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Pamela Izevbekhai is still in Ireland! Why?

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  • #122
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,701 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Good post Micra.

    BTW, I have made it clear that IMO, Pamela is not the problem here. It is the mischievous Irish who are backing her, supporting her and launching appeal after appeal after appeal knowing full well that her case is a no win, and a fraud.

    She is simply a woman who desperately wants to remain in this country and I will be bluntly honest, she should be allowed to stay NOW, after all that has went on. Although I think the case is a fraud and all that, she has simply made the best of this situation and has been led to do this by mischievous folks. Our system is the real disgrace here, and it's people who run the system.

    As for her position. She certainly has/had has some influential and powerful backers thru all of this. Snakes in the grass, who in their hearts knew that they were backing a fraud, yet still they did it. Yes, Pamela is not the problem here.


  • #123
    Mushera
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11 ✭Mushera


    If this woman is allowed to remain in Ireland despite the invalidity of her case and the fact that she has presented fraudulent documentation it would make a complete mockery of our already laughable judicial system. She is unfortunate that the economy has collapsed during her efforts. I don't think in the current climate that there will be any public outcry if she is deported. Doubt she will go quietly however. On another note, this is certainly at this stage a test case and given the amount of money that has been spent all the i's must be dotted and all the t's crossed in order to NEVER LET IT HAPPEN AGAIN.


  • #124
    Hootanany
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,479 ✭✭✭Hootanany


    She should be deported straight away it is a disgraceful waste of money, Lawyers are walking left right and centre that must tell you something


  • #125
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,701 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Hootanany wrote: »
    She should be deported straight away it is a disgraceful waste of money, Lawyers are walking left right and centre that must tell you something

    They are the reason this is such a disgrace. They were the ones continually bringing it on, and even in walking, the offer up the lying claim of death traps, so in fact,. they are still giving Pamela a life line. They cannot even come out and admit that the reason they are walking is because the case is a fraud. They go and lie about death threats.


  • #126
    procure11
    Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭procure11


    walshb wrote: »
    Good post Micra.

    BTW, I have made it clear that IMO, Pamela is not the problem here. It is the mischievous Irish who are backing her, supporting her and launching appeal after appeal after appeal knowing full well that her case is a no win, and a fraud.

    She is simply a woman who desperately wants to remain in this country and I will be bluntly honest, she should be allowed to stay NOW, after all that has went on. Although I think the case is a fraud and all that, she has simply made the best of this situation and has been led to do this by mischievous folks. Our system is the real disgrace here, and it's people who run the system.

    As for her position. She certainly has/had has some influential and powerful backers thru all of this. Snakes in the grass, who in their hearts knew that they were backing a fraud, yet still they did it. Yes, Pamela is not the problem here.

    I kinda disagree with you on that. Interest groups have always existed and would continue to do so,some take up that role out of their percieved "social conscience" and others just to feel relevant in the society.
    If Jack the ripper was alive ,we will find millions of females and these days (males) writing love letters to him.

    It is the responsiblity of elected governments and a functional judiciary system to facilitate fair and decisive judgements on behalf of the populace.It is quite obvious that this case is gradually turning to a farce,simply because of " Political Correctness" and unfortunately the more the case drags on ,it would simply lay a very negative precedence for future cases.

    Let us address the facts,she lied about her situation and has been found out ,if she doesnt have the decency to go back,then the government should at least have the courage to do the right thing,blaming her supporters is a bit naive tbh.


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  • #127
    Papad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 220 ✭✭Papad


    procure11 wrote: »
    ...blaming her supporters is a bit naive tbh.

    No, it's not. Her supporters escalated the situation and encouraged her.
    You need to understand that it took a case like this to really open the eyes of the Irish populace of the 'cock-and-bull' stories made up by the vast majority of these Nigerian asylum seekers.


