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Slain Gangster Hailed as "Role Model"

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    They are his friends and family, they probably knew a completely different side of him.

    I understand that viewpoint whenever i come across someone i consider to be a gobshíte... I know somewhere down the line there is someone he isn't a prick to.

    But when you consider someone as a role model and wish to be the sort of person they are, you are not taking into account the view you had, but the view of how everyone would recognise him... and this guy was a drug dealing scumbag FFS....

    Anyhow... I'm a leave it there... it was his funeral for his family and friends to attend to... they can think of him and talk of him how ever they bleeding like...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭aDeener


    They are his friends and family, they probably knew a completely different side of him.

    Very few people are thoroughly unpleasant in every way, and those that are don't get to the top of anything, because everyone looks forward to pulling them down.

    Most likely, if he did rise to the top, it was in part because he had friends who genuinely liked him and could be counted on.

    Just because someone may have killed people, and may be a drug dealer, doesn't mean that they aren't a likable guy.


    Just look at George Bush - horrible president, but a great man to have a drink with by all accounts.

    i've read it all now :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭aDeener


    Little D wrote: »
    He was a total scum bag yes however if he was my brother or my brother did the things he did i would still love him? Certain types of love are unconditional i no i would love any member of my family no matter what they had done

    bollocks

    even if a member raped you, you would still love them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,605 ✭✭✭Fizman


    Well if he be rollin', I be hatin'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭Nijmegen


    Anyone who thinks he deserves any compassion ought to try and really vividly imagine themselves being an innocent person caught up in the middle of all this crap, about to be murdered by one of these scumbags.

    I mean it. Vividly imagine how you would feel knowing some malicious person was about to take your entire life away from you.

    Imagine everything you're about to lose. Your future. Your family. Everything.

    Do it vividly, please, and now tell me he deserves any sympathy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 872 ✭✭✭Sofa King Great


    The Indo wrote:
    "Eamonn had a heart of gold."

    Good thing they shot him in the head


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 466 ✭✭fizzynicenice


    Well it was his funeral. Did yous expect him to be slated and called an evil, murdering basterd during the eulogy read by his own brother??

    I'm not defending him or his actions, but it seems like AH is becoming more like the Joe Duffy show everyday. Everyone scrambling to get to the highest of the high ground.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 420 ✭✭Diageio_Man


    i doubt the worms in the ground will even go near him he was so rotton to the core. Anyone who kills for profit is an utter scumbag in my eye's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,723 ✭✭✭Cheap Thrills!


    Little D wrote: »
    He was a total scum bag yes however if he was my brother or my brother did the things he did i would still love him? Certain types of love are unconditional i no i would love any member of my family no matter what they had done

    I wouldn't. All my love is conditional.

    There are certain crimes that are unforgiveable. Family or not.

    I can never understand these soft types who protect and stand by evil family members. Its weak.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 426 ✭✭Kepti


    i doubt the worms in the ground will even go near him he was so rotton to the core. Anyone who kills for profit is an utter scumbag in my eye's.


    Good thing I only kill for fun.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    I think that'd be horrid funny.

    "D'you know something, Eamonn, you were a wanker, but now you're dead. G'lack to ye. Pub, anyone?"

    Don't mean to speak ill of the dead and that, but it would. Just in case some of his posse are readin...being read this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 631 ✭✭✭neil_18_


    seamus wrote: »
    Yes, but would you stand up in public and declare that this man was a role model and a fine upstanding man, knowing that he was in fact a murdering, thieving, torturing, drug dealing scumbag in reality?

    He's family, you would have loved him, and you would talk about what a great brother or father he was, but would you have the gall to claim that he took a path in life worth following and that he was a great man? Of course you wouldn't.

    It goes to show the kind of fantasy land crap that these scum are involved in and how they don't see anything past their petty little gangs and their own self-interest.

    They should have bombed that funeral tbh, do us all a favour.

    How is that doing us a favour? He's already dead... So what, kill his whole family?

    How is that doing anyone a favour?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 977 ✭✭✭Abrasax


    "D'you know something, Eamonn, you were a wanker, but now you're dead. G'lock to ye. Pub, anyone?"

    FYP.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭PeterIanStaker


    Typical of the trash the Sindo comes out with in fairness.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    I'm not defending him or his actions, but it seems like AH is becoming more like the Joe Duffy show everyday. Everyone scrambling to get to the highest of the high ground.

    eh... none of us are speaking as a parent...
    Abrasax wrote: »
    FYP.

    subtle :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    They are his friends and family, they probably knew a completely different side of him.

