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New Anti-Rape device - RapeAxe

  • 15-04-2010 9:52am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,399 ✭✭✭Bonito


    FOR POLL
    Do you agree that rapists deserve to have their member ripped to shreds should they try rape a woman with one of these inserted? Or is it too harsh a punishment?

    The new device was invented by Sonnet Ehlers, a woman working with rape victims in South Africa. The device is inserted in to the womans vagina and if attacked by a potential rapist it basically attaches itself to the attackers penis and tears in to it with razor sharp barbs which run up along the inside of it and it can only be removed by doctors.
    It is absurd that women and children In this day and age still fall prey to opportunistic sexual predators. When will they be empowered? When will they be heard? Never, it seems! There always appears to be a more important issue to be addressed in legislature. The tear-filled eyes and extreme vulnerability of one such rape victim is what sparked the design of this modern day invention. The victim looked up at Sonnet Ehlers and said, 'If only I had teeth down there!' These were the humble beginnings of a device which proves to bring hope to women all over the world - those women who still find themselves with little or no rights at all. Why does the system make these women, these victims, feel like the offenders? In many societies these women are treated like offenders! This must stop! It, in fact, stops here! Rape-aXe is a device which latches itself to the skin of the attacker, causing immense discomfort, allowing the victim to escape. The attacker is 'branded' a rapist! Since the attacker will need medical assistance, there is no escaping arrest since medical staff will alert the authorities.
    Linky:
    http://www.antirape.co.za/
    Pic of device:
    http://iscreamyouscream.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/rapex-condom4.jpg

    I just hope any of these women that use them and have a boyfriend or husband don't forget to remove them when they get home from a girly night out. :eek:

    What do you think? Good idead? Bad idea? About fúcking time something like this was introduced?

    Do rapists deserve the injuries caused from these devices? 284 votes

    YES they deserve it.
    0%
    NO it's too harsh a punishment.
    100%
    --Kaiser--nothingazezilKarl Hungusentropitony 2 tonejoolsveerStarkSeanehStokolandazberryGadgiespooky donkeyMorpheusomahaidpickarooneyBlistermanBodhanMike 1972vibe666 284 votes


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,130 ✭✭✭✭Kiera


    NO it's too harsh a punishment.
    Not harsh enough!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,945 ✭✭✭D-Generate


    Bad idea. I think the rapist would be likely to beat the crap out of the woman or kill her in such an incident.
    Also what about the transmission of blood if he has been lacerated?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    No fcuking way, what if a women wants to that anyway?

    She just has to say she did it cause he was raping her.

    Ban the fcuker.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,130 ✭✭✭✭Kiera


    NO it's too harsh a punishment.
    D-Generate wrote: »
    Bad idea. I think the rapist would be likely to beat the crap out of the woman or kill her in such an incident.
    Also what about the transmission of blood if he has been lacerated?
    Yeah the blood thing would be a problem but i dont think he'd even dream about kicking the crap out of her with the pain in his micky.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    This is not new, this device has been around for a couple of years.
    South Africa is the rape capital of the world. 25% of women have been raped by the time they reach 16.
    500,000 rapes a year calls for drastic action.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBXBtC-5Eko

    http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1906000,00.html
    South Africans received a horrifying measure of just how bad their country's rape crisis is with the release this week of a study in which more than a quarter of men admitted to having raped, and 46% of those said that they had raped more than once.

    The study, conducted by South Africa's Medical Research Council, reveals a deeply rooted culture of violence against women, in which men rape in order to feel powerful, and do so with impunity, believing that their superiority entitles them to vent their frustrations on women and children. The men most likely to rape, the researchers found, were not the poorest, but those who had attained some level of education and income. (See pictures of South Africa, Fifteen Years On.)

    Researchers interviewed 1,738 men of all race groups, in both urban and rural settings in the Eastern Cape and KwaZulu-Natal, provinces marked by high rates of AIDS and poverty, and the men answered questions about rape and HIV using small handheld computers in order to guarantee anonymity. Of those admitting rape, 73% said that they had committed their first assault before the age of 20. According to the researchers, many of the study's participants appeared to see no problem with what they had done. These findings, says Mbuyiselo Botha, a senior program advisor at Sonke Gender Justice, an advocacy group for abused women, "highlight the lack of remorse among men in our country, and also the attitude that women remain fair game for us." Men, says Botha, "continue to abuse even to the point of getting away with murder."

    South Africa has one of the highest incidents of reported rape in the world. The most recent statistics show that 36,190 cases of rape were reported to the police between April and December 2007, though experts believe that number only accounts for one out of nine cases. But the number of rape cases that make it to court — let alone result in a conviction — are far fewer.

