RIP when someone dies...

phasers · 30-04-2010 06:05PM

Little My wrote: »

I demand an RIP forum on boards to properly articulate our respect and empathy when someone dies.

Yeah, demanding doesn't really go down well here...

rovert · 30-04-2010 06:08PM

To drown out the dunderheads making silly, irrational points about why are we mourning x etc

Bodhisopha · 30-04-2010 06:08PM

Brayden Howling Pajamas wrote: »

Is it inconceivable?
It has been mentioned in the other thread that his oldest son is a registered user

Not inconceivable but if i was him i'd expect a few distasteful comments and as such would just stay away.

Little My · 30-04-2010 06:11PM

Actually, the church should conduct all ceremonies through boards.ie so we can all attend, post comments and convey our condolences, congratulations as neccessary. Because things that are said on boards matter!!

Biggins · 30-04-2010 06:12PM

Little My wrote: »

...I demand an RIP forum on boards to properly articulate our respect and empathy for everyone who dies.

You can request and those that run the forum will hear you out probably.
"Demanding" I suspect will not go down too well at all.

Pyr0 · 30-04-2010 06:14PM

Biggins wrote: »

You can request and those that run the forum will hear you out probably.
"Demanding" I suspect will not go down too well at all.

I think someone is missing the sarcasm.. :pac:

evercloserunion · 30-04-2010 06:21PM

Little My wrote: »

I have no problem understanding or expressing decency, respect or empathy. Do I have a lack of respect for the person who died because I didn't add RIP? Off course not, hundreds will read the thread and not post anything.

But posting RIP and saying you will pray for the family (and you probably wont) on an anonymous internet forum is virtually meaningless.

If you want to show give your condolences to the family send them a mass card or go sign one of the condolence books that will no doubt be opened up.

And, if boards is the correct forum for this...

Why do we not open a new thread everytime someone dies so we can all say RIP? Do non-famous people not matter?

I demand an RIP forum on boards to properly articulate our respect and empathy for everyone who dies.

You are one serious whinger.

Drumpot · 30-04-2010 06:24PM

Little My wrote: »

I have no problem understanding or expressing decency, respect or empathy. Do I have a lack of respect for the person who died because I didn't add RIP? Off course not, hundreds will read the thread and not post anything.

But posting RIP and saying you will pray for the family (and you probably wont) on an anonymous internet forum is virtually meaningless.

If you want to show give your condolences to the family send them a mass card or go sign one of the condolence books that will no doubt be opened up.

And, if boards is the correct forum for this...

Why do we not open a new thread everytime someone dies so we can all say RIP? Do non-famous people not matter?

I demand an RIP forum on boards to properly articulate our respect and empathy for everyone who dies.

I dont see why you have a problem where people offer their respects . .

There is nothing wrong with posting RIP and there is nothing wrong with posting nothing . . What is wrong is somebody taking exception to people expressing respect to a family in bereavement . . What does it matter if it is in this forum or any other or every forum ? Is After hours too good for RIP's?

Less said easily mended is my motto . . Or alternatively, if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing, that saying might not apply to everything, but this is one subject that it should certainly apply . . I just think when it comes to the death of a person, any respects paid are positive and justified.

Teferi · 30-04-2010 06:36PM

Little My wrote: »

But posting RIP and saying you will pray for the family (and you probably wont) on an anonymous internet forum is virtually meaningless.

If you want to show give your condolences to the family send them a mass card or go sign one of the condolence books that will no doubt be opened up.

Posting about your fear of dogs is virtually meaningless...

hotmail.com · 30-04-2010 06:37PM

Little My wrote: »

Why do people post RIP?

If you don't post RIP... is it assumed you hope the person does not "rest in peace" and instead ends up tormented for all eternity in hell?

Why do people say 'Condolences to the family'?

Surely, if they wanted to send condolences to the family, they would. Do you think the family is going to come on boards to see how many people have offered their condolences?

When people say 'my thoughts and prayers with the family'?

Do people actually pray for the dead person, or the family, or do they just think that if they say 'in my thoughts and prayers' that it means something?

If you are going to pray for someone or a family, why do you need to notify everyone on boards? Or if you want someone to Rest in Peace, again does it make it more likely if you post it on a public forum? And if you want to send condolences to the family - why on earth would boards.ie be a suitable conduit?

