Cash hit gardai want to work as bouncers

Run_to_da_hills · 26-04-2010 04:59PM #1

Currently it is against the law for Gardai to work part time in the private security industry which would include bouncer. Gardai want this law changed as they are feeling the pinch and could do with the extra income.

Would this be a good idea?

From a security point of view you could be sure Gardai would be very prompt in responding to a call if their part time collegues are having hassle at a night club door.

http://www.herald.ie/national-news/cashhit-gardai-want-to-work-as-bouncers-2152669.html

cson · 26-04-2010 05:01PM

Coppers looking for new staff I'm guessing? :P

Edit: They'd be better served getting the finger out in their primary jobs before they start taking on extra work.

TheZohanS · 26-04-2010 05:02PM

Given their line of work, the last thing you want is the Gardai being strapped for cash.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 26-04-2010 05:08PM

cson wrote: »

Coppers looking for new staff I'm guessing? :P

Edit: They'd be better served getting the finger out in their primary jobs before they start taking on extra work.

There isn't enough :rolleyes: on the internet for this statement...

cson · 26-04-2010 05:11PM

Aaron Harsh Jury wrote: »

There isn't enough :rolleyes: on the internet for this statement...

In a statement made to Gor-dai... /Jim Fahy voice.

Ah go on, give it a blast I'm sure you can fit more than one rolleyes in a post.

Blobby George · 26-04-2010 05:12PM

I am not sure if I would be comfortable with extra intelligence around while I'm out drinking.

dunleakelleher · 26-04-2010 05:25PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

From a security point of view you could be sure Gardai would be very prompt in responding to a call if their part time collegues are having hassle at a night club door.

While ignoring calls from non member door staff, just to up the profile of these gardai/bouncers to club and pub oweners. You can be dam sure that in a year or two the gardai/bouncers would be charging twice the rate of normal bouncers and every club would have to have one.
Also if one of these gardai/bouncers were assaulted on the door would they still be looking for the 12 year mandatory sentencing.

I have yet to meet a poor guard

alwaysadub · 26-04-2010 05:28PM

Sitec wrote: »

Jesus i'd hate to see the power trip they would be on.

Normal bouncers are bad enough.

Was thinking that myself.what you would get away with with a bouncer, might get you arrested by a bouncer who's main job is in the Gardai. It'd be hard for them to draw the line between being a bouncer and being a Garda.

Jaxxy · 26-04-2010 05:37PM

alwaysadub wrote: »

Was thinking that myself.what you would get away with with a bouncer, might get you arrested by a bouncer who's main job is in the Gardai. It'd be hard for them to draw the line between being a bouncer and being a Garda.

Yeah I'd have to agree. If a bouncer who was also in the Gardaí thought there was trouble and called in a few buddies for back up you can rest assured there would only be one side of the story the back up will be listening to.

Some bouncers say that they can't get involved in altercations/problems outside of their pub/club boundaries, you'd have to wonder if a Gard working on the door would have the same approach. Also I don't particularly feel the desire to start carrying my passport/driver's licence around town again. You'd have to imagine that Gards on the door would be much more strict in that regard too.

DubMedic · 26-04-2010 05:43PM

The herald as a source? come on, you can do better than that!!.

strobe · 26-04-2010 05:44PM

TheZohan wrote: »

Given their line of work, the last thing you want is the Gardai being strapped for cash.

I agree with you, the same applies to politicians. But does anyone else feel kind of uneasy about the fact most people will say without any hesitation "if the gardai are short of cash they will take bribes" completely manner of factly?

Run_to_da_hills · 26-04-2010 05:52PM

DubMedic wrote: »

The herald as a source? come on, you can do better than that!!.

Here.

ScumLord · 26-04-2010 06:00PM

What if one of them saw you off your noodle in the club and then spent his days following you around waiting to catch you with something.

They could end up picking up some unhealthy grudges against allot of people.

MitchKoobski · 26-04-2010 06:05PM

If a bouncer throws someone out its seen as "Ah ya wanker, throwing me out i'm not that bad.", and said drunk will saunter off.
If a part time garda throws him out he will immediatly start shouting "ASSAULT!! ASSAULT!! BEING ASSAULTED BY SOME GARDA!!"

It would be a disaster.

RoundTower · 26-04-2010 06:09PM

you can already hire them (in uniform, and officially) if you are putting on a concert or a football match, so why not for a nightclub?

26-04-2010 06:09PM

Fuk that. Ya never know what could happen on a night out and I don't want to get into a situation with a guard who will fuk you. Would never go near the place..

