Iceland has banned strip clubs.

Galvasean wrote: »

Heck if I could make that kind of money for taking off my clothes I would.

PM Sent.

I don't thing there's anything 'feminist' about forbidding women from working in a particular profession and making oppressive laws under the guise of 'protecting' them.

It's like the complete opposite of the burka ban but at the same time very similar.

Tbh, striping and prostitution should both be legal and heaviely regulated. If a woman wants to take off her cloths for money, its her choice, just as if she wanted to sell sex for money.. it's her choice. And same for men.

End of the day as long as they are not doing anything that is medically unsound... crack on.. my simple view.

Kolbrún Halldórsdóttir, the politician who first proposed the ban, firmly told the national press on Wednesday: "It is not acceptable that women or people in general are a product to be sold."

This never made sense to me. When you hire a builder, aren't you essentially renting out his muscles for the day? Stripping and prostitution are services, and I don't think they "sell their bodies" any more than binmen or miners.

According to Icelandic police, 100 foreign women travel to the country annually to work in strip clubs. It is unclear whether the women are trafficked, but feminists say it is telling that as the stripping industry has grown, the number of Icelandic women wishing to work in it has not.

So, there's absolutely no proof of slavery, therefore there must be slavery.

I have visited a strip club in Reykjavik and observed the women. None of them looked happy in their work.

I visited a Tesco in Clane and observed that none of the workers were happy their either. And they got €70 a day rather than €70 an hour.

Kolbrún Halldórsdóttir, the politician who first proposed the ban, firmly told the national press on Wednesday: "It is not acceptable that women or people in general are a product to be sold."

I'm presuming they've banned modelling also :rolleyes:

The_Minister wrote: »

Feminist writer in favour.
Feminist writer against.
http://icelandreview.com/icelandreview/daily_news/?cat_id=16567&ew_0_a_id=359882

What do the ladies here think? (This could be more AH, but I think it's better suited here).

First, a disclaimer: I've never been to a lapdance club. Not out of any great moral objection, I just have better ways to spend €50. Were one of my friends to get married, and his party take place in a stripclub, I would probably go (but I refuse to shell out money to see some nipple - I have my dignity:P)

However, I would agree with the second article more than the first; I think strip clubs should be legal (but regulated). I think it's very paternalistic* of the government to ban women from stripping because they must be exploited if they do so, even if they will openly say that they aren't.
If men (stupid, stupid men), are willing to pay attractive women more money than they would get working elsewhere, in order for them to 'be sexy' at them, then, although it can't be denied that they are being exploited, they should be allowed to do so - if that's what they want to spend their wages on, so be it.

*Yes, I'm using that word on purpose.

got too hot in iceland
that is why the volcano erupted

I will not post another warning, next off topic post will get ya banned.

goose2005 wrote: »

This never made sense to me. When you hire a builder, aren't you essentially renting out his muscles for the day? Stripping and prostitution are services, and I don't think they "sell their bodies" any more than binmen or miners.

I would've agreed at one stage! My logical side speaking louder than my emotional side!

What changed my mind for me however was reading a thread on going to the gym (can't remember where I read it). Female posters were saying how uncomfortable they felt if they looked sweaty and unpresentable, whereas the males posters didn't mind how they themselves looked. What stood out for me was the male poster who said 'But if you look sweaty and red, it reminds men of how you look when you have sex'. It got lots of thanks from male posters (not that there's anything wrong with that, men are human too : P)

And it got me thinking: does the act of sex make women feel vulnerable? Is this why some women want separate gyms? Is this why some women feel uncomfortable when they see naked pictures of women in papers/ or naked women selling themselves in strip clubs? A man using his muscles to build a house is in no way vulnerable, he probably feels quite strong and in control.

I don't know many people who like to feel vulnerable, or feel that they're not in control of a situation. That post in the gym thread struck a chord with me, maybe it strikes a chord for other women too....I don't know.

donegalfella wrote: »

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Yes people have the right to do what they want. I'm not arguing against that.

It just seems to me that too often women get hostile treatment if they dare open their mouths about something that makes them feel uncomfortable. I can personally see why some women find stripping/posters of naked women etc off putting. I don't think it's a case of 'something else to complain about', I think it's a deep seated response to feeling vulnerable. It can't be dismissed with cries of 'Well there are pictures of naked men everywhere' because I don't believe that men feel vulnerable about sex to the same extent as women do. I realised I felt like this when I read the gym thread I talked about in my last post.

Very serious on a Friday afternoon eh! And I should be studying