    Researchers said that many of the perpetrators reported having bullied or been bullied. The study also underscores the huge divide between South Africa's liberal constitution, which enshrines the rights of women and children, and "the realities of a society where poverty, inequality and violence are rife."

    Gender advocates say that the 2006 rape trial of prominent politician Jacob Zuma was incredibly damaging to their cause. Zuma, who was elected President this year, was tried and acquitted of raping an HIV-positive family friend. He told the court that the woman had dressed provocatively, in a traditional wrap-around kanga, and that it was against Zulu culture for a man to leave a sexually aroused woman unsatisfied. (See a profile of South African president Jacob Zuma.)

    Zuma's plainspoken views as a polygamist and a traditionalist appeal to many men who feel adrift in a society that defines men by the material trappings they attain, says Aernout Zevenbergen, author of Spots of a Leopard, a book on masculinity in Africa that is soon to be released in English. "Rape is a signal of a society that is sick to the core," Zevenbergen says. He points to South Africa's long history of migrant labor, in which men left home to work in the mines, as having broken apart generations of families. This system set the stage, he says, "for an epidemic of young men who, in the absence of positive male role models, are now consumed by a sense of anger and entitlement."

    "What we have are the wounds of men creating wounds in women, creating wounds in children," says Zevenbergen. "Who is going to stop the vicious circle?"

    Read more: http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1906000,00.html#ixzz0lA5vFw4x

    This isn't on sale in western countries.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    Hmmm...your g/f just found out you cheated on her...doesn't let on she knows... then sticks this up her....would end badly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    NO it's too harsh a punishment.
    backdoor it is so


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,399 ✭✭✭Bonito


    NO it's too harsh a punishment.
    Kiera wrote: »
    Not harsh enough!
    Really? The only way the offender can have these removed is by a doctor. So he's going to have his penis ripped to shreds and be arrested on entry to the hospital.
    D-Generate wrote: »
    Bad idea. I think the rapist would be likely to beat the crap out of the woman or kill her in such an incident.
    Also what about the transmission of blood if he has been lacerated?
    AFAIK it's a sealed unit which is secured by the walls of the vagina. Plus I don't think anyone will be able to beat the crap out of their victim. Imagine it. You penetrate the girl and all of a sudden you wretch backwards because of immense pain. You pull the device with you and while you're busy contemplating WTF just happened your victim has ran off screaming for help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 957 ✭✭✭GrizzlyMan


    NO it's too harsh a punishment.
    OutlawPete wrote: »
    No fcuking way, what if a women wants to that anyway?

    She just has to say she did it cause he was raping her.

    Ban the fcuker.

    First Instance i agree with it, but very good point!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭we'llallhavetea_old


    NO it's too harsh a punishment.
    this is a tough one...

    i say yes, its a good idea, for genuine rapists, yes, fcuk them, they deserve it.

    i just hope it isn't misused.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,130 ✭✭✭✭Kiera


    NO it's too harsh a punishment.
    Bonito wrote: »
    Really? The only way the offender can have these removed is by a doctor. So he's going to have his penis ripped to shreds and be arrested on entry to the hospital.
    Good enough for him!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,811 ✭✭✭Gone Drinking


    /boner


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,591 ✭✭✭✭Aidric


    Thaedydal wrote: »
    This is not new, this device has been around for a couple of years.
    Correct. I remember reading about this a few years ago.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    I'm never again sending the soldier in first without a recon mission, just in case. :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,406 ✭✭✭PirateShampoo


    This is the stupidest device known to man, yes rapist deserve every bit of punishment due to them.

    But lets not forget some women are evil nut-cases who would take great pleasure in using one of these on a innocent guy thinking it to be funny because of some all men are bastards mentality they might have going for them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,399 ✭✭✭Bonito


    NO it's too harsh a punishment.
    Thaedydal wrote: »
    This is not new, this device has been around for a couple of years.
    South Africa is the rape capital of the world. 25% of women have been raped by the time they reach 16.
    500,000 rapes a year calls for drastic action.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBXBtC-5Eko
    I know it's not new. It has been in the pipeline for a couple of years yes, but it has only been patented and approved this year. So it's new in terms of bringing it to the market.
    TheZohan wrote: »
    Hmmm...your g/f just found out you cheated on her...doesn't let on she knows... then sticks this up her....would end badly.
    That'd be a horrible thing to do but I definitely agree that there would be some women who'd go to such an extent for revenge on a cheating BF.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,561 ✭✭✭Rhyme


    The inventor of the device comes across really badly when questioned on this, from what I gathered she feels that though the device might enrage a rapist to the point of killing the victim, the pain it causes them is worth it.