    Very few people are thoroughly unpleasant in every way, and those that are don't get to the top of anything, because everyone looks forward to pulling them down.

    Most likely, if he did rise to the top, it was in part because he had friends who genuinely liked him and could be counted on.

    Just because someone may have killed people, and may be a drug dealer, doesn't mean that they aren't a likable guy.


    Just look at George Bush - horrible president, but a great man to have a drink with by all accounts.

    Well put.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    They are his friends and family, they probably knew a completely different side of him.

    Very few people are thoroughly unpleasant in every way, and those that are don't get to the top of anything, because everyone looks forward to pulling them down.

    Most likely, if he did rise to the top, it was in part because he had friends who genuinely liked him and could be counted on.

    Just because someone may have killed people, and may be a drug dealer, doesn't mean that they aren't a likable guy.


    Just look at George Bush - horrible president, but a great man to have a drink with by all accounts.


    What a load of bollocks!!

    Can't believe someone could be stupid enough to write that post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭smellslikeshoes


    I hate articles like this. It was a funeral for feck sake, they are hardly going to say he was a gangster and deserved to die or anything.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,594 ✭✭✭bonerm


    Funny, this thread doesn't seem to be getting the same quality modding as the one for Gerry Ryan.
    The offertory was accompanied by a woman singing a version of Bryan Adams's 'Heaven'.
    Considering the number of scumbags out there who presume themselves to be getting into heaven it makes me glad I'm an atheist.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    bonerm wrote: »
    Funny, this thread doesn't seem to be getting the same quality modding as the one for Gerry Ryan.

    Gerry Ryan was loved by many, he also contributed to society, not take from it. Surely you can see the difference between the two. One of them earned the respect of a nation.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 123 ✭✭elleburp


    SeaFields wrote: »
    and does anyone else think that the finding of the car that was used in the shooting wreaks of trying to frame somebody??

    They didnt bother burning it out and it was found complete with bullets and rubber gloves?
    Sound's a tad suspect alright


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭Ammonite


    He was an utter scumbag.

    Thank god no one in my family is like that but if I had a relative like that, I wouldn't go near the funeral.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 495 ✭✭bootybouncer


    Scumbag,

    I think that tool mc williams has a lot to answer for with his arsehole naming he gets away with of these guys, lovely number he has, I reckon he picks up his kids beano and away he goes isteach sa word pad, "the dapper", "the penguin" "the don" "the monarch", jaysus what a number :rolleyes:

    bring in the spanish police over here and bate the bollox outta half the country, sorted ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Gerry Ryan was loved by many, he also contributed to society, not take from it. Surely you can see the difference between the two. One of them earned the respect of a nation.

    Nice of you to step up & take on the role of spokesman for the nation. ;)


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,496 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    ITT: we speak ill of the dead with impunity.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    I heard that even his own people were suspected of killing him, because he had become such a paranoid cúnt.

    I also heard that he told a guy to kill someone, and that if he didn't, he'd be killed.

    Oh yeah, a delightful fella.

    Tell Paul Williams, he'll print it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,383 ✭✭✭Heckler


    He was a scumbag who got what he deserved. Hopefully those who killed him will suffer the same because they are scum too. Of course his family lamented his passing. They are obviously scum too. A ****stain like that isn't bred from a loving, caring family. If that family line died out it would be a favour to the country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭gollem_1975


    What a load of bollocks!!

    Can't believe someone could be stupid enough to write that post.

    isn't he just stating the obvious ?... he's not excusing the dead guys actions. "the_minister" seems to me to be saying that this guy probably did have some friends ,people who looked up to him and family who loved him.

    one could call it a "value-free" statement , I think to say it is stupid is probably a bit unfair tbh.

    OT: if you have time watch "the wire" TV series. It does a good job of humanising the people caught up in the so-called "war on drugs" or the drugs business... but most importantly its excellent TV imho


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,213 ✭✭✭PrettyBoy


    Eamon was a role model to his brother who has always aspired to be a scumbag crime boss. The whole family are scumbags and Eamon got what he deserved.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭gollem_1975


    PrettyBoy wrote: »
    Eamon got what he deserved.
    Its all in the game

    And the guy who shot him will probably be next and so on and so on...

    that his brother is paraphrased by a journalist as saying "he is a role model" is just a non-story tbh.

    now if the local careers guidance counsellor had said it that would be a completely different ball game....


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