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<MEGA MERGE> General Head Shop discussion thread. Read posts # 1 & 1014

  • 11-05-2010 12:49PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭skelliser


    Mod edit: Read here before you post.
    Health Minister Mary Harney is to bring an Order to Government today banning a number of substances available in head shops with immediate effect.

    It follows approval for the measure from the European Commission yesterday.

    The substances will be banned under the Misuse of Drugs Act and the Order is expected to be signed later today.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0511/headshops.html

    The substances that will be banned:
    The list of the substances by common name is:

    synthetic cannabinoids (contained in SPICE products)

    benzylpiperazine (BZP) and piperazine derivatives

    mephedrone, methylone methedrone, butylone, flephedrone, and MDPV

    GBL and 1,4 BD


    GBL and 1,4BD are legitimately used in a number of industries including in
    chemicals and pharmaceuticals. It will now be an offence to import,
    export, produce, supply or possess these substances where they are to be
    used for the purpose of human ingestion (other than as a flavouring in
    food).

    Penalties:
    “Their possession and supply are now illegal and subject to criminal
    sanction of:
    up to 7 years imprisonment and/or a fine for unlawful possession,
    and,
    on indictment, up to a maximum period of life imprisonment for
    unlawful supply.

    “This means that the reckless, irresponsible people who have sold and
    promoted them must safely dispose of every product containing even one of
    the substances immediately. Otherwise they could face criminal
    prosecution. They cannot sell, supply, possess or distribute this stock,
    with effect from the start of today, 11th May.

    The above is a press release.

    What would you do? 216 votes

    Complete prohibition of all recreational drugs, including alcohol
    0% 0 votes
    Complete prohibition of all recreational drugs, but allow the sale of alcohol
    4% 10 votes
    Prohibition of harmful drugs, but tax and legistlate the sale of less harmful recreational drugs
    15% 33 votes
    Enforce legislation, taxation and licensing laws to legally sell all recreational drugs
    80% 173 votes


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 229 ✭✭andy winter




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,456 ✭✭✭✭ibarelycare


    I presume the producers can now just start making new products with substances that are still legal?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,070 ✭✭✭Placebo


    rather this than teenagers off their face on mephedrone


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 14,324 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Master


    Multiple threads merged


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,456 ✭✭✭✭ibarelycare


    Placebo wrote: »
    rather this than teenagers off their face on mephedrone


    Rather teenagers off their heads on mephedrone than the lining of drugdealers' pockets.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,594 ✭✭✭bonerm


    She should announce an immediate criminal ban on pie-shop products. I mean *look* at her! She's, ya know, fat and stuff.

    (I just thought I'd get it out of the way)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭skelliser


    .......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    About time she done something right....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    skelliser wrote: »

    Health Minister Mary Harney is to bring an Order to Government today banning a number of substances available in head shops with immediate effect.

    Probably the ones that are appetite suppressants.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    'Did' Joey, not done.

    About time she has done something ....


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,572 ✭✭✭msg11


    Placebo wrote: »
    rather this than teenagers off their face on mephedrone

    Where cause I never seen anyone off there face? And how can you prove they were not under another drug?

    Drink, Weed, Coke.

    I rather, people not getting ****ing shot on the streets or gangsters lining there pockets.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,070 ✭✭✭Placebo


    Rather teenagers off their heads on mephedrone than the lining of drugdealers' pockets.

    have you ever been offered cocaine ? i certainly have not. With MDMA out of the question and ecstacy having a terrible hangover name for itself, its better this way.
    msg11 wrote: »
    Where cause I never seen anyone off there face? And how can you prove they were not under another drug?

    Drink, Weed, Coke.

    I rather, people not getting ****ing shot on the streets or gangsters lining there pockets.


    alot of people i know do it. And the intake and usage sky rocketed as they would party through out the night and wait for head shops to open at 10 and go buy some more. Same cannot be said for illegal drugs, drug dealers dont hang around the 'corners' with shoes hangin from telephone wires.

    get out more.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 121 ✭✭AKA pat sheen


    Synthetic cannabinoids? Wtf?? Is that reporter speak or are they honestly signing off a law with that definition?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,456 ✭✭✭✭ibarelycare


    Placebo wrote: »
    have you ever been offered cocaine ? i certainly have not. With MDMA out of the question and ecstacy having a terrible hangover name for itself, its better this way.


    Eh, yes :confused: What's your point?

    Illegal drugs are practically as easy to buy as legal drugs. The government are losing out on vital tax money by criminalizing these "legal highs" and are also encouraging criminal activity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭Sanjuro


    Brilliant. The drug dealers will be rejoycing. Rather than try and approach the problem rationally, they just slap a ban on everything, forcing those who really want it to go seek drugs from criminals. Forward thinking by the government, yet again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,070 ✭✭✭Placebo


    Eh, yes :confused: What's your point?

    Illegal drugs are practically as easy to buy as legal drugs. The government are losing out on vital tax money by criminalizing these "legal highs" and are also encouraging criminal activity.

    demographically, that statement is questionable.
    If you have contacts you can get illegal substances, other wise legal drugs are an easy outlet. As described in my previous post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭punchdrunk


    agreed lets just tax the ****ers to death!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    'Did' Joey, not done.

    About time she has done something ....

    :P

    You got the pint anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭PK2008


    Bubble baths will never be the same


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,603 ✭✭✭Funkfield


    I presume the producers can now just start making new products with substances that are still legal?

    Hopefully


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,311 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    BZP was already banned at EU level last year, wasn't it?

    Cacti seem to have escaped the net - cue the next wave of hysteria.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    I presume the producers can now just start making new products with substances that are still legal?
    Its exactly what they will do and already has been reported to be happening.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    Placebo wrote: »
    With MDMA out of the question and ecstacy having a terrible hangover name for itself, its better this way.

    :confused: Same drug, you ought to try doing a bit more research.

    Minister Harney, Irish liberalism at its finest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Another reason to be thankful I got the **** out.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,378 ✭✭✭Cherrycola


    Placebo wrote: »
    demographically, that statement is questionable.
    If you have contacts you can get illegal substances, other wise legal drugs are an easy outlet. As described in my previous post.


    I agree completely. Headshops were targeting kids who would probably not seek out illegal drugs anyway, and probably still wont if these legal highs are banned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,603 ✭✭✭Funkfield


    Banning some of the best source of revenue the country has seen in years......

    ...a genius stroke! Masterful!

    Oh Harney, is there anything you can't do?!?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 425 ✭✭barrackali


    Delighted to hear of this news, I can't believe I'm actually with a measure taken by Mary Harney.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,163 ✭✭✭✭danniemcq


    so let me get this straight i could rape my daughters, stab someone be in a criminal gang get arrested and be out in a couple years max but if i smoke anything from this banlist i can get 7 years and the guys in the shop can get life?


    yeah that makes sense to me too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,163 ✭✭✭✭danniemcq


    Funkfield wrote: »
    Banning some of the best source of revenue the country has seen in years......

    ...a genius stroke! Masterful!

    Oh Harney, is there anything you can't do?!?!

    look at her toes without using a mirror?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 121 ✭✭AKA pat sheen


    skelliser, can you link to that press release directly?


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