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Would you not date or be Friends with anyone cause of their social background?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭Sanjuro


    When you start up a interesting conversation they looked amazed:rolleyes:
    I'm willing to bet that that scenario has never actually happened.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 522 ✭✭✭KevinVonSpiel


    I try to be open minded... but there is just something about fervent Nazis &, indeed, people from Drogheda...


    & regarding:
    Pittens wrote: »
    We should define terms. how many people would marry someone who left school at 16, has a very strong accent, and comes with tattoos and a bulldog?

    It would depend on the size of her breasts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Sanjuro wrote: »
    I'm willing to bet that that scenario has never actually happened.
    Oh I overheard a girl in UCC expressing amazement that there were students from Ballyvolane (a middle-class suburb but on the northside) attending there.
    You'd be surprised at how much stupidity there is out there when it comes to this issue.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 690 ✭✭✭Blobby George


    You should surround yourself with as many people from differing backgrounds as possible. Staying in a narrow focus group can be quite detrimental to your development socially.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭toiletduck


    Heh, the Northside Southside thing is funny.

    Ye're all scummy Dubs to the rest of us :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭Sanjuro


    Dudess wrote: »
    Oh I overheard a girl in UCC expressing amazement that there were students from Ballyvolane (a middle-class suburb but on the northside) attending there.
    You'd be surprised at how much stupidity there is out there when it comes to this issue.

    No, I meant the OP starting an intelligent conversation! :D




    j/k!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,345 ✭✭✭landsleaving


    toiletduck wrote: »
    Heh, the Northside Southside thing is funny.

    Ye're all scummy Dubs to the rest of us :pac:

    Wha? Are you startin? I'll bait ya I will.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,222 ✭✭✭✭Marty McFly


    toiletduck wrote: »
    Heh, the Northside Southside thing is funny.

    Ye're all scummy Dubs to the rest of us :pac:

    Weres the dislike button? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭toiletduck


    I've seen Fair City. I know what ye're like.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 740 ✭✭✭star.chaser


    i wouldn't go out with a native dubliner. no class/sexiness. drink too much, fart too much and swear like truckers but maybe it's just the ones i've met :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 357 ✭✭Horse_box


    PCros wrote: »
    Probably southsiders because they think they're from West Hollywood and are brought up with everything in life payed for them.

    LOL

    You location is Swords. There are plenty of areas on the southside far more working class than Swords


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,803 ✭✭✭El Siglo


    I'm a culchie, not a rich background by any strech of the imagination and definitely not a 'stable' one. However I ended up in UCD and TCD and to be honest, stuck-up people are going to be stuck-up people regardless. I went to a shit school and had to put up with stuck-up pricks, same at college. Personally though, what I don't like is ignorance and that's what you get with some people, rich or poor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 232 ✭✭nachoman


    It feels like alot of pressure in Ireland, Dublin in particular, where people are so obsessed with status, thats why I feel more relaxed around women when traveling abroad and staying in hostels because people don't compartmentalize you as a certain rigid stereotype which I feel alot of women from middle class backrounds do in Dublin with their princess mentality. Dublin women are Obsessed with status!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,085 ✭✭✭Xiney


    So is anyone dating or married to anyone from a higher or lower bacKground?

    My dad is a nuclear physicist, we were always middle class (could have been upper middle class except my mother doesn't know the meaning of "budget" :rolleyes:)

    My husband comes from a much poorer background - out in the sticks so he didn't grow up in a council estate, but he grew up in a house built for them by the council.


    I've never looked down on people because of where they come from - I decide based on their opinions and actions if they would be a good friend for me to have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭AskMyChocolate


    Dudess wrote: »
    For those who wouldn't date northsiders, it must be quite the dilemma if you meet someone hot from Clontarf (OBVIOUSLY just the part furthest from Fairview :eek:), the posh part of Glasnevin, Malahide, Howth... what the hell do you do to resolve this muddle?

