Top bullfighter gored in Mexico

Klingon Hamlet · 25-04-2010 05:47PM #1

Article here:

One of Spain's leading matadors was seriously injured in Mexico when a 1,100-pound bull gored him in the groin and hoisted him into the air, causing major blood loss, his manager said.

Jose Tomas received a transfusion of 17 pints of blood after being gored by a beast named Navegante in the Mexican city of Aguascalientes.

The bull's horn penetrated 4 inches into Tomas' groin and punctured a vein and an artery, manager Salvador Boix told Spanish radio station Cadena Ser from Aguascalientes.

Tomas, one of Spain's most popular matadors, has a relatively rare blood type - A- - and bled so profusely that bullring officials appealed over the arena loudspeakers for compatible donors to come forward for transfusions, Boix said.

Bullring doctors operated on the 34-year-old Tomas immediately to stabilise him, and he underwent more surgery later at a hospital for more than three hours.

"Now he has new blood and is in intensive care, waiting to see how things evolve," Boix said, adding that Tomas is not conscious.

Mexican television footage aired on the website of the Spanish newspaper El Mundo shows Tomas working the animal with his cape when the bull makes a quick turn toward the matador and catches him in the groin, lifting him into the air for a few seconds and shaking its head with Tomas dangling from its sharp left horn.

Once on the ground, Tomas rolled away and held his hands up as if to say he was OK, but a large, dark red stain was already spreading through his glittering gold suit.

The newspaper El Pais said Tomas' injury was so serious that the bullring doctors who first operated on him did not even take time to anesthetise him.

Tomas is known for a daring bullfighting style in which he gets particularly close to the bull. His full name is Jose Tomas Roman Martin.

Correct me if I'm wrong..bullfighting involves riling a bull up with the red flag, before goring it in front of a bloodthirsty crowd. If this is still the way it goes, then this is kind of karmic for the bullfighter...taste of his own medicine:D

GLaDOS · 25-04-2010 05:49PM

Well, that's what you get. I hope he survives and all, but it's hard to feel sorry for him.

minidazzler · 25-04-2010 05:51PM

What's that saying? If you're gonna play with fire, you are gonna get fcuked around by a bull.

AnonoBoy · 25-04-2010 05:52PM

That's what we call in sports 'losing'.

minidazzler · 25-04-2010 05:53PM

AnonoBoy wrote: »

That's what we call in sports 'losing'.

Depends really, I was routing for the bull.

alwaysadub · 25-04-2010 05:57PM

Ouch.
He's won't be messing with bulls again anytime soon

CreepingDeath · 25-04-2010 06:05PM

Don't think they've been injecting that bull with female hormones like the gay chickens !

Poly · 25-04-2010 06:05PM

Heres the video:

http://newsblogged.com/video-bullfighter-jose-tomas-gored-in-groin-mexico-youtube

The search for his testicles continues, nice to see the bull win for once.

25-04-2010 06:20PM

Klingon Hamlet wrote: »

ose Tomas received a transfusion of 17 pints of blood ...
Tomas, one of Spain's most popular matadors, has a relatively rare blood type - A- -

He gets 17 pints of a rare blood type for being a dumbass?

Ali Babba · 25-04-2010 06:28PM

.............and the bull is being treated for horn stain so I believe........

df1985 · 25-04-2010 06:29PM

alwaysadub wrote: »

Ouch.
He's won't be messing with bulls again anytime soon

or his balls either!

--LOS-- · 25-04-2010 06:43PM

anyone who likes killing bulls for fun, enough to risk their own life, I don't feel sorry for.

It's unbelievable that bull fighting and bull running are still legal.

FlutterinBantam · 25-04-2010 06:44PM

minidazzler wrote: »

Depends really, I was routing for the bull.

Really!!

What route did you take?

Naos · 25-04-2010 06:47PM

Klingon Hamlet wrote: »

Correct me if I'm wrong..bullfighting involves riling a bull up with the red flag, before goring it in front of a bloodthirsty crowd.

Not wrong, but not fully informed - was going to type it up but found this instead:

- The animal is kept for a couple of days in a dark room, without water nor food to weaken it.

- The animal is hit with a sack of wet sand on his ribs and kidneys. This method is known among the bullfighters as "bajar al toro'' (weaken the bull).

- Vaseline is added into it's eyes to cloud the vision.

- Cotton is stuck in the bulls nose holes and throat to make it difficult to breathe.

