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The homeless beggars

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭Stephentlig


    Insurgent wrote: »
    They are still about. They are proactive in asking you for money as in stopping you in the street and asking you. Not like some that just sit at the side of the road.

    Some guy asked me for money even though I had just seen him leave his house!

    well I've never seen any romanians approaching me and pressing me for money, but I have seen the travelling community come out in their gangs and roam around the town pressing people for money.

    the more you say no, the more they recognise your face and stop approaching you.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 19,242 Mod ✭✭✭✭L.Jenkins


    xzanti wrote: »
    ...they come over to you when you're stopped at the lights giving you a thumbs up and them making a sign of the cross at you when you've waved them away.. Well it's either the sign of the cross or some voodoo curse :eek: ...

    I'd just give 'em the bird and drive away! You'll know someone got just alittle bit aggravated with them when you hear that 2 romanians got run over at a red light, of all places!


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 19,242 Mod ✭✭✭✭L.Jenkins


    Degsy wrote: »
    Make no mistake..these people make more money than you or i or most people working for a living...they send the money home and spend it on huge houses..so called Gypsy Palaces

    Athlone has a few belonging the travelling community, one of which was confiscated by the C.A.B. Dodgey financing no doubt, but thats a different matter altogether!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    Here's a link to what these scumbags are up to.

    sloughraid2401_228x527.jpg


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    And another.

    Its amazing how stupid and naive ordinary people can be when they see these professional charlatans at work.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Fukuyama


    I hate this ... they're in pretty much every main city in Ireland. I live in Dublin and have seen in in Cork and Galway.

    The heroin addicts annoy me too ... "er...sorry bud hav yer got any change?" acting like he's starving but really he just fancies shooting up.

    Was walking down o connell street with my earphones in when a girl approached me and I gave her like thirty cent without making eye contact or removing my earphones. a few seconds later shes tugging on my arm and she's clearly on something... looks like shes just been in a cage fight with a tiger.

    It transpires that she's "three months pregnant" (my arse) and needs money "for de baby". We both stare at one another, seeing who'll make the next move. I'm kinda baffeled because I've just given her money... So I ask what she wants. She says money. I tell her I just gave her some. .... she wants a fiver. A FIVER!!! I was coming home from work at the time, tired and grouchy and some addict wants me to start giving her paper money. Money I work hard for. Come on ... they're getting expensive to keep these junkies, roma and beggars of ours :P


    Another thing that gets me (sorry for annoying non-Dubliners here) but O'Connel street is the main thoughourfair in our Capital city and its where many tourists gather as a center point for busses, tours and sights. It's also the location of pretty much our only well recognised nation 'monuments, the GPO. And yet they're the top target for junkies to tap a few quid. Probably not the impression of the Emerald Isle they were sold in the travel agent :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 370 ✭✭D1976


    Saw this on bbc 2 last year, worth checking out if it can be viewed on the bbc archive.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8226580.stm


    I personally would never give anything to any beggar


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,438 ✭✭✭TwoShedsJackson


    All the best begging spots in town have a rota organised. The spot outside the pedestrian entrance to Brown Thomas's carpark must be prime turf, there's about four beggars there regular, and no Roma. There's usually a shift change around 5 p.m. if anyone wants to see it in action.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 19,242 Mod ✭✭✭✭L.Jenkins


    Degsy wrote: »
    And another.

    Its amazing how stupid and naive ordinary people can be when they see these professional charlatans at work.

    Robbing feckers, they're nearly better than we are! And I bet, every item you can get your hands; houses, cars, food, drink and cigs cost half nothing!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,345 ✭✭✭landsleaving


    Degsy wrote: »
    Here's a link to what these scumbags are up to.

    sloughraid2401_228x527.jpg

    But all those links are from the Daily Mail...

    I hear the gypsys give you cancer, and that Russel Brand is one of them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 850 ✭✭✭SoulTrader


    if we stop giving them money then they stop begging and look for other ways to find money, one of those ways being ''finding a job''.
    And another of those ways being skimming ATMs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Degsy wrote: »
    So you think Roma women are trafficked here?
    Yes, it's been done.
    THE Government was warned that Eastern European crime bosses involved in human trafficking planned to send thousands of Roma gypsies into Ireland.
    The first wave of 220 gypsies arrived here in January, including some of the 50 to 70 still encamped yesterday on the M50 roundabout.

    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/trafficking-gangs-plan-to-flood-ireland-with-roma-1042349.html


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 19,242 Mod ✭✭✭✭L.Jenkins


    The spot outside the pedestrian entrance to Brown Thomas's carpark must be prime turf, there's about four beggars there regular, and no Roma.

    Is it a bottle neck by any chance, where unsuspecting drivers or pedestrians can actually avoid the place once they've gotten into it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 598 ✭✭✭Lemegeton


    most of the time i dont cos its either foreigners or junkies with a fag hanging out of their mouth. sometimes though i see someone who looks genuine and ill give them some money. i do agree that in the long run its better to give to the likes of the Simon group and Focus.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭Kasabian


    I normally give money to homeless people who are selling the Big Issue , just give them the price of it and tell them sell on the copy. It is my understanding that they are given X amount of copies so by handing it back it increases their intake.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭Stephentlig


    does anyone here actually buy the Big Issue?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,723 ✭✭✭Cheap Thrills!


    Roma get nothing from me except a hostile stare.

    I hate that whingey, keening, beggy voice they put on

    '...please...meess....de money..pleeeeeeeeeeeeese....foothe...baybe....pleethe...'