Agreed completely. People say these things so much that they have no impact anyway.

Never understood why people wrote RIP at the end of a post, but people are sheep. They see one person writing it, so they feel like they should write it as well.

Excellent post.

Little My · 30-04-2010 06:38PM

Teferi wrote: »

Posting about your fear of dogs is virtually meaningless...

Oh look....

someone knows how to see my previous posts......

That is a very insightful comment. Obviously I cannot have any opinions because... I offered someone advice about having a fear of dogs?

Teferi · 30-04-2010 06:43PM

Little My wrote: »

Oh look....

someone knows how to see my previous posts......

That is a very insightful comment. Obviously I cannot have any opinions because... I offered someone advice about having a fear of dogs?

I was making a point. You obviously didn't understand this so I'll explain it.

Gerry Ryan (for instance...) has entertained most of us in some form over the years. I, for one, enjoyed listening to him on the way into college. My saying RIP on the internet was a way of me showing that I hope he has a good afterlife if there is such a thing. Ya know, the same way you would say it to your friends, family etc in real life.

But I forgot, you're not meant to have feelings on the internet. It's cool to be cynical :rolleyes:

Wibbs · 30-04-2010 06:44PM

Its just part and parcel of the way communities work. The internet just allows more people to do it and also allows more people who feel the compulsion to lash out in inopportune moments do so(few would in real life).

hotmail.com · 30-04-2010 06:48PM

Wibbs wrote: »

Its just part and parcel of the way communities work. The internet just allows more people to do it and also allows more people who feel the compulsion to lash out in inopportune moments do so(few would in real life).

In the conversations I had with people today about Gerry Ryan, never was RIP or my prayers and thoughts stuff mentioned. We just said it's very sad news and shocking.

For some reason, some internet folk splash out these sayings whenever a high profile person dies. They are effectively meaningless at this stage.

Wibbs · 30-04-2010 06:52PM

Teferi wrote: »

But I forgot, you're not meant to have feelings on the internet. It's cool to be cynical :rolleyes:

This too. Often an extension of that adolescent posturing that would generally have the edges knocked off it in real life with real people.

Though its really changing, you're also more likely to come across a particular demographic online. More men than women for a start. More young men too. This demographic is usually very bright, but often can come with fewer social skills. Boards thankfully at least has checks and balances of its own. Youtube type sites have none. As the web becomes more and more mainstream(and it still has some bit to go) sites like Boards will be the norm not the exception IMHO.

Latchy · 30-04-2010 07:00PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

Never understood why people wrote RIP at the end of a post, but people are sheep. They see one person writing it, so they feel like they should write it as well.

In the conversations I had with people today about Gerry Ryan, never was RIP or my prayers and thoughts stuff mentioned. We just said it's very sad news and shocking.

For some reason, some internet folk splash out these sayings whenever a high profile person dies. They are effectively meaningless at this stage.

Thanking somebody because you like or agree with their post is a quick way of expressing something without having to go into great detail .

The RIP is just a more emotional extrension of that .

The boards person who tragically died in Australia last year wasn't a celebrity and recieved many RIP quotes from fellow boards people .

Headstones with RIP on them are not put there by sheep either .

InReality · 30-04-2010 11:01PM

Its a part of message boards which I really fail to understand.
Esp when its a public figure , which I guess the posters have never met.
At least in discussion's your expressing your thoughts to others and will hopefully recieve some interesting comments in return.
Who will read through pages and pages of RIP's ? and why ?

pickarooney · 30-04-2010 11:16PM

There should be a little wreath icon beside the thumbs-up to avoid all the pointless RIP posts.

yoshytoshy · 30-04-2010 11:20PM

I think the RIP phrase is probably the most honest way of expressing condolence ,on the internet.

It's not condescending in that it doesn't go into detail about something important ,which would otherwise make the post irrelevant.

deadhead13 · 30-04-2010 11:28PM

Latchy wrote: »

The boards person who tragically died in Australia last year wasn't a celebrity and recieved many RIP quotes from fellow boards people .

