New Anti-Rape device - RapeAxe

Rape is not just a man shoving his penis where it is not wanted, it is a crime so violent that some women are left with injuries to their private parts for the rest of their lives. Yes yes yes to this device imho.

Maybe I have got this all wrong but I am quiet sure the serated plasitic teeth are to catch flesh...fingers or penis.

OutlawPete wrote: »

Way to take what I said out of context.

If you take away the fear of death argument, then that is what happens at that moment.

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I'm not taking anything you said out of context. I think that regardless of fear of death, which i personally find hard to believe could ever be absent from something as violent and intrusive as a rape, the act of rape itself, is so vile and disgusting as to justify anything the victim could possibly do to stop or prevent it, including killing the attacker.

And as another poster noted, even if that attacker was my friend or brother or someone like that then i would still have nothing but sympathy for the victim.

OutlawPete wrote: »

I don't agree.

If somebody is forcing themselves sexually on their partner, then blowing their head off is slight over-reaction as far as I am concerned.






If your brother (for instance) met some woman in a club and they were kissing etc and she said: "No, I don't want to..", but he proceeded to try and rape her, so she sticks a knife in his chest.

You would have no problem with that?



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So in this particular case you feel the rapist, should be allowed continue if the only means of stopping him was to shoot him? Are you f'ucking serious!

And as for the brother, i'd be relieved for the victim and ashamed of the brother. Certain things are absolutes, rapists are scum, brother or not.

K-9 wrote: »

I don't know, I got the impression of a rather naive, innocent girl that didn't realise what happened to her was wrong.

maybe she let someone take advantage of her, but she let them, so that's her responsibility. I'm a girl btw but I know and can't stand girls who cry rape.

Hrududu wrote: »

I hope I have you wrong because this sounds like you are blaming a woman for getting raped.

I think you have to look at the case I pointed out. This is a common thing too, there is a high rate of false rape accusations.

And I'm not blaming a woman for getting "raped", I'm questioning whether she was raped.

OutlawPete wrote: »

Precisely.

If your brother (for instance) met some woman in a club and they were kissing etc and she said: "No, I don't want to..", but he proceeded to try and rape her, so she sticks a knife in his chest.

You would have no problem with that?



I don't doubt that it can be and I excuse killing the perpetrator in some cases, no where near all though.



It's upsetting for me to read people trivialise the killing of another human that has no weapons, is not threatening to kill anyone.

If I am watching TV with some mates and they turn on me, punch me, headlock me, hold me down and I grab a knife and plunge it into their chests, killing one of them, I guarantee you I would do time.

Even though I would naturally be fearing for my life.

If my brother did something like that, and ended up getting killed, then obviously I would have mixed feelings, ie. I would be devastated that he was killed, but I would be more upset by the fact that he was that sort of person.

When a person is raping someone else, I don't think they clarify their intentions to their victim, and I would expect that a lot of rape victims would fear for their lives during the act. I would also think that they (the victims) are not thinking logically, and more than likely don't automatically blow their attacker's head off! I'd say what happens is they smash their head with a rock or something to that effect, just to stop the attack. So, in most cases where the victim kills their attacker (if not all), they killed them 'by accident', ie. they just wanted them to stop raping them, simple as. If a person is being raped, they aren't thinking of revenge, they're thinking "how the hell can I get out of this situation?!".

If they then go back and shoot the attacker in the head whilst they lie unconscious on the ground, then that's murder.

I don't know, maybe you have an example of a time where a victim used brute force against their attacker, and killed them? I'm genuinely interested if you do.

OutlawPete wrote: »

Shoot him in the leg or hold the gun to his head and say: "Get the **** off me.."

Why KILL him or her?.

You point the gun at him, there's a chance he knocks it out of your hand.
Shoot him in the leg, there's a chance it doesn't debilitate him enough.

Why should any victim have to take a chance like that, when a viable means of ending the attack has become available? Cos rapists are people too? Why?

Why should the victim have to care what happens the attacker? The attacker sure as f'uck doesn't care about them.

K-9 wrote: »

Hard to know if she is crying rape, I think she just didn't understand what was happening, it is Ulrika after all!

K-9 wrote: »

Ideally, yes, its a bit hard line though. I'd say some girls would have no problem fending of an attack or copping on what was happening, some wouldn't for different reasons like shock, fear etc.

hmm, tbh I don't really accept that if we're talking about adults. Definitely not in that case. But sure the point is these scenarios do happen, girls cry rape, rape is ill-identified, so to have the view that it's ok to kill a "rapist", whatever that definition of rapist might be in a given instance is to me ludicrous and chaos would ensue if that was the view of everyone.