Dublin a world heritage site?

Blazer · 14-04-2010 07:57AM #1

Just reading the below and had to laugh,..how the frak does anything think Dublin is on a par with the Giant's causeway or the Burren etc?

What site do you think should be on the list?

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/magnificent-seven-battle-for-world-heritage-honour-2136431.html

Hagar · 14-04-2010 08:15AM

The only thing in Ireland worthy of that list is Brú na Bóinne.
The idea of comparing a bog to the Acropolis is cringeworthy. Are they never going to stop embarassing us?

Biggins · 14-04-2010 08:20AM

I don't see why Dublin shouldn't be on the list.
Given that its was originally founded by the Vikings and there were many settlements that were discovered there - not only showing Dublins historic past but with the objects found, showed the world the writings/drawings on artefacts of our ancestors. Dublin's history gives the world the opportunity to help learn stories/history onwards from that point about those that helped create it too.

Ironic too that "Dubh Linn" or "Black Pool" is now still based directly across from its British named counterpart to this day!

/Here endeth the lesson.

Dyr · 14-04-2010 08:31AM

lol tara should be a world heiritage site according to those gob****es yet they're sticking it in the middle of a roundabout.

Biggins · 14-04-2010 08:33AM

Bambi wrote: »

lol tara should be a world heritage site according to those gob****es yet they're sticking it in the middle of a roundabout.

Aaa well - that was only the seat of all our kings!
They don't want to give that insignificant place a bit of named publicity, then let the world see that a motorway was partly driven through it.

Goawd forbid, their stupidity would be exposed.

Hagar · 14-04-2010 08:42AM

Two words - Wood Quay.

bonerm · 14-04-2010 08:44AM

The site at Wood Quay might have been worth nominating for this accolade. ..... oh wait! :rolleyes:

dermothickey · 14-04-2010 08:46AM

you know the story lads it's all about money and tourism...bring em to dublin and we'll flleece their pockets

Mr Benevolent · 14-04-2010 08:54AM

There are Tesco carparks that have more heritage in them then Dublin city.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 14-04-2010 09:08AM

Biggins wrote: »

I don't see why Dublic shouldn't be on the list.
Given that its was originally founded by the Vikings and there were many settlements that were discovered there - not only showing Dublins historic past but with the objects found, showed the world the writings/drawings on artefacts of our ancestors. Dublin's history gives the world the opportunity to help learn stories/history onwards from that point about those that helped create it too.

Ironic too that "Dubh Linn" or "Black Pool" is now still based directly across from its British named counterpart to this day!

/Here endeth the lesson.

You could say most of that about a lot of cities in Scandanavia. Every city has it's heritage points and it's stories, but I don't think you can say that an enitre city should be on a heritage site.

Biggins · 14-04-2010 09:08AM

dermothickey wrote: »

you know the story lads it's all about money and tourism...bring em to dublin and we'll flleece their pockets

Meh!
Bring them to Ireland as a whole and we'll fleece their pockets!
Hang on, we are being fleeced too as well!

'Ere, who organised this cock-up of fleecing?
O' right - Fianna Fail are in charge. If fleecing is to be done they are the boy who know how to do it - mind you, how to screw it up too!

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

You could say most of that about a lot of cities in Scandinavia. Every city has it's heritage points and it's stories, but I don't think you can say that an entire city should be on a heritage site.

True somewhat but we got dibs on Greek astronomer and cartographer Ptolemy mentioning us first!

Le King · 14-04-2010 09:11AM

Not a hope

dermothickey · 14-04-2010 09:15AM

Meh!
Bring them to Ireland as a whole and we'll fleece their pockets!
Hang on, we are being fleeced too as well!

very very true I suppose the more tourists we have the more it will cost for a cup of coffee and the more the restaurant crowd will up their prices again.

syklops · 14-04-2010 09:37AM

Hagar wrote: »

The only thing in Ireland worthy of that list is Brú na Bóinne.
The idea of comparing a bog to the Acropolis is cringeworthy. Are they never going to stop embarassing us?

I disagree. The Ceide fields are in my opinioin quite important and often over looked from a historical point of view. A civilisation who lived and died out in Ireland over a thousand years before the Pyramids were built. Thats pretty impressive.

I do think putting dublin city on there is very lazy of them though. Maybe there are parts of historical value, but you really cant put an entire city particularly one the size of dublin as a heritage site.

Its a bit like picking your dream soccer team and picking Christiano Ronaldo, George Best, Nobby Styles, Wayne Rooney, and er, all the Juventus squad from 1998.

rossie1977 · 14-04-2010 09:52AM

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

but I don't think you can say that an enitre city should be on a heritage site.

the whole of venice, bath and verona are and most of budapest is

what happens in the case of most cities is their most historical area is given status

Hagar · 14-04-2010 09:54AM

We could nominate the street without the plastic sign.