    Dublin isn't divided North/South, it's divided East/West.
    On a personal note I'd have to say I'm amazed at how many people can afford the luxury of choice. If I was that picky I'd have very few mates and don't even get me started on my sex life. Also, how do people get along in a work/college situation if they're that bigoted? Do they eat lunch on their own?:confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 485 ✭✭Elenxor


    I would'nt date anyone from Tullamore


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,329 ✭✭✭Agonist


    I draw the line at people who think an 'estate' is a housing development.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,178 ✭✭✭✭NothingMan


    Dublin isn't divided North/South, it's divided East/West.

    We're talking about Dublin, Ireland. You know the county with a river called the Liffey that divide's north & south sides of the county. South side having all even postcodes, northside having odd number postcodes (unless you have no postcode). Southside having a name as being full of posh D4 head types despite having Ballyfermot, Tallaght & other less reputable areas and north side reputed as being a slum despite area's like Howth & Sutton which are quiet & charming. What Dublin are you thinking of?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 489 ✭✭perri winkles


    I lived in a slightly less well off area in south Dublin, but went to a private school away from my area and got slagged and tormented mercilessly for it.

    I remember one guy actaully told me he couldn't be friends with me or talk to me because he found my accent ridiculous (too posh apparently).


    So it happens on both sides.

    I can safely say I wouldn't go out with anyone from my area really, I have no respect for the people my age who live there. That's just personal experience though. I probably would consider someone from a different class or area, but subconciously it probably would be a factor.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    I've rarely met anyone who gives middle-class people sh1t for being middle-class - other than actual middle-class people themselves who have chips on their shoulders about being middle-class. I went through that phase myself - and got over it by 18.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 485 ✭✭Elenxor


    why does it always end up all about Dublin, some of us live on the rest of the island!, and where does it say Dublin in the Question?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 489 ✭✭perri winkles


    Was that directed at me Dudess?

    Well I certainly got alot of hassle over it, especially because everyone else went to the local community school. I was the only one from my estate to go to private school. The girls especially were brutal.

    And I have to say I now take great pleasure in seeing that half of them had children by the age of 18 and the other half never made it to college. Is that wrong of me? Probably. But after all the torment I got over apparently being 'posh', I don't really care if its considered right or wrong.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Oh no sorry, just speaking about my own experiences.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,860 ✭✭✭doncarlos


    NothingMan wrote: »
    We're talking about Dublin, Ireland. You know the county with a river called the Liffey that divide's north & south sides of the county. South side having all even postcodes, northside having odd number postcodes (unless you have no postcode). Southside having a name as being full of posh D4 head types despite having Ballyfermot, Tallaght & other less reputable areas and north side reputed as being a slum despite area's like Howth & Sutton which are quiet & charming. What Dublin are you thinking of?

    In fairness I think what she was trying to say is that the city is split between richer east side and working class west side rather than geographicly by the Liffy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,178 ✭✭✭✭NothingMan


    doncarlos wrote: »
    In fairness I think what she was trying to say is that the city is split between richer east side and working class west side rather than geographicly by the Liffy.


    Maybe, but I don't see how east is richer than the west either. Inner city is as east as you get and it's not considered a wealthy area. Plenty of nice areas like Terenure and parts of Lucan that are westward and quite nice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,432 ✭✭✭df1985


    id love to be able to say no, i wouldnt matter to me, but if i met someone from ballymun/moyross or somewhere else stereotyped as a dump i will admit my initial judgement of them would be clouded by the fact they are from these types of areas. that being said i know a lad from moyross working in dublin and hes bang on but even he says himself he would be the exception to the rule of the type of people he knows in moyross.

    I think it worse with the older generations though, my mam is from galway, she will only be happy if i marry a girl from west of the shannon if shes honest. shes has said in the past no dubs, no nordies and no cork/kerry people. im sure if it came down to it she'd be fine but if she had a choice in it thats what she'd prefer. and i wont even start on marrying someone from a foreign country......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭Pittens


    I'm dating someone from the northside of Dublin, and I'm from the southside, and one of the wealthier parts of it too. Her family are probably better off than mine though, so go figure
    Oh I overheard a girl in UCC expressing amazement that there were students from Ballyvolane (a middle-class suburb but on the northside) attending there.
    My husband comes from a much poorer background - out in the sticks so he didn't grow up in a council estate, but he grew up in a house built for them by the council.