And members of his family contacted boards to say that they had read the condolence threads.

itac · 30-04-2010 11:56PM

Little My,
I'm going to assume that you've gone through the pain of losing someone you love, that you're so close to....the kind of grief which rips you apart inside, but also leaves you open to being more empathetic in years to come when you hear of someone else going through something similar....?

Sure why do we even bother going to removals, queuing for aaaages to shake hands with people we've never met, and will probably never see again? Or why do we bother with mass cards, or sympathetic phrases like "I'm so sorry for your loss. Sorry for your troubles...we'll keep you in our prayers...." when we think the person we're saying them to probably won't remember them, or will have heard them hundreds of times in the previous few minutes?

One thing I'm thankful for in this internet age is that tributes can be left online, and that I can read things people have said about someone I've lost.

Words and cards, and the memories of people calling to the house fade over the years, especially when there's so many of them, but the words left online can be accessed at any time, and personally, that's something I'm very thankful for....

(imo) With radio being such an intimate medium, and at times, you feel the presenter is talking to you only, when you've had that presenter in your life for over 20 years, like many peoples in Ireland have, it's only natural to feel some sort of loss....if it consoles people to post RIP/In thoughts & prayers etc, what's the problem? Like everything on "teh internetz" these days, you have a choice not to open/read/post a thread...:)

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 30-04-2010 11:58PM

pickarooney wrote: »

There should be a little wreath icon beside the thumbs-up to avoid all the pointless RIP posts.

I don't think they are pointless, nor do many others. If you don't want to say it then don't, but if others want to, then what's the big problem?

Tail Wagger · 01-05-2010 12:53AM

Well in Gerry Ryan's case he's a household name, and when people are stunned to get bad news like this they try to show a little bit of respect for him. If you don't understand peoples way of showing how they feel for this guy.... some day you'll get your chance to be tested, when a relative or friend of yours gets their calling, and I mean that with respect!

hotmail.com · 01-05-2010 01:29AM

People that write RIP are sheep in my view. They see other people doing it, so they think oh I better do that too. It's just a load of nonsense from strangers that have never met the person.

whiteboy · 01-05-2010 01:32AM

when some dies..

they go to heaven

scudzilla · 01-05-2010 01:33AM

I guess it's in the same way that people say "He was a great guy"

About 8/9 years ago, in the town i'm from in Wales, a lad was killed, i think he was about 22. I was working in the club the night his death broke, everybody was goin on "what a great guy he was and how wonderful he was"

The guy was a complete and utter cnut, nobody liked him, he was a feckin weasel.

So why do people change there opinions of someone just cos they're brown bread?

mrsdewinter · 01-05-2010 01:38AM

Well, even if the person who has died is the greatest cnut who ever walked the earth, he has a family, people who looked up to him, kids who thought he walked on water. It's the social niceties which help bind society, which helps us all as individuals in the long run

Pretty_Pistol · 01-05-2010 02:26AM

I had a family member who passed away have a thread started on them and some of the family looked at the thread. So GR's family and his children could easily look at the thread and just think how tough it would be for them to see some of the shit that was written about their Dad. I know the youngest daughter defended him on a not so nice FB group made about him so they do look up things.

Some people genuinely feel sad about him dying as they were fans who had listened and watched him for years so why shouldn't they be allowed to express how they feel on Boards if it makes them feel a little better. We have a Ranting and Raving forum and TLL has a thread on how you feel today. If it bothers you so much just don't click into the thread.

Nick_oliveri · 01-05-2010 03:50AM

whiteboy wrote: »

when some dies..
they go to heaven

whiteboy

I am disappoint

Goldenquick · 01-05-2010 06:51AM

hotmail.com wrote: »

People that write RIP are sheep in my view. They see other people doing it, so they think oh I better do that too. It's just a load of nonsense from strangers that have never met the person.

No it's not, it's from people who are shocked when someone passes away unexpectedly & sometimes in tragic circumstances. The Real meaning is : "Requiescat in pace" which translates from Latin to English as "let him rest in peace."

The reason it was said in older times was because there was a lot of suspicion about people dying and coming back to haunt people, hence mourners offered their sympathies to the family and said, "May he/she/they rest in peace".

Also if someone is not at peace in life, it is good to honour them by saying RIP and hoping they are at peace in death.

RIP when someone dies...

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