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RIP when someone dies...

  • 30-04-2010 04:33PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 364 ✭✭


    Why do people post RIP?

    If you don't post RIP... is it assumed you hope the person does not "rest in peace" and instead ends up tormented for all eternity in hell?

    Why do people say 'Condolences to the family'?

    Surely, if they wanted to send condolences to the family, they would. Do you think the family is going to come on boards to see how many people have offered their condolences?

    When people say 'my thoughts and prayers with the family'?

    Do people actually pray for the dead person, or the family, or do they just think that if they say 'in my thoughts and prayers' that it means something?

    If you are going to pray for someone or a family, why do you need to notify everyone on boards? Or if you want someone to Rest in Peace, again does it make it more likely if you post it on a public forum? And if you want to send condolences to the family - why on earth would boards.ie be a suitable conduit?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    Well,

    Its better than insulting them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    I love "little ****ing drug-taking scumbag - deserved everything he got, I've no sympathy for him... oh but my heart goes out to his poor family. :("


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭deelite


    I was always amazed that when somebody dies beautiful flowers are left on graves (I'm talking loads and loads of them). I was at a funeral in the UK recently and the flowers were given to the family and only some of them were placed on the grave itself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 779 ✭✭✭papajimsmooth


    There all afraid of him returning as a zombie


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    You don't have to write RIP, but it's considered to be respectful and is an accepted phrase to use when showing you're condolences.

    People want to express their care. They don't have to physically do anything, because that would be more than a hinderence to the family. Either way, you think most people would read the cards? Not all of them anyway.

    If you say you're thougts are with the family, then obviously they are. I doubt everyone prays when they say they do, but it could also be more of an expression than anything.


    Why do we need to notify anybody about anything ever? Mankind is expressive, it's just how it is.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,545 ✭✭✭Hogzy


    Little My wrote: »
    Do you think the family is going to come on boards to see how many people have offered their condolences?

    Yes, it wouldnt surprise me at all if they were on boards. It has happened alot over the years where threads in relation to someones death have been viewed by family member and family members find it very touching that people who never met someone would have that person in their thoughts. Also its just a matter of respect!!!

    And if you look at the Gerry Ryan thread you will see that a hell of a lot of people have no respect for the death of someone. It doesnt harm anyone to post an RIP!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 699 ✭✭✭ashyle


    it's called decency?
    Obviously whether you say RIP or not makes no difference but it's one of those reciprocal things where it makes the giver feel better too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    How exactly would you send condolences to the family?

    People are just paying their respects. Which you know full well. Stop trying to be edgy, it's embarassing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,329 ✭✭✭Gran Hermano


    Really just
    Increasing their
    Postcount


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Its about showing that despite (if any) differences, we all can understand or know the feeling of loss and pain.
    That we with one voice, with a simple phrase, say "at these sad times - we understand/know and sympathise."

    Its the least we can do if we have any decency in us.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 699 ✭✭✭ashyle


    I never like to say or hear 'I understand...' I think that's a presumptuous thing to say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,028 ✭✭✭✭--LOS--


    I don't know, it makes for a very boring thread though; RIP, RIP, RIP, RIP, RIP, RIP................


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,919 ✭✭✭Einhard


    Little My wrote: »
    Why do people post RIP?

    If you don't post RIP... is it assumed you hope the person does not "rest in peace" and instead ends up tormented for all eternity in hell?

    Yup, that's exactly it. Because I know God reads boards, and that access to Heaven is based exclusively on wheter I decide to post RIP or not. So be nice to me...

    Also, "condolences" is a traditional mark of respect and solidarity regardless of whether anyone connected to the deceased reads it. And it's useful to people, like me, who don't actually believe in an afterlife.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    ashyle wrote: »
    I never like to say or hear 'I understand...' I think that's a presumptuous thing to say.

    Even if you actually understand? If you understand something, you understand it. Further more, you may empathise with the person.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    --LOS-- wrote: »
    I don't know, it makes for a very boring thread though; RIP, RIP, RIP, RIP, RIP, RIP................
    ..then don't re-enter the thread then.
    Its not rocket science to work that action out!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭knird evol


    Little My wrote: »
    Why do people post RIP?

    Manners are the Glue of Society Little My.
    If you don't want to be part of society, why don't you get in
    your car and move on out to Tallaght.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,384 ✭✭✭gbee


    I tend to agree with the OP's sentiments somewhat.

