think your custom rifle will end up ?


  • #35
    Tackleberrywho
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    tomcat220t wrote: »
    I agree ,no such thing as too accurate a rifle !What weight do you think your custom rifle will end up ?

    Well it's 10kg at the mo so perhaps 11.5~ Not sure yet. i don't know the weight of my current barrel.

    It is my believe that Hunting rifles should be as accurate as possible to help make cleaner kills, as accurate as a target rifle to a point.

    Why should we settle for less than 1 hole groups at 100?


  • #36
    tomcat220t
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    Yea ,takes a good rifle to shoot 1 hole groups with factory ammo at 100 yards . You will find that a custom rifle brings more to the table than just good groups ;).


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  • #37
    Tackleberrywho
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    tomcat220t wrote: »
    Yea ,takes a good rifle to shoot 1 hole groups with factory ammo at 100 yards . You will find that a custom rifle brings more to the table than just good groups ;).

    I hope so!
    I'd like bunnies greys and madraí Rua at 400+


  • #38
    tomcat220t
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    Well, get yourself a .204 custom barrel :p.Only messing;).I have had some 1" groups at 450 yards with mine .Had it out some week ago and from a cold bore shot 3 rabbits at 448 yards with 3 shots .This is with factory ammo !


  • #39
    Tackleberrywho
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    tomcat220t wrote: »
    Well, get yourself a .204 custom barrel :p.Only messing;).I have had some 1" groups at 450 yards with mine .Had it out some week ago and from a cold bore shot 3 rabbits at 448 yards with 3 shots .This is with factory ammo !

    Thats what I am after.

    TBH I find with my rifle only difference in shots is when bore gets hot. As I said previously I use moly so cleaning with copper solvent is not required and the solvent used residue I believe fecks up the first shot, not the heat of the bore, But I could get attacked for making such a sacrilegious statement ;)


  • #40
    bunny shooter
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    Tac

    Go 204...................No ****e ;)


  • #41
    Tackleberrywho
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    bunny shooter wrote: »
    Tac

    Go 204...................No ****e ;)

    No Bunny, I'll use my current rifle, I'm customising to my pocket.
    I have a lot on at the mo so i have not the time to go looking for more firearms, in 13 Months time I will have much more free time to dedicate to expanding my collection.

    i always wanted a .223 and a .308 and a glock. i know have them. i still want an AR platform, a S&W 686
    A Blaser for Continent shooting boar and a nice trap gun But i'll get them one at a time!

    2010 I'll do my .223
    next year, maybe my .308
    Year after who knows!
    :cool:


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  • #42
    tomcat220t
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    Tackleberrywho wrote: »
    Thats what I am after.

    TBH I find with my rifle only difference in shots is when bore gets hot. As I said previously I use moly so cleaning with copper solvent is not required and the solvent used residue I believe fecks up the first shot, not the heat of the bore, But I could get attacked for making such a sacrilegious statement ;)
    Your mad on moly!Hunting is all about your first cold bore shot !I dont use moly and find my first cold shot bang on every time .Its simply down to barrel quality and build ,imo.


  • #43
    Tackleberrywho
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    tomcat220t wrote: »
    Your mad on moly!Hunting is all about your first cold bore shot !I dont use moly and find my first cold shot bang on every time .Its simply down to barrel quality and build ,imo.

    What can I say, i prefer using lube on my girl than going without ;)


  • #44
    bunny shooter
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    Tackleberrywho wrote: »
    No Bunny, I'll use my current rifle, I'm customising to my pocket.
    I have a lot on at the mo so i have not the time to go looking for more firearms, in 13 Months time I will have much more free time to dedicate to expanding my collection.

    i always wanted a .223 and a .308 and a glock. i know have them. i still want an AR platform, a S&W 686
    A Blaser for Continent shooting boar and a nice trap gun But i'll get them one at a time!

    2010 I'll do my .223
    next year, maybe my .308
    Year after who knows!
    :cool:

    You can use your current rifle :eek:

    204 & 223 would be same bolt as the rear of the case is the same it's the chamber and bore that differ both of which are in the barrel ;) Lot of barrel makers making 204 too :)


  • #45
    Tackleberrywho
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    bunny shooter wrote: »
    You can use your current rifle :eek:

    204 & 223 would be same bolt as the rear of the case is the same it's the chamber and bore that differ both of which are in the barrel ;)

    But a different licence!
    I'd have to do more form filling and I'm sick filling out forms!
    And as I said i want a .223 because we could not have them for so long, same with my .308. I will extend my collection to 7 i think in the next 5 years.

