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The Iceland Volcano Thread

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,150 ✭✭✭Deep Easterly


    he is showing leadership.... in other words if it's safe for him to fly it safe for everyone else:rolleyes:

    And of course, should the worse happen (God forbid), this guy will be completely blameless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭ShoulderChip


    very aviator-like


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,150 ✭✭✭Deep Easterly


    Just looking at the latest sat animation, was that plunge of high cloud suddenly shooting down from Iceland towards Ireland forecast?


    image.ashx?country=eu&type=zoom&format=640x480001001&rnd=610703

    If it does reach Ireland, I wonder would there be some dust incorporated within it?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    Carole Coleman, what time was she on and on what station ???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭bcmf


    Is Karen Coleman on Newstalk. Surely she didnt really say that....I mean not her .


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭Su Campu


    Just looking at the latest sat animation, was that plunge of high cloud suddenly shooting down from Iceland towards Ireland forecast?


    image.ashx?country=eu&type=zoom&format=640x480001001&rnd=610703

    If it does reach Ireland, I wonder would there be some dust incorporated within it?

    It's at around 30,000ft and is associated with a small jet streak as per the GFS below. As today's plume isn't reaching above 10,000ft I'd say there's no real chance of it being incorporated in the cloud.

    10041818_1818.gif


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 185 ✭✭M.Pool


    Karen Coleman interview being repeated on Newstalk 106 NOW!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭brian ireland


    Did I miss her comments yet 23.45?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,628 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    For those watchn the tv,Newstalk is sky 0210.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 185 ✭✭M.Pool


    a very short segment. I took the tone as pretty tongue in cheek.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭brian ireland


    M.Pool wrote: »
    a very short segment. I took the tone as pretty tongue in cheek.

    Is it over?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,829 ✭✭✭Rougies


    M.Pool wrote: »
    a very short segment. I took the tone as pretty tongue in cheek.


    Yes it was, she obviously didn't have a clue what questions to ask so resorted to tongue in cheek economical/financial questions and pathetic attempts at humorous ones.

    Simply just a waste of an interview. Not even worth listening to.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 vrhunski


    looks like something is wrong with graph
    http://hraun.vedur.is/ja/Katla2009/stodvaplott.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,214 ✭✭✭yellowlabrador


    http://freeinternetpress.com/story.php?sid=25398#top

    this is an interesting read, translated from der spiegel
    All that could change if Eyjafjallajokull awakens its larger brothers. The Katla volcano, barely 25 kilometers to the east, has enormously higher explosive power. It also has a rather nasty habit of erupting shortly after Eyjafjallajokull. The last major eruption of Eyjafjallajokull lasted for two years, ending in 1823 when Katla erupted like a massive cannon.

    Fire-Spewing Giant

    So far, Katla hasn't reacted - GPS stations haven't registered any movements in its slopes. But there's still another fire-spewing giant in the area - Heckla. "That volcano erupts, with a regularity that astonishes geologists, every 10 years," said Thomas Walter of the German Research Center for Geosciences (GFZ) in Potsdam. "It is long overdue."

    Such chain reactions are not uncommon for volcanic mountain ranges, especially in Iceland. "If one volcano erupts next to a neighboring one where pressure has also built up, then it can give it the decisive kick," said Walter; but he won't venture to predict when the next volcano will erupt./QUOTE]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    vrhunski wrote: »
    looks like something is wrong with graph
    http://hraun.vedur.is/ja/Katla2009/stodvaplott.html

    *Cue Roland Emmerich style scene with nerdy, bored scientist at remote outpost sipping coffee when an alarm goes off on his computer screen..."What the hell?! Oh my God..." *


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 vrhunski


    just look time of last update of that graph


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,816 ✭✭✭pebbles21




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭billy the squid




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,772 ✭✭✭woolymammoth


    http://en.vedur.is/about-imo/news/2010/nr/1881

    Iceland Met office say they're not detecting the plume. Is this it finishing up?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,592 ✭✭✭Tristram


    KLM Royal Dutch Airlines operated two commercial flights to the Far East on Sunday evening. There were no passengers on board these flights, which both carried cargo and the regular crew complement. The flights bound for Sharjah and Bangkok/Taipei were respectively operated by a Boeing 747 full freighter and a Boeing 747 combi. The Dutch aviation authorities granted KLM permission to operate these flights. Earlier on Sunday, KLM successfully operated nine test flights. None of these flights encountered any problems. According to KLM President & CEO Peter Hartman it is completely safe to operate flights during hours of daylight.
    All Intercontinental flights scheduled to arrive into Amsterdam Airport Schiphol on Monday April 19th are decided on a case by case basis, latest 4 hours prior to departure.