    FCUK. OFF.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,665 ✭✭✭✭cson


    Strolling down O'Connell Str.
    'Please Sir please, i pray for you Sir, i pray for you, i have sick baby, please Sir.'

    Or waiting for a Luas one Saturday, two Roma young girls are wait, see me go over to the ticketmachine and walks over righ in my face with a cup
    'Change, please?'
    Told em no
    Then hopped on the Luas and walked down begging off everyone else.

    I dont give them anything unless it's a well known Charity and I get a sticker!

    Those ****ers that divide up the Luas machines and beg off anyone trying to buy a ticket. I swear I'll punch one of them in the face one of the days. This one asked me on St Stephens Green one day; said no. Kept persisting. Told her to **** off before I called the cops. She did.

    And I love Veolia's policy of fining anyone for fare evasion that looks like they can pay it but merely telling the Roma to get off.

    If I had my way there'd be open season on beggars once a year.


  • Posts: 23,497 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I rarely give money to beggars, although there is an old dude that plays a little electronic piano mat thing on Oliver Plunkett Street in Cork, whenever I see him I generally give him a euro or two, he used to sell flowers and luminous braceletts and that sort of crap a few years ago. He seems a genuine sort who is never drinking etc. He also has a dog with him, I'm a sucker for the folks with dogs to be honest, he seems to look after the dog though. One time a couple of years back I was heading into McDonalds in Daunt Square, 'twas unreal cold and there was a dude begging outside Easons near the ATM, I had to take a few quid out but he never asked me for cash, as I strolled past him I asked him how was the form, he said something like not bad at all or something. I was out of work myself at the time but was after a fairly lucrative 15 months (I was self employed). After I had my McD delights I got him a tea and gave him a fiver, as I said 'twas unreal cold that night, wasn't too bothered what he did with the fiver.

    Another time I was out with my Dad and my sister, strolling around little side streets heading for grub somewhere, I was on the phone so a few yards behind them, there was a chap begging who asked them for a few coins or whatever, they refused politely and walked on, the chap started shouting abuse after them, he was mid 30s, looked quite healthy and fit and wasn't a small bloke either, he continued with the abuse and as I approached he nodded to them and said my ole lad was a dictator (I reckon he thought the sister would have given him a few euro only for my Dad being there or something). Anyway my Dad is 60 odd and I'm quite fond of him so I told the smelly begging pr1ck that he was my ole lad and would he like his face rearranged, I was well p1ssed off to be honest. Mr beggar pr1ck promptly shut up so I left him alone, I could quite happily have danced on his head, cowardly bullying bastad.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    I normally just have a chat with them, tell them I have no money, give them a few smokes if I have them. They do appretiate things like that, they are not all after money for drugs/drink. Can you imagine living a few days on the street would be like? I know I wouldn't be able to cope too long. They have an extremely hard life, and in many cases, it is through no fault of their own.


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,464 Mod ✭✭✭✭xzanti


    RoverJames wrote: »
    I. He also has a dog with him, I'm a sucker for the folks with dogs to be honest, .

    Yeah I'd be a bit of a softy if I saw someone with oul mutt beside them alright :o


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    But all those links are from the Daily Mail...

    I hear the gypsys give you cancer, and that Russel Brand is one of them.


    Well then you provide evidence that that article is made up.

    Lefties have thier heads so far up thier arses they refuse to accept reality if it doesnt tally with thier world view.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,464 Mod ✭✭✭✭xzanti


    I normally just have a chat with them, tell them I have no money, give them a few smokes if I have them. They do appretiate things like that, they are not all after money for drugs/drink. Can you imagine living a few days on the street would be like? I know I wouldn't be able to cope too long. They have an extremely hard life, and in many cases, it is through no fault of their own.

    That's the problem, I don't think anyone would begrudge a genuine homeless person some help, but it's trying to decipher who's genuine and who isn't..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭aDeener


    the only way to deal with the homeless is to try and jump over as many as you can on a skateboard


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    xzanti wrote: »
    That's the problem, I don't think anyone would begrudge a genuine homeless person some help, but it's trying to decipher who's genuine and who isn't..

    The genuine ones are down in the Simon/Social Welfare office enquiring how they can get their life back on track, no?


  • Posts: 53,068 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I won't give money to non national beggars. I'm sure that sounds horrible but I just think that charity starts at home.

    I will give a euro or two to someone who I think it genuinely homeless. Of course there's no way of knowing for sure. I feel so bad for alot of these people. And while there are alot of people homeless because of drink and drugs, there are also alot of people who are addicted to drink and drugs because they're homeless. I support the Simon Community whenever I can, my Dad used to be a volunteer with them and some of the stories he heard are so sad.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,464 Mod ✭✭✭✭xzanti


    topper75 wrote: »
    The genuine ones are down in the Simon/Social Welfare office enquiring how they can get their life back on track, no?

    All day every day?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,305 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Degsy wrote: »
    Well then you provide evidence that that article is made up.

    Lefties have thier heads so far up thier arses they refuse to accept reality if it doesnt tally with thier world view.

    Its the Daily Mail FFS!

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 489 ✭✭perri winkles


    My friend is a guard and he told me they were arresting/moving on a Roma woman and she had a bum bag wit over 400 euro in it.

    Her husband was coming along every so often, taking the bag and handing her an empty one.

    I never EVER give to them, I tell them exactly where to go when they come up harrassing me on the street.


    Ever noticed how many gold teeth the fu*kers have ? ? :mad::mad:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭Zombienosh


    I was once just after buying a coffee and a gypsy women stopped me outside with her baby hanging out of her, "Please moneys, Baby need coffee"

    eh?:pac:


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