being able to spell = being intelligent

Noreen1 · 13-04-2010 10:29AM

melekalikimaka wrote: »

not being a d1ck but i know people who claimed to have dyslexia... and in confidence told me it was to hide laziness.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article561912.ece

how does one get diagnosed?

A series of tests, covering a range of subjects, (Maths, Reading, Spelling, Problem solving etc.,) to assess the level and type of Dyslexia. My daughter was diagnosed at approx. 7 years of age, after I despaired of ever teaching her to read.
I really doubt that a young child would be diagnosed in error, it's an intensive series of tests.

Were the people you knew actually diagnosed with Dyslexia, or did they just claim to be Dyslexic?

Based on my own experience, Dyslexics are not lazy, they actually work very hard to attain the results that non-Dyslexic people take for granted.

I suspect that many Dyslexics are never diagnosed, for the very simple reason that a Dyslexic child tends to memorise an entire page of the reading book, to avoid embarrassment.
The teacher did not believe me when I told her my daughter had a problem, and she was an excellent teacher! I invited her to ask my daughter to read some earlier texts, and she was amazed!

If this can happen in a small rural school, where teachers know their pupils and their families personally, how much more often might it happen in large schools, where there is not the same level of interaction? I don't pretend to know the answer, but I rather suspect that some children may go undiagnosed.

Noreen

Dudess · 13-04-2010 10:35AM

I hate when people are skeptical of dyslexia - I see it more often than not here.

Also, plenty of superb examples of Muphry's Law on this thread.

OutlawPete · 13-04-2010 10:40AM

Dudess wrote: »

I hate when people are skeptical of dyslexia - I see it more often than not here.

Not just Dyslexia, people tend to be skeptical of a whole range of disorders they can't see.

A lot of ignorant people around who like to comment on things they no nothing about.

speedboatchase · 13-04-2010 10:42AM

In forums I think if someone's post has numerous spelling errors or is poorly written (run-on sentences which becomes run-on paragraphs for example) I don't really have time for it. In professionally written articles I have zero tolerance for these mistakes (I stopped reading a movie review last week after the reviewers wrote "acception"). Finally in Facebook I have a little bit more leniency but anyone that writes LiKe D1s or fills their post with smileys will go on my ignore list.

I think a lack of correct spelling somewhat indicates a lack of intelligence, or perhaps it's just laziness. It depends on how basic mistakes they make might be - I'm starting to see a lot of people writing "loose" instead of "lose" which is pretty grating

pickarooney · 13-04-2010 11:20AM

This has been bugging me for all of 4 minutes. What song featured the line:
ya listen raggamuffin he intelligelent ?

Shivers26 · 13-04-2010 11:26AM

I have 98th percentile spelling and grammar and I would consider myself fairly intelligent. However, I am useless at mental arithmatic. It takes me ages to work out basic maths problems in my head. Ironic really, since I am an accountant. Calculators and excel make you lazy.

My boyfriend has really bad spelling. It would be more simple mistakes than anything. Been instead of being, I be instead of I will be are just some examples. Its very strange though as he often spells bigger words correctly. His punctuation is also non existent. He uses commas instead of full stops and I don't think he knows what a question mark is. However, he is amazing at history and maths.

I also have two friends who are both scientists and neither can spell to save their lives.

I guess my point is, some people are just not great at spelling. It doesnt mean they are stupid. They may excel in another area.

Seriously, my nerves are in ribbons writing this post for fear there will be a spelling mistake in it

TheZohanS · 13-04-2010 11:31AM

Shivers26 wrote: »

I have 98th percentile spelling and grammar and I would consider myself fairly intelligent. However, I am useless at mental arithmatic.

Awesome.

Shivers26 · 13-04-2010 11:46AM

TheZohan wrote: »

Awesome.

Feck!

stovelid · 13-04-2010 11:53AM

Shivers26 wrote: »

Seriously, my nerves are in ribbons writing this post for fear there will be a spelling mistake in it

You should really say that you're in the 98th percentile, rather than you have 98th percentile. :pac:

I think.

Fuck - this Murphy's Law stuff is nerve-wracking.

Herbal Deity · 13-04-2010 11:57AM

stovelid wrote: »

You should really say that you're in the 98th percentile, rather than you have 98th percentile. :pac:

I think.

Fuck - this Murphy's Law stuff is nerve-wracking.

Muphry's law.

stovelid · 13-04-2010 11:59AM

Herbal Deity wrote: »

Muphry's law.

See?

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 13-04-2010 12:48PM

People are really taking this seriously... lol.

If somebody cannot spell, it doesn't mean they are not intelligent. Especially words that are not used every day. A lot of people do not read, write or type on a regular basis. It's not such a big deal. While I try to spell everything to the best of my ability, I am sure I have made mistakes in this paragraph. Thing is, if people are really getting worked up about it, then the problem lies with that person

Sort yourself out before you pass judgement. :cool:

genericguy · 13-04-2010 01:00PM

stovelid wrote: »

You should really say that you're in the 98th percentile, rather than you have 98th percentile. :pac:

In this case "have 98th percentile" is correct.