- Very often, the tip of the bull horns get "shaved off", so they would not represent a big threat to the "brave" matador ...

- Laxatives are given to the bulls to make them more weak.

- If the bull is too weak after all these "treatments", then thinner (turpentine), is dropped on his hooves and genitals, so when the bull appears on the ring kicking and jumping, it is not because he is "furious" and "brave", but because he feels that his hooves and genitals are burning.

- Often also stab the bull testicles with knitting needles, to make them look "wilder and agressive".

- To complete their evilness, often has been reported that the wooden door that slides in an upward motion to release the tortured bull into the ring, is released to make it fall onto the bull's head, fisuring their skull just before going into the arena.

kraggy · 25-04-2010 06:47PM

Delighted.

--LOS-- · 25-04-2010 06:51PM

Klingon Hamlet wrote: »

Correct me if I'm wrong..bullfighting involves riling a bull up with the red flag, before goring it in front of a bloodthirsty crowd. If this is still the way it goes, then this is kind of karmic for the bullfighter...taste of his own medicine:D

So what happens during a bullfight?:
Firstly the bull is let into the ring. Then, the top bullfighter called the Matador, watches his chief assistant wave a bright yellow and magenta cape in front of the bull to make it charge. He watches this in order to determine the bull's qualities and mood, before taking over himself.

Then a trumpet is sounded and several fighters called Picadores weaken the bull by placing spears into it. This takes around 10 minutes.

Another trumpet is sounded and the Matador now removes his black winged hat and dedicates the death of the bull to the president or the crowd before beginning his faena.

The faena which is the most beautiful and skillful section of the fight and where the matador must prove his courage and artistry. The faena consists of a running at the Matador carrying a muleta. This is a piece of thick crimson cloth draped over a short stick, which can be held in either the left hand or draped over the espada, the killing sword, which is always held in the right hand. Usually the muleta, in left or right hand, is first held in front of the matador to make the bull charge and is then swung across and away from the matador's body hopefully taking the bull with it.

This is a show, basically a dance with death - one wrong move and the Matador could become impaled on the horns of the bull. It is the Matador's job to make this dance dramatic and enjoyable for the audience.

The faena continues until the Matador has demonstrated his superiority over the bull. Once this is achieved the bull is ready to be killed.

The matador stands some ten feet from the bull, keeping the bull fixated on the muleta and aims the espada between the shoulder blades. The matador attacks pushing the espada over the horns and deep between the shoulder blades. If the sword goes in to the hilt it is an estocada but if it hits bone it is a pinchazo or media-estocada. An estocada usually results in the bull dropping immediately to its knees and dying, but if the bull fails to die the matador may take the descabello (a sword with a short cross piece at the end) which he stabs into the bull's neck severing the spinal cord. The fight is over.

Correct.

Biggins · 25-04-2010 06:53PM

No sympathy for those that participate in this sport - that is except for the animal.

Ali Babba · 25-04-2010 06:59PM

--LOS-- wrote: »

Correct.

Pretty gruesome, how anyone could enjoy that is beyond me.

Dont be at yourself · 25-04-2010 07:00PM

In fairness, the bulls would not even be alive if it weren't for bull fighting. And while it's a not a nice way to die, they enjoy a fantastic life up until then.

bronte · 25-04-2010 07:05PM

I really, really cannot stand that "sport".
What's even worse is how these bullfighters are looked upon in spain....like royalty.
Seriously turns my stomach.

IvySlayer · 25-04-2010 07:10PM

Anyone who calls this a 'sport' I lose respect for.

--LOS-- · 25-04-2010 07:11PM

NekkidBibleMan wrote: »

In fairness, the bulls would not even be alive if it weren't for bull fighting. And while it's a not a nice way to die, they enjoy a fantastic life up until then.

I feel sorry for you that you don't have the post count of a troll.

Ruu_Old · 25-04-2010 07:11PM

<insert picture of chap with bull's horn up his arse> You know the one, google it.

Absurdum · 25-04-2010 07:15PM

hey I'm A- too but I wouldn't piss on him. Hope he dies

Dont be at yourself · 25-04-2010 07:21PM

--LOS-- wrote: »

I feel sorry for you that you don't have the post count of a troll.

I'm not trolling. The breed of bulls used in bull-fighting would not even exist were it not for bull-fighting. They are purposely bred for the sport, and they are looked after better than most livestock. Do you cry tears for the dead cow when you tuck into a steak dinner too?