    I have too much on at the moment, I have my plan and I will stick to it!


  • #46
    bunny shooter
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    Tackleberrywho wrote: »
    But a different licence!

    True :rolleyes:
    Tackleberrywho wrote: »
    I'd have to do more form filling and I'm sick filling out forms!

    I'm with you there ;)
    Tackleberrywho wrote: »
    ...........I will extend my collection to 7 i think in the next 5 years.

    :eek: Good luck ;) I have 4 and will be applying for no. 5 soon and I know I'll have a fight on my hands :mad:


  • #47
    Tackleberrywho
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    bunny shooter wrote: »
    True :rolleyes:



    I'm with you there ;)



    :eek: Good luck ;) I have 4 and will be applying for no. 5 soon and I know I'll have a fight on my hands :mad:

    Locate your CS find his watering hole and buy him a pint, it's the Irish way ;)

    Not saying i did that but I always try and make the complicated simple.
    Talk to the man in simple terms and it goes a long way.

    I have to say my CS is a decent skin when I hear of the hassle the Limerick lads had, but that is another thread.

    In Summation Jury is still out on 1 in 7/8/9 or 10 twist!
    If I could shorten my barrel and still increase accuracy great. It is long enough with the mod on, annoying negotiating ditches and hedges
    But I'd still be happy with a 26 inch, my 20 inch .308 seems so small in comparison.


  • #48
    Tackleberrywho
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    customrifle wrote: »
    Hi Tackleberry, a 1/9 twist would let you shoot from the low 50gr to the high 60 grainers in the 223 I had a tikka tactical in 223 with this twist and it loved the 53 and 55 gr hornadys and the 64gr federals. I take it that Figgy will be doin the work for you he s done couple rifles for me and they unreal accurate.The 22/250 he did will do consistant sub half inch groups at 300 yards. Give me shout if you fancy shot out of them i do be back in athlone good bit herself is in collage there.

    Thanks for that. I think I might go with a 1/9. Although Figgy initially mentioned a 1/14 twist, which is supposed to be the bees knees with the lighter loads.

    I'm caught in a battle of sub half inch at 300 or a very accurate 300+ barrel.
    there seems to be no happy medium as per many manufacturers I have spoken too via e-mail.

    To be able to consistently hit bunnies head shots I suppose I could live with that!:D:D

    I'd like to stay using Hornady Moly 55 Grain as I find them an amazing round.

    Then again the barrel will be a virgin barrel so she will take what ever I decide to give her. I will just have to get used to clicking in my scope. But the 2MOA derivations in the scope will help too.


  • #49
    tomcat220t
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    1/14 twist .....40 gr rounds :eek:.Very low B/C !Stick to the best 55gr round and your all the way out to 500 yards on rabbits:D


  • #50
    Tackleberrywho
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    tomcat220t wrote: »
    1/14 twist .....40 gr rounds :eek:.Very low B/C !Stick to the best 55gr round and your all the way out to 500 yards on rabbits:D

    It's a hard decision for me to make, Ammo availability, hold over and BC.

    There is only so much one can get from a book. Thats why I would love to hear of someone who has a .223 Custom barrel and who shoots Bunnies out to 500.

    We seem to be a rare species varminters :eek:
    Custom varminters seem rarer !:D


  • #51
    tomcat220t
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    Tackleberrywho wrote: »
    It's a hard decision for me to make, Ammo availability, hold over and BC.

    There is only so much one can get from a book. Thats why I would love to hear of someone who has a .223 Custom barrel and who shoots Bunnies out to 500.

    We seem to be a rare species varminters :eek:
    Custom varminters seem rarer !:D
    What your looking for is a flat hard hitting varmint round that bucks the wind very well out to 500 yards ,yea?


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  • #52
    Tackleberrywho
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    tomcat220t wrote: »
    What your looking for is a flat hard hitting varmint round that bucks the wind very well out to 500 yards ,yea?

    in .223 before you say .204!:D:D


  • #53
    tomcat220t
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    Tackleberrywho wrote: »
    in .223 before you say .204!:D:D
    39 gr SBK ....;).Also available in .204:D..You know you should :p


  • #54
    Tackleberrywho
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    tomcat220t wrote: »
    39 gr SBK ....;).Also available in .204:D..You know you should :p

    N'ah I want a .223 coz it's a .223

    Waited years to get one; same with .308

    .270 WSM some day may be added for targets.
    Ans a .30/06 for boar or Bear :D:D

    For now a hybrid custom/varmint. We will invent a new class of rifle under 12 kg scoped and can be fired from the shoulder if needed. And can take head shot bunnies out to 500 but has to be .224 cal or under!