    Sick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,597 ✭✭✭anniehoo


    NO it's too harsh a punishment.
    D-Generate wrote: »
    Also what about the transmission of blood if he has been lacerated?
    Id be more concerned about the transmission of sperm to be honest...HIV and a baby. Nice!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    What if you forget to take it out before you see your gynecologist? :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,399 ✭✭✭Bonito


    NO it's too harsh a punishment.
    anniehoo wrote: »
    Id be more concerned about the transmission of sperm to be honest...HIV and a baby. Nice!
    You can contract HIV from infected blood, can't you?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,597 ✭✭✭anniehoo


    NO it's too harsh a punishment.
    Bonito wrote: »
    You can contract HIV from infected blood, can't you?
    Yes of course! But, if you're being raped id take my chances with just blood rather than semen thanks very much!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,130 ✭✭✭✭Kiera


    NO it's too harsh a punishment.
    anniehoo wrote: »
    Yes of course! But, if you're being raped id take my chances with just blood rather than semen thanks very much!
    You have choices if you get pregnant, you don't if you catch HIV.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,399 ✭✭✭Bonito


    NO it's too harsh a punishment.
    anniehoo wrote: »
    Yes of course! But, if you're being raped id take my chances with just blood rather than semen thanks very much!
    Oh sorry I understand your post now. :) You mean if your attacker had HIV you'd rather have him torn and bleed and give you HIV than be able to rape you and give you HIV and possibly end up pregnant?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,793 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    A horrendous device. It's going to change rape into murder.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    Yeah, it's been around for at least 10 years in SA. In 2 minds about it myself. There are other risks such as getting the crap kicked out of you. But sure if they do that, they probably would have done it anyway. At least this way they have a cut mickey for their troubles. And they can be more easily identifiable. It is a fairly barbaric and drastic response, but then again, wtf is rape? And with stats like Thaed posted...well...

    As for it being misused. That can happen with anything, can't it?

    I wonder if now before the raping, would the rapist check first to see if it's in there?


    I think I read in the same article that modern chastity belts are also an option. That may be safer and less drastic.


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    NO it's too harsh a punishment.
    Great idea in theory, but if it becomes popular, then surely rapists will know to expect it?

    So instead of a good 'ol raping, the poor unsuspecting girl gets a hiding, said device removed, and then gets raped.

    Plus, I imagine it would also leave a lot of rapists aiming for anal instead, which I imagine would be a lot more painful for ye olde woman than your average raping.


    analrapist.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,597 ✭✭✭anniehoo


    NO it's too harsh a punishment.
    Bonito wrote: »
    Oh sorry I understand your post now. :) You mean if your attacker had HIV you'd rather have him torn and bleed and give you HIV than be able to rape you and give you HIV and possibly end up pregnant?
    Yeah! Sorry didnt explain myself very well. And, Kiera while yes in theory we have choices in this country with regards pregnancy most of those 500,000 women in Sth Africa dont. HIV is rampant so i cant imagine how high HIV infected babies statistics are.

    Its a brutal device and to be honest its something i would never feel the need to get, but if i was a 16 yr girl and i had a 25% :eek::eek: chance of being raped id be changing my mind pretty swiftly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    Reminds me of that film 'Teeth'!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    Insurgent wrote: »
    Reminds me of that film 'Teeth'!

    Indeed :p



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    Bonito wrote: »

    Pic of Sonnet Ehlers
    http://www.aidshilfemainz.de/images/bilder/gesund/rapex.jpg
    (she should bask in the knowledge that she will never need to use the device)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,335 ✭✭✭✭UrbanSea


    NO it's too harsh a punishment.
    Stupid device. And about going to a hospital,aren't there meant to be thousands of black market doctors in south africa? So how many rapists are going to walk into an actual hospital to be picked up and arrested?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,399 ✭✭✭Bonito


    NO it's too harsh a punishment.
    bonerm wrote: »
    Pic of Sonnet Ehlers
    http://www.aidshilfemainz.de/images/bilder/gesund/rapex.jpg
    (she should bask in the knowledge that she will never need to use the device)
    http://www.killsometime.com/pictures/files/BeerGoggles.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    NO it's too harsh a punishment.
    If I was a woman in South Africa I'd like to have one of these. While my attacker was wincing with pain it'd give me some time to run slash his bloody neck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,012 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    Bonito wrote: »
    AFAIK it's a sealed unit which is secured by the walls of the vagina. Plus I don't think anyone will be able to beat the crap out of their victim. Imagine it. You penetrate the girl and all of a sudden you wretch backwards because of immense pain. You pull the device with you and while you're busy contemplating WTF just happened your victim has ran off screaming for help.