Bull fighting brings joy to thousands of people all over the world. It's a sport steeped in tradition and culture, and I'm glad that it hasn't been banned on the whims of the limp-wristed, tree-hugging furry brigade.

Riddle101 · 25-04-2010 07:23PM

I wish I could say I feel sorry for the guy but I don't. He knows the risks of what he's doing, he's trained in it for years so I don't feel it's worth crying over tbh. The guy was just unlucky. He'll survive, but the sport will live on.

partyatmygaff · 25-04-2010 07:27PM

NekkidBibleMan wrote: »

I'm not trolling. The breed of bulls used in bull-fighting would not even exist were it not for bull-fighting. They are purposely bred for the sport, and they are looked after better than most livestock. Do you cry tears for the dead cow when you tuck into a steak dinner too?

Bull fighting brings joy to thousands of people all over the world. It's a sport steeped in tradition and culture, and I'm glad that it hasn't been banned on the whims of the limp-wristed, tree-hugging furry brigade.

Would you rather live to be (Replace animal/bull with you)

- The animal is kept for a couple of days in a dark room, without water nor food to weaken it.

- The animal is hit with a sack of wet sand on his ribs and kidneys. This method is known among the bullfighters as "bajar al toro'' (weaken the bull).

- Vaseline is added into it's eyes to cloud the vision.

- Cotton is stuck in the bulls nose holes and throat to make it difficult to breathe.

- Very often, the tip of the bull horns get "shaved off", so they would not represent a big threat to the "brave" matador ...

- Laxatives are given to the bulls to make them more weak.

- If the bull is too weak after all these "treatments", then thinner (turpentine), is dropped on his hooves and genitals, so when the bull appears on the ring kicking and jumping, it is not because he is "furious" and "brave", but because he feels that his hooves and genitals are burning.

- Often also stab the bull testicles with knitting needles, to make them look "wilder and agressive".

- To complete their evilness, often has been reported that the wooden door that slides in an upward motion to release the tortured bull into the ring, is released to make it fall onto the bull's head, fisuring their skull just before going into the arena.

and then be killed. Or to just not exist at all?

--LOS-- · 25-04-2010 07:28PM

NekkidBibleMan wrote: »

I'm not trolling.

Exactly, that's the sad part.

NekkidBibleMan wrote: »

The breed of bulls used in bull-fighting would not even exist were it not for bull-fighting. They are purposely bred for the sport, and they are looked after better than most livestock.

You're not going to convince me that there is some kind of humanity in a sport like that.

NekkidBibleMan wrote: »

Do you cry tears for the dead cow when you tuck into a steak dinner too?

No, coz I'm mostly veggie, not for moral reasons though but I don't believe in blatant, unwarranted cruelty to animals.

NekkidBibleMan wrote: »

Bull fighting brings joy to thousands of people all over the world. It's a sport steeped in tradition and culture, and I'm glad that it hasn't been banned on the whims of the limp-wristed, tree-hugging furry brigade.

Ignorant people imo, not worth my time of day.

partyatmygaff · 25-04-2010 07:29PM

--LOS-- wrote: »

No, coz I'm mostly veggie, not for moral reasons though but I don't believe in blatant, unwarranted cruelty to animals.

Not believing in blatant, unwarranted cruelty to animals IS a moral reason :pac:

df1985 · 25-04-2010 07:31PM

NekkidBibleMan wrote: »

I'm not trolling. The breed of bulls used in bull-fighting would not even exist were it not for bull-fighting. They are purposely bred for the sport, and they are looked after better than most livestock. Do you cry tears for the dead cow when you tuck into a steak dinner too?

Bull fighting brings joy to thousands of people all over the world. It's a sport steeped in tradition and culture, and I'm glad that it hasn't been banned on the whims of the limp-wristed, tree-hugging furry brigade.

its not far off it though, catalonia is the 1st province in spain to be now considering a ban, only a matter of time id say.

--LOS-- · 25-04-2010 07:34PM

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Not believing in blatant, unwarranted cruelty to animals IS a moral reason :pac:

In case it wasn't clear, that belief and my choice of diet are separate issues.

I am mostly veggie for non moral reasons, coz if you like, I'm selfish like that.

I don't condone blatant, unwarranted cruelty to animals, as in just for kicks, that's pretty sick.

Top bullfighter gored in Mexico

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