  • #128
    netwhizkid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,558 ✭✭✭netwhizkid


    Papad wrote: »
    No, it's not. Her supporters escalated the situation and encouraged her.
    You need to understand that it took a case like this to really open the eyes of the Irish populace of the 'cock-and-bull' stories made up by the vast majority of these Nigerian asylum seekers.

    Thats the bleeding heart liberals for you, as my father once said, give a dog enough rope and he will eventually hang himself!


  • #129
    shoegirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,093 ✭✭✭shoegirl


    aftermn wrote: »
    She is not paying for the representation, we are.

    Other convicted persons have over 80 previous, but are also 'facilitated' by our judges. Such 'facilitation' may suit the profession but does nothing for our society.

    I am not sure that the lady herself will be paid for representing herself at court, and I suspect the real reason (and fairly justifiable) that she has no longer any legal representation is because she is going to lose her case and they will have little hope of being paid unless costs are being met by FLAC or the state, which I suspect at this point they may not be. When she loses the case awards will probably be awarded against her.

    At which point, I suspect, she may very well disappear. :D

    That said FGM does appear to exist in parts of Nigeria, and is becoming an increasing problem here in Western States due to migrants bringing it with them, so I suspect it may vanish as a reason to leave in a couple of years time if increasing unofficial implementations of Shari'a laws make it far more common in the west than it appears to be right now.

    The irony of course, is that the west itself is no longer the refuge for escapees from Islamic fundamentalism it once might have been.

    I would suspect that the ladies previous supporters have already abandoned her in embarassment.


  • #130
    Coriolanus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,879 ✭✭✭Coriolanus


    shoegirl wrote: »
    I am not sure that the lady herself will be paid for representing herself at court, and I suspect the real reason (and fairly justifiable) that she has no longer any legal representation is because she is going to lose her case and they will have little hope of being paid unless costs are being met by FLAC or the state, which I suspect at this point they may not be. When she loses the case awards will probably be awarded against her.
    I don't think this is the case here. Generally Legal Aid isn't given in the kinds of cases that have costs awarded for/against people. Might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure.


  • #131
    K-9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,316 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    netwhizkid wrote: »
    Thats the bleeding heart liberals for you, as my father once said, give a dog enough rope and he will eventually hang himself!

    See the reverse of that is the oh so right wingers will use this case for their own ends.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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  • #132
    Papad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 220 ✭✭Papad


    K-9 wrote: »
    See the reverse of that is the oh so right wingers will use this case for their own ends.

    I have not seen or heard 'right wingers' taking advantage of this case.
    All that I am hearing is rational people saying that if she lied and cheated to get into the country, and she continues to lie in a court case costing the tax-payer over a half of million of euros already (not taking social welfare benefits into account), then she should be deported from the country.

    Claiming that people who hold this view as 'right wingers' or racist worked 6 years ago, but it does not work anymore.


  • #133
    K-9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,316 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Papad wrote: »
    I have not seen or heard 'right wingers' taking advantage of this case.
    All that I am hearing is rational people saying that if she lied and cheated to get into the country, and she continues to lie in a court case costing the tax-payer over a half of million of euros already (not taking social welfare benefits into account), then she should be deported from the country.

    Claiming that people who hold this view as 'right wingers' or racist worked 6 years ago, but it does not work anymore.

    Ach, it was only a reply to the "bleedin heart liberal" rant.

    It will be used by that element though, can't see how anybody can deny that.

    Oh PS. Never played the racist card. People often see it though.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • #134
    Sattwa69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 ✭Sattwa69


    .....and now here we are at the end of Feb and PIs case is put back again.
    The supreme court ask enquiring as to the validity of taking the case ending up there in at all.
    My fear is that if they roll the case back and determine the validity of her case BEFORE all the documentation was submitted, will this mean that the illegal documentation is not taken into account in the decision ??

    I have no doubt that when she loses the case the bleeding hearts will immediately clamour for her to stay on compassionate grounds.

    that of course is not before PI takes it to the European Court to stall another year or two and the kids are getting older all the time.

    Its a disgrace in how she is using those children to further her own selfish end.