    It does irk me a little when people are platitudinously gratuitous after a death has been announced ...

    I think you know ... "I hate that fellow, what'shisname ...!" Death of said person "RIP he was a grand fellow, will miss him a lot .... etc!"

    I think, above all the recently dead would like honesty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 699 ✭✭✭ashyle


    Even if you actually understand? If you understand something, you understand it. Further more, you may empathise with the person.

    Empathising is one thing, but grief is such an individual process there's no way anyone can understand your personal pain and what the dead person meant to you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,228 ✭✭✭epgc3fyqirnbsx


    Some people are so bloody cynical

    He has 5 kids, all of whom I assume are technologically savvy, I would assume that at least one of them would come across these threads and I can't imagine how hurtful it would be in an already difficult time to read disparaging remarks about their late father

    Cynics, they know the price of everything and the value of nothing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 699 ✭✭✭ashyle


    knird evol wrote: »
    Manners are the Glue of Society Little My.
    If you don't want to be part of society, why don't you get in
    your car and move on out to Tallaght.

    ?


    Manners indeed.:rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,082 ✭✭✭✭Spiritoftheseventies


    Really just
    Increasing their
    Postcount
    Or maybe just paying their respects.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Or maybe just paying their respects.

    I can't see an RIP acronym in there?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,889 ✭✭✭evercloserunion


    It's called common decency, trust someone on the internets to take exception to it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭Abi


    If I haven't anything nice to say, I don't say anything at all. If I'm indifferent, I say nothing at all. I'll post only if I admired the person the RIP thread is about. I don't care whether it makes me sound callous or not, but at least I can say I'm not a hypocrite.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,919 ✭✭✭Einhard


    gbee wrote: »
    I tend to agree with the OP's sentiments somewhat.

    It does irk me a little when people are platitudinously gratuitous after a death has been announced ...

    I think you know ... "I hate that fellow, what'shisname ...!" Death of said person "RIP he was a grand fellow, will miss him a lot .... etc!"

    I think, above all the recently dead would like honesty.

    Isn't "sorry for your loss" or "condolences to the family" honest though? I mean, no matter what you thought of the deceased, you can still genuinely acknowledge the grief that his kin are going through because of his death.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,190 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    People show and express their grief in different ways ,some dont express any at all .

    A simple RIP cost nothing were as a rant about the deceased can and does cause offence pain and hurt to somebody .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    When it comes to the death of a person, it takes more effort to be rude then it does to be nice . .

    Why did I post RIP ? Because for that moment my thoughts were with the deceased and their family and I wanted to express my sentiments . .

    What anybody thinks of the man is irrelevant. There is nothing wrong with people wanting to pay respect to a person in their own way.

    Maybe the OP just doesn't understand the concept of respect and Empathy . .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,068 ✭✭✭Bodhisopha


    Some people are so bloody cynical

    He has 5 kids, all of whom I assume are technologically savvy, I would assume that at least one of them would come across these threads and I can't imagine how hurtful it would be in an already difficult time to read disparaging remarks about their late father

    Cynics, they know the price of everything and the value of nothing


    You really think his family or close friends will trawl through god knows how many pages of a thread dedicated to him on www.boards.ie to see what anonymous posters had to say? Despite the fact that they will bogged down with far more condolonces and tributes than you or i could ever hope to receieve?

    Nah, i don't see it. Get over yourselves www.boards.ie


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,228 ✭✭✭epgc3fyqirnbsx


    Is it inconceivable?
    It has been mentioned in the other thread that his oldest son is a registered user


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 364 ✭✭Little My


    I have no problem understanding or expressing decency, respect or empathy. Do I have a lack of respect for the person who died because I didn't add RIP? Off course not, hundreds will read the thread and not post anything.

    But posting RIP and saying you will pray for the family (and you probably wont) on an anonymous internet forum is virtually meaningless.

    If you want to show give your condolences to the family send them a mass card or go sign one of the condolence books that will no doubt be opened up.

    And, if boards is the correct forum for this...

    Why do we not open a new thread everytime someone dies so we can all say RIP? Do non-famous people not matter?

    I demand an RIP forum on boards to properly articulate our respect and empathy for everyone who dies.


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