  • #55
    dwighet
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    Tackleberrywho wrote: »
    N'ah I want a .223 coz it's a .223

    Waited years to get one; same with .308

    .270 WSM some day may be added for targets.
    Ans a .30/06 for boar or Bear :D:D

    For now a hybrid custom/varmint. We will invent a new class of rifle under 12 kg scoped and can be fired from the shoulder if needed. And can take head shot bunnies out to 500 but has to be .224 cal or under!

    12 kg...26.4 pound
    I think you mean 5.45kg....12 pound;)


  • #56
    Tackleberrywho
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    dwighet wrote: »
    12 kg...26.4 pound
    I think you mean 5.45kg....12 pound;)

    Yes you are right, us Irish are distrouted by the metric system
    I never learned Imperial going to school.

    Yet growing up we used feet and inches and we weighed our self in stone, and everything was miles.:D:D

    My rifle currently is 6.35kg 14lb's~ with Bipod, scope and surpressor.
    with the addition of a new barrel and rebedding that may increase by a kg or so to 7.5kg 16.5lbs~ This time I used a convertor to make sure :D:D
    As I had previously mentioned I do not know weight of current barrel.

    So new class would be under 9.07185kg 20lbs :p

    Does that sound fair?
    And we would compete out to 500! not further. five stages 1-500:D
    rear rest had to be part of rifle so it could be used easily in field also;) Front had to be bipod. Varmint or V-Class


  • #57
    dwighet
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    Tackleberrywho wrote: »
    Yes you are right, us Irish are distrouted by the metric system
    I never learned Imperial going to school.

    Yet growing up we used feet and inches and we weighed our self in stone, and everything was miles.:D:D

    My rifle currently is 6.35kg 14lb's~ with Bipod, scope and surpressor.
    with the addition of a new barrel and rebedding that may increase by a kg or so to 7.5kg 16.5lbs~ This time I used a convertor to make sure :D:D
    As I had previously mentioned I do not know weight of current barrel.

    So new class would be under 9.07185kg 20lbs :p

    Does that sound fair?
    And we would compete out to 500! not further. five stages 1-500:D
    rear rest had to be part of rifle so it could be used easily in field also;) Front had to be bipod. Varmint or V-Class

    I hear ya.....:D
    You have a bit of land....
    If you build it they will come..
    Just like the movie "field of dreams"


  • #58
    tomcat220t
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    Tackleberrywho wrote: »
    Yes you are right, us Irish are distrouted by the metric system
    I never learned Imperial going to school.

    Yet growing up we used feet and inches and we weighed our self in stone, and everything was miles.:D:D

    My rifle currently is 6.35kg 14lb's~ with Bipod, scope and surpressor.
    with the addition of a new barrel and rebedding that may increase by a kg or so to 7.5kg 16.5lbs~ This time I used a convertor to make sure :D:D
    As I had previously mentioned I do not know weight of current barrel.

    So new class would be under 9.07185kg 20lbs :p

    Does that sound fair?
    And we would compete out to 500! not further. five stages 1-500:D
    rear rest had to be part of rifle so it could be used easily in field also;) Front had to be bipod. Varmint or V-Class
    What would be max weight of ammo ?20LBS rifles are hardly field weight rifles:eek:.


  • #59
    Tackleberrywho
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    dwighet wrote: »
    I hear ya.....:D
    You have a bit of land....
    If you build it they will come..
    Just like the movie "field of dreams"

    I have a bit of land and between cousins friends and relatives I have a lot of land for varminting.

    A R-15 would love it!


  • #60
    Tackleberrywho
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    tomcat220t wrote: »
    What would be max weight of ammo ?20LBS rifles are hardly field weight rifles:eek:.

    70Grain max 55grian prefered
    In comps can one use 2 types of ammo?


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  • #61
    tomcat220t
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    Tackleberrywho wrote: »
    70Grain max 55grian prefered
    In comps can one use 2 types of ammo?
    .220 swifts would end up slapping the ass off the .223 if were to let the ammo weight up to 70gr;).


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