Intothesea · 13-04-2010 01:35PM

Would it not be hyphenated as a compound adjective? '98th-percentile reading' :pac: Grammar navel-gazing is mostly a waste of energy unless it's a professional writing effort, I think. As for correlation with intelligence, persistent sloppiness probably tells some kind of story. Though I think for an all-text medium like this the story is less likely to be general slowness than it is for the general population.

Earthhorse · 13-04-2010 01:41PM

Intothesea wrote: »

Would it not be hyphenated as a compound adjective? '98th-percentile reading' :pac: Grammar navel-gazing...

And how should one handle a smiley in a sentence?

Surely there should be a fullstop before the pac smiley? But that might imply the pac smiley was part of the next sentence when it is clearly an addendum to the first. Better off putting a new paragraph in after it, I suspect, in order to avoid any confusion.

It's a brave new world.

Intothesea · 13-04-2010 01:45PM

Earthhorse wrote: »

Hiss! Miaoww!!

Quite the non sequitur there, Earthorse. I'll take it you're not sure on the compound-adjective rule then? :pac:

Earthhorse · 13-04-2010 01:49PM

Intothesea wrote: »

Quite the non sequitur there, Earthorse. I'll take it you're not sure on the compound-adjective rule then? :pac:

It's Earthhorse.[/dodge]

Intothesea · 13-04-2010 01:53PM

Earthhorse wrote: »

It's Earthhorse.[/dodge]

I hope the result was worth the exertion.

opinion guy · 13-04-2010 02:07PM

phasers wrote: »

Are you calling yourself stupid?

Wow. i guess phasers are set to ............Killllllllll!!!!!!

Manic Moran · 13-04-2010 04:13PM

Over the course of my travels, I have encountered a large number of illiterate, ill/uneducated individuals who are some of the sharpest, smartest folk I'll ever come across. Tribal leaders in Afghanistan, for example.

If you are educated and fail to spell/use grammar correctly, it is an indicator of a lack of pride or self-discipline, not intelligence.

NTM

ChocolateSauce · 13-04-2010 04:50PM

Is it a measure of intelligence? No. People who spell properly can be idiots too.

Are people who can't spell and use text speak usually stupid? Eh.....you decide. More often than not, yes, but sometimes they just haven't been properly educated. Laziness is annoying as hell though.

opinion guy · 13-04-2010 05:11PM

ChocolateSauce wrote: »

People who spell properly can be idiots too.

Its true!!! I saw it in a movie once!

cock robin · 13-04-2010 09:51PM

Kiera wrote: »

Yeah I totally get that. I'm the same.

In saying that, I by no means think dyslexic people are stupid in any way (just to clear that up, in case i'm taken up wrong).

Einstein and many other great intellectuals were in actual fact dyslexic so lets keep it real.

opinion guy · 13-04-2010 10:12PM

cock robin wrote: »

Einstein and many other great intellectuals were in actual fact dyslexic so lets keep it real.

Whats the word for it when you completely fail to comprehend what the other person said ?

MaybeLogic · 13-04-2010 10:13PM

opinion guy wrote: »

Whats the word for it when you completely fail to comprehend what the other person said ?

It's a quarter past ten.

Nevermind_ · 13-04-2010 10:31PM

cock robin wrote: »

Einstein and many other great intellectuals were in actual fact dyslexic so lets keep it real.

einstein dyslexic? Afaik thats a bit of a myth, he was never diagnosed in his lifetime and the myth arose long after his death.
its really just a theory

discussion of it here
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=114700

Son Of A Vidic · 14-04-2010 09:50AM

melekalikimaka wrote: »

learn quickly and learn from experience... except when it comes to spelling :rolleyes:

Precisely! In my my OP, you'll note spelling was not included in the definition of intelligence I quoted. Clearly because it's not relevant and has no bearing on a person's intelligence, or indeed as an indicator of same.

stovelid · 14-04-2010 09:55AM

opinion guy wrote: »

Whats the word for it when you completely fail to comprehend what the other person said ?

Deaf?

mcmoustache · 15-04-2010 06:03AM

On a website like here, all we have to judge somebody on are their posts( and maybe details from their profile). That's it. We don't know what they're like in the pub or at work or how well they can find their asses with their hands tied behind their respective backs.

So if I see "lose" and "loose" mixed up or "they're" and "their" or "your" and "you're", then I think it's fair to think of this poster as a bit of a simpleton. First of all, if they've read any books, they will have encountered these words all the time in the proper contexts. Second, I'm sure they must have been corrected on them by teachers and grammar nazis. And third, I don't know these people personally. I don't know anything about them except their posts. I feel the same about other consistent mis-spellings.

Typos, on the other hand are just that. Anyone can make them.

I'm not even going to comment on text-speak.....

As for dyslexia, It's stupid to assume that poor spelling is the result of dyslexia. According to their associations, between 10 and 15 percent of people have the condition. That means that 85 to 90 percent don't. So if you see consistently poor spelling, it makes more sense to assume that the person is either simple or a child. You should only assume that someone is dyslexic if you have some other evidense besides poor spelling. Sure half the people in AH can't spell and only a quarter of them can be dyslexic.

So, in conclusion, poor spelling = 85% chance of being a moron, 15% chance of being dyslexic.

mcmoustache · 15-04-2010 06:04AM

opinion guy wrote: »

Whats the word for it when you completely fail to comprehend what the other person said ?

Foreign?

being able to spell = being intelligent

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