    In my original post here I said that the broad middle classes tended to date each other, the middle 80%. Thats a large pool and that is what we are seeing here, except for the first post where a rich northsider is dating a rich southsider. The whole north and southside thing is a first level approximation ( there are rich and poor on both sides); what happens is that the rich date the rich, the middle group dates each other and the bottom 10% dates itself.

    I am from a culchie village. I left at 18 and have dated from a doctor to a an office manager who had secondary school only but was broadly middle income( and students, obviously, when a student). Also different ethnic groups.

    However I would not date a Shameless type chav, a drug user ( lifestyle, not class, in that case), nor would most upper middle class Dubliners or Corkonians date me. The doctor was a culchie. In the UK I would have a better chance.

    Heres story: Girl walks over to me in a Dublin pub - well just outside - and talks. Seems interested. Gets around to asking where I am from ( not what I do) and then loses interest. Immediately.

    And look - go to the richer suburbs. Everybody sounds the same. That means they married the same people. Then go to the poorest suburbs and inner city. Again: Everybody sounds the same.

    Then go to middle income ( note: not "Middle Class" in the sense of posh) burbs, and appartments _ I mean Tyrrelstown etc.. Culchies, middle income dubliners with neutralish accents, foreigners, Donegalians, Norn Iron, Kerrymen. All, talking, hanging, and f*cking. That's my class. The protestors are probably upper middle class.

    I would date about 90% of the female population. But not all. I mean by class (prior to knowing their lifestyle or income). So I am prejudical against 10%.


    Some people protesth too much methinks. Could it be that the people who say they would date anybody don't? Are , in fact, upper middle to rich themselves?

    Saying stuff is easy. The clear evidence of Dublins ( and Ireland's) class structure is in the accents in the different areas. If we all married equally every area would have all the accents.

    EDIT: Something just occurred to me. I work in London in an Office where the temps are either New Zealanders, or Australian. I can tell the difference, but then it is thousand of miles. However we now have two New Zealanders. They sound the same. Not to us, the them as well. One comes from the North Island, one from the South Irland. That's hundreds of miles difference. They asked each other where they were from

    The idea of someone from Douglas having to ask what part of the city the guy from Knocknaheney is from is laughable.

    Get that. Irish class accents are wider spaced across 2 miles than New Zealand accents across hundreds of miles.

    It;s all provincial claptrap, of course, but it is what it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,860 ✭✭✭doncarlos


    NothingMan wrote: »
    Maybe, but I don't see how east is richer than the west either. Inner city is as east as you get and it's not considered a wealthy area. Plenty of nice areas like Terenure and parts of Lucan that are westward and quite nice.

    I didn't say I agreed with her, just explaining what she was trying to say! :)
    df1985 wrote: »

    I think it worse with the older generations though, my mam is from galway, she will only be happy if i marry a girl from west of the shannon if shes honest. shes has said in the past no dubs, no nordies and no cork/kerry people. im sure if it came down to it she'd be fine but if she had a choice in it thats what she'd prefer. and i wont even start on marrying someone from a foreign country......

    Yeah parents are funny like that. I used to go out with a girl from Lucan and her mam was from Monaghen. She loved me because I was from Dundalk and not a Dub!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 453 ✭✭gonnaplayrugby


    i can only be friends with people from southside dublin. believe me im just middle class but i think the northsiders and bog people are very different. a foreigner whose lived in the southside for 6 months has more connection with me than a northsider.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,345 ✭✭✭landsleaving


    i can only be friends with people from southside dublin. believe me im just middle class but i think the northsiders and bog people are very different. a foreigner whose lived in the southside for 6 months has more connection with me than a northsider.

    They play rugby in other places too you know :p


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