I've never actually been in a fight by the way.

Run_to_da_hills · 26-04-2010 07:53PM

More than likely if Gardai get permission to work as bouncers they would prefere to work among themselves rather than with a security firm, is there room for this?

I know of one security firm in Ennis that is currently struggling, one bouncer is now down to working just one night a week from three in the past. A lot of pubs are now hireing direct rather than dealing through security firms.

Kasabian · 26-04-2010 07:58PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

More than likely if Gardai get permission to work as bouncers they would prefere to work among themselves rather than with a security firm, is there room for this?

I know of one security firm in Ennis that is currently struggling, one bouncer is now down to working just one night a week from three in the past. A lot of pubs are now hireing direct rather than dealing through security firms.

Poor Kevin

minidazzler · 26-04-2010 08:00PM

RoundTower wrote: »

you can already hire them (in uniform, and officially) if you are putting on a concert or a football match, so why not for a nightclub?

Because who wants to go to a night club where there is a couple of guards dotted around the place making sure you are in order.

Also, they are more expensive than regular security and an endless supply of tea and biscuits is required!

cson · 26-04-2010 08:01PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

I know of one security firm in Ennis that is currently struggling, one bouncer is now down to working just one night a week from three in the past. A lot of pubs are now hireing direct rather than dealing through security firms.

My heart bleeds.

Is there any other job in the world where you get paid to be a bollocks?

--LOS-- · 26-04-2010 08:12PM

A garda being a bouncer to me says assault is legal.

Gardai are pretty much on the bouncers side anyways, imagine what it would be like with a garda bouncer.

Nijmegen · 26-04-2010 08:54PM

There's a number of reasons, good reasons, why police are not and generally should not be allowed to double job.

Conflict of interest, for the police officer/Garda and their colleagues in dealing with situations
Potential to bring the force into disrepute, and undermine the authority of uniformed Gardai

The Gardai are relatively well paid, and nobody joins the force blind to the pay scales nor the restrictions on other activities, such as political activism. Once you're a Guard, you're exclusively a Guard, pay cuts not withstanding.

Any Gardai taking a bribe, on a seperate note, because of pay cuts or in general, should be dealt with in as heavy handed a manner as allowed by independant watchdogs assigned to oversee their activity. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Run_to_da_hills · 26-04-2010 08:55PM

lonad wrote: »

Poor Kevin

He had pretty much the town covered 10 years ago.

biko · 26-04-2010 08:56PM

Garda has greater powers than bouncers, would they be allowed to use them in a private capacity?

DublinWriter · 26-04-2010 08:57PM

Nijmegen wrote: »

There's a number of reasons, good reasons, why police are not and generally should not be allowed to double job.

Well, police in the US are allowed to work a maximum number of hours in other employment, a lot of them do barwork.

Nothing wrong with the occasional double (bar) tap.

Nijmegen · 26-04-2010 09:02PM

DublinWriter wrote: »

Well, police in the US are allowed to work a maximum number of hours in other employment, a lot of them do barwork.

Nothing wrong with the occasional double (bar) tap.

:-) Depends on the force. The US is not a good comparible example, given its dispirate police forces at all levels up and down the local, state and federal nation.

I would daresay also that the police in the US have been involved, per capita, in more questionable incidents involving, you know, beating the hell out of people, than elsewhere.

Run_to_da_hills · 26-04-2010 09:05PM

DublinWriter wrote: »

Well, police in the US are allowed to work a maximum number of hours in other employment, a lot of them do barwork.

Nothing wrong with the occasional double (bar) tap.

In the US Bouncers (Security personnel) can carry guns :eek:

IvySlayer · 26-04-2010 09:06PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

In the US Bouncers (Security personnel) can carry guns :eek:

Anyone can carry guns over there...

RMD · 26-04-2010 09:10PM

Some bouncers are bad enough, last thing I want is some Garda naming every law under the sun I'm "breaking" for being a bit rowdy. They'd be on a serious powertrip.

yoshytoshy · 26-04-2010 09:17PM

I thought security was what gardai done when they retired ,I've met a few retired guards who have up-market security consultancy/business.

It would be fine for things like security for music venues and the like ,wouldn't like to see off duty gardai hanging around pubs.

El Siglo · 26-04-2010 09:21PM

There's not enough jobs for the rest of us and now the gardai want a second job?

Rabble rabble rabble civil servants rabble rabble dey tuk ur jobs rabble rabble rabble...

Cash hit gardai want to work as bouncers

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