Anyone?

Mr Benevolent · 14-04-2010 09:55AM

rossie1977 wrote: »

the whole of venice, bath and verona are and most of budapest is

what happens in the case of most cities is their most historical area is given status

Yeah, but they are attractive, well proportioned cities. Dublin is just ugly.

reprazant · 14-04-2010 10:17AM

Hagar wrote: »

The only thing in Ireland worthy of that list is Brú na Bóinne.
The idea of comparing a bog to the Acropolis is cringeworthy. Are they never going to stop embarassing us?

You mean the bog which contains the oldest known man-made field systems for farming which date from the stone age?

Sorry if it isn't as impressive as the Acropolis, but things which are about 2,500,000 years old tend to look a bit more shabby than things which are about 3,000 years old.

Hagar · 14-04-2010 10:29AM

What are you on about? There were no people in Ireland 2,500,000 years ago. There weren't any people anywhere.

We're talking 8,000 years ago max. Link.
Newgrange is about 5,000 years old Link

Ceide Fields may be a big thing in your parish, but in the big wide world it's only a few grooves and rocks in a bog.

Sykk · 14-04-2010 10:32AM

You lot don't realise how many people come here to see the ****.

People outside of the country generally love all that crap, not everyone hates your country as much as you do.

orourkeda · 14-04-2010 10:37AM

Confab wrote: »

There are Tesco carparks that have more heritage in them then Dublin city.

If they ever ever make a world heritage site in 1000 years for ignorant internet posts than you've sealed the deal already by suggesting that Dublin somehow lacks heritage.

Maybe you should get up off your hole and learn about it.

orourkeda · 14-04-2010 10:39AM

Confab wrote: »

Yeah, but they are attractive, well proportioned cities. Dublin is just ugly.

What improvements do you suggest or is there anything that you actually like about Dublin?

podgemonster · 14-04-2010 10:43AM

Dublin is probably the most unirish place in the whole of the Republic. Ruled by the British longer than another part and you can still see aspects of the rule today.

Green fields, celtic forts, famine graves, battle sites, castles, rural rugidness, crashed waves on an eroding coastline where ships have been sunk, passionate people who have trad session in their locals not because it will bring in tourists and leprechaun chasers but becasue that what the regulars want.

Dear old Skibbereen i think!

reprazant · 14-04-2010 10:44AM

Hagar wrote: »

Ceide Fields may be a big thing in your parish, but in the big wide world it's only a few grooves and rocks in a bog.

I'm from Dublin so no idea what you are on about in reference to parish.

What annoys me is people who seem to think that something has to look nice and big for it to be considered good, ignoring the historical significance of something.

But, hey, I guess the Burren and the Giants Causeway are also rubbish? Sure they are only bits of rock and grooves?

Hagar · 14-04-2010 10:46AM

Better planning laws. A respect for what we have and a firm commitment to lose no more of it to development. For instance the plan to knock down the houses in Moore St associated with the final hours of the 1916 Rising to make way for a shopping mall. In fact that whole street is a disgrace. It's fully of tatty bingo parlours and immigrant wig shops and the filth and dirt left daily by those market stalls would not be tolerated anywhere else in Europe. Only the Govt can take the initiative but will they?

Dudess · 14-04-2010 10:47AM

I feel Dublin shouldn't be a world heritage site because... no particular reason really, I'm just bound by an inexplicable urge to put down everything about Ireland.

orourkeda · 14-04-2010 10:50AM

Dudess wrote: »

I feel Dublin shouldn't be a world heritage site because... no particular reason really, I'm just bound by an inexplicable urge to put down everything about Ireland.

Youre not alone

kuntboy · 14-04-2010 12:49PM

Dudess wrote: »

I feel Dublin shouldn't be a world heritage site because... no particular reason really, I'm just bound by an inexplicable urge to put down everything about Ireland.

That's because you're oh-so-positive and "reasonable".

SuperGrover · 14-04-2010 01:02PM

blah blah... ireland is ****e... blah blah... everywhere else is great... blah... i'm so embarrassed... blah de fukin blah

Earthhorse · 14-04-2010 01:28PM

I don't really see how Dublin could be declared a world heritage site, not because I hate it, but simply because don't see it fulfilling the criteria outlined in the article. But it's hard to tell without knowing what comparative sites are already on the list.

Dudess · 14-04-2010 01:39PM

kuntboy wrote: »

That's because you're oh-so-positive and "reasonable".

Not particularly. I just don't see the point in having an inferiority complex for the sake of it.

I do of course see the point in criticising aspects of Ireland and Irish society where it's warranted.

Dublin a world heritage site?

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