  • #135
    profitius
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,976 ✭✭✭profitius


    Any updates in the case?


  • #136
    DonJose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,470 ✭✭✭DonJose


    profitius wrote: »
    Any updates in the case?

    The website that supported her is gone, the "supporters" let the domain expire and its been snapped up by a domain parking company.

    http://www.letthemstay.org/


  • #137
    barrackali
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 425 ✭✭barrackali


    Pamela Izevbekhai is back before the Supreme Court today, apparently for yet another "final" hearing. Will we ever get rid of this scammer, I'm sick to death of her lies, this fact has been backed up with her use of fraudulent documents. I'm really sick to death with this woman......now I suppose we can put the case back another year.


  • #138
    Sykk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,327 ✭✭✭Sykk


    tl;dr


  • #139
    barrackali
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 425 ✭✭barrackali


    Sykk wrote: »
    tl;dr


    What was that all about?


  • #140
    IvySlayer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,194 ✭✭✭✭IvySlayer


    Apparently she has 'new documents' to prove her FGM case.


  • #141
    Morlar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭Morlar


    IvySlayer wrote: »
    Apparently she has 'new documents' to prove her FGM case.

    I wonder is the ink dried on these ones yet.


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  • #142
    profitius
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,976 ✭✭✭profitius


    So how many million has she cost the Irish people? I doubt if she's too concerned about it.


  • #143
    AckwelFoley
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,556 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    barrackali wrote: »
    What was that all about?

    Its internet geek speak for:

    too long didnt read.


  • #144
    Max Power1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭Max Power1


    someone should really mutilate her - then she'll know what it feels like.Shes claimed to know of the effects all along whereas in reality she just wants to stay here fraudulently


  • #145
    Joe Musashi
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 470 ✭✭Joe Musashi


    Pamela Izevbekhai is still in Ireland! Why?

    Race


  • #146
    barrackali
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 425 ✭✭barrackali


    snyper wrote: »
    Its internet geek speak for:

    too long didnt read.

    Thanks, hadn't a clue about that one.


  • #147
    barrackali
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 425 ✭✭barrackali


    Joe Musashi wrote: »
    Pamela Izevbekhai is still in Ireland! Why?

    Race


    You might have a point, at the end of the day (and millions of our tax money), Pamela Izevbekhai has lost every single stage of this mad legal cycle ...what possible reason is there for this fraudster to still be here.

    P.C gone mad!


  • #148
    Kasabian
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭Kasabian


    If there is even the tiniest doubt that her daughter will be subjected to FGM in a country that it is carried out under Sharia law, are we not morally bound to protect this child.


  • #149
    barrackali
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 425 ✭✭barrackali


    lonad wrote: »
    If there is even the tiniest doubt that her daughter will be subjected to FGM in a country that it is carried out under Sharia law, are we not morally bound to protect this child.


    That woman is a terrible liar....that's the be all and end all. She is a fraudster, she is an economic migrant, not a genuine asylum seeker with something to fear back home. Her daughters will be prefectly safe in Nigeria. It's really sad that she has put those children through this, but the state can't back down...they need to be deported....the question is...will the Minister do it?


  • #150
    IvySlayer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,194 ✭✭✭✭IvySlayer


    lonad wrote: »
    If there is even the tiniest doubt that her daughter will be subjected to FGM in a country that it is carried out under Sharia law, are we not morally bound to protect this child.

    It's against the law to do it in Nigeria. She's a liar. A detective found out she lied about another child dying becuase of this.


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  • #151
    Kasabian
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭Kasabian


    IvySlayer wrote: »
    It's against the law to do it in Nigeria. She's a liar. A detective found out she lied about another child dying becuase of this.

    So it is against the law , that means it won't be done?

    Well how come it is documented that it is carried on on 25% of the female population in Nigeria.

    I am not questioning whether she should be deported , I am questioning the fact that we as a country cannot guarantee the children's safety and because of this have we a moral obligation to the child ?


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