    Assumptions here that there will be one rapist. Group raping's are quite popular over there. Just ask nine out of ten people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    biko wrote: »
    If I was a woman in South Africa I'd like to have one of these. While my attacker was wincing with pain it'd give me some time to run slash his bloody neck.

    So you believe the punishment for rape should be murder?

    Or indeed, that it is okay for a woman to kill a man if she is being raped.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,807 ✭✭✭speedboatchase


    Woman: You lie there, I'll just slink into something a little more comfortable

    A few mins pass

    Man: I can hardly wait anymore, what's taking you so long

    Woman: Sorry there's this bleedin' rat trap in my gee, it's a huuuuuer to get ouh!


    Seriously though, what woman wants to wear that? And as has been said, having the rapist in extreme pain in that kind of close proximity to you is not where you want to be


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    So you believe the punishment for rape should be murder?

    Or indeed, that it is okay for a woman to kill a man if she is being raped.

    No to the first one, abso-frickin-lutely to the second one.

    Execution as a punishment after the fact is a little excessive, but if a woman has a chance to kill her attacker during a rape I say good on ya girl, you're very brave and I'm proud of you.

    Toss the corpse in a ditch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭punchdrunk


    NO it's too harsh a punishment.
    what's to stop an attacker just removing it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,130 ✭✭✭✭Kiera


    NO it's too harsh a punishment.
    punchdrunk wrote: »
    what's to stop an attacker just removing it?
    I dont think they do foreplay first.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭SV


    NO it's too harsh a punishment.
    punchdrunk wrote: »
    what's to stop an attacker just removing it?

    not an expert or anything but I don't think rapists engage in foreplay or much to actually notice something like that..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,807 ✭✭✭speedboatchase


    Zillah wrote: »
    No to the first one, abso-frickin-lutely to the second one.

    Execution as a punishment after the fact is a little excessive, but if a woman has a chance to kill her attacker during a rape I say good on ya girl, you're very brave and I'm proud of you.

    Toss the corpse in a ditch.

    Not sure I agree with the corpse disposal method (lime + a bathtub ftw) but I see where you're coming from, if someone is trespassing in your house or vagina you should let them have it*!

    *let them have it as in react with the full measure of your strength, not let them have your bits for enjoyment


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    So you believe the punishment for rape should be murder?

    Or indeed, that it is okay for a woman to kill a man if she is being raped.
    punishment for rape should be execution
    killing someonewho is trying to rape you is justifiable self defence in my opinion
    if someome tried to rape me they'd be pretty dead, i can't see why i should be in trouble for that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,469 ✭✭✭✭Ghost Train




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    NO it's too harsh a punishment.
    OutlawPete wrote: »
    So you believe the punishment for rape should be murder?

    Or indeed, that it is okay for a woman to kill a man if she is being raped.
    Yes, I do think that if a woman kills a man raping her the judge should be lenient.
    What do you think?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    NO it's too harsh a punishment.
    OutlawPete wrote: »
    No fcuking way, what if a women wants to that anyway?

    She just has to say she did it cause he was raping her.

    Ban the fcuker.

    Not a big foreplay man, are you Pete? :D

    If the bloke wasn't up to no good, he'd find the thing first i reckon.
    As far as i'm concerned anything that happens to a rapist is not bad enough. Worst scum on the planet in my opinion


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭punchdrunk


    NO it's too harsh a punishment.
    Kiera wrote: »
    I dont think they do foreplay first.
    SV wrote: »
    not an expert or anything but I don't think rapists engage in foreplay or much to actually notice something like that..

    Obviously if they know theses are on the market they'd check first :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    NO it's too harsh a punishment.
    If a rapist had his shaft carved with one of these yokes would he bleed to death.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 573 ✭✭✭rgt320q


    As a punishment? Perhaps. But punishments should never be allowed to be carried out by the victims.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    biko wrote: »
    Yes, I do think that if a woman kills a man raping her the judge should be lenient.
    What do you think?
    The onus is on the man to prove he wasn't raping her. If he's dead, then he's gotta be a rapist:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    biko wrote: »
    What do you think?

    I think it's ludicrous to say that if a woman murders a man while raping her, that it is fine and justifiable.

    He is NOT trying to kill a woman, he is shoving his penis in and out of her, why should he die? Why should he get his throat slashed?

    If a woman rapes a man or another woman, should she have her throat slashed too?


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