    Progress of a sort? I'm going to remain optimistic.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭Su Campu


    There's not much happening up there this morning....:)

    10.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Confab wrote: »
    That's a very blinkered view. This is not just about tourism. What about DHL, Fed Ex, UPC? They import and export billions of euro worth of products each year for our economy. Every day lost is a huge burden on them and the country in general. A high percentage of their imports are critical to our economy, such as industrial and medical equipment, pharmaceuticals, factory supplies, electronics etc.

    Bottom line, we can't do without air travel for long.

    Will you PLEASE stop accusing me of being "myopic" and "blinkered" and read what I am really saying?

    We may have NO CHOICE; and all the ranting and raving and wringing of hands is then to no avail.

    Nothing we can do.

    So why spend a lot of energy and emotion on this; rather find ways to adapt.

    I am sure that there are astute business men out there working ways to cash in on any crisis.

    As I have said before, adaptation means survival. Refusing to work at adapting means extinction.

    And please; we have many abandoned babies in our care... we will suffer if there is no air travel and babies will die. ALso much of our income from Ireland in in tourism.

    But we are working on alternative supply lines etc, and alternative ways to earn the means to feed our wee ones.

    And we will find that.

    The hysteria here is amazing, really. it is little compared with St Helena

    So please, read what is really in my posts! THANK YOU.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,606 ✭✭✭Jumpy


    Su Campu wrote: »
    There's not much happening up there this morning....:)

    10.jpg

    If anyone is interested in seeing where this webcam is situated, I have a picture of it below.

    mordor1.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Still erupting but the plume looks a lot lower and smaller than the last few days:

    http://eldgos.mila.is/eyjafjallajokull-fra-thorolfsfelli/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,789 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    Graces7 wrote: »
    We may have NO CHOICE; and all the ranting and raving and wringing of hands is then to no avail.

    Nothing we can do.

    That's what some computer models tell us. Planes that actually have flown through the ash cloud tell a different story.

    As always, the truth lies somewhere in the middle. Just so far there are no agreed ways to find the truth. The whole airspace closure is based on a theoretical model and not on facts and risk assessment.

    That has to change.


  • Posts: 22,785 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    peasant wrote: »
    That's what some computer models tell us. Planes that actually have flown through the ash cloud tell a different story.

    As always, the truth lies somewhere in the middle. Just so far there are no agreed ways to find the truth. The whole airspace closure is based on a theoretical model and not on facts and risk assessment.

    That has to change.
    Actually test flights through British and Irish air space have concluded that currently it is very dangerous over us.
    The ash elsewhere over Europe is dispersing nicely but we are still in a northerly bringing more of it down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,579 ✭✭✭Webmonkey


    Least there are signs showing a change. Hopefully Thursday flights will go now so I can get home


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,789 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    Actually test flights through British and Irish air space have concluded that currently it is very dangerous over us.

    Would you have a source for that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    BBC News :

    0934 The Press Association reports that thousands of UK airline workers could soon be laid off as a result of the crisis.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭alibabba


    Profit before People, the usual argument.

    RTE News:

    Airlines dissatisfied with ash response: IATA
    Monday, 19 April 2010 09:05
    The world's airlines are 'dissatisfied' with the way governments are responding to the volcanic ash cloud over Europe, the head of the International Air Transport Association said today.

    In recent days several European airlines have successfully staged test flights through parts of the ash cloud blowing south from Iceland, leading some to question whether the current flight bans are necessary.

    The IATA estimated yesterday that the biggest air traffic disruption since World War Two is costing the industry at least €150m a day in lost revenues in Europe alone.

    AdvertisementThe Irish Exporters' Association has said that €95m worth of exports were being held up every day by the continuing air restrictions. Chief executive John Whelan said exporters were hiring trucks to take goods to southern Europe where airports are still open.

    However, he added that valuable exports to the US and Asia were being seriously disrupted.


    Shares in the two Irish airlines were sharply lower in early trade this morning, with Aer Lingus dropping 8.7% to stand at 68.5 cent and Ryanair losing 3.6% to €3.75.

    It is estimated that the two airlines are losing over €7m a day as the volcanic ash cloud continues to cause travel chaos across Europe. About €28m has been shaved off the combine sales of Aer Lingus and Ryanair since the volcano erupted last week.


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