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17 year old stabs 7 people in Drogheda! (Mod warning post #68)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭Chorcai


    My reasons to move back to Cork are mounting up ! I hope I don't know any of them. Drogheda is getting worse by the day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    In fairness I dont want some bloke feeling me up whenever I go into a bar/club whatever.

    That's not what you said last night .. :p


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Should the licencing laws be changed so that more places over a certain number maybe have these installed and staffed?

    http://www.tradeeasy.com/supplier/617826/products/p1087825/walkthrough-metal-detector.html

    All it would take was one bouncer standing beside it to ensure no possible soone drunk (or not) nutters come in, get argumentative and take their vengence out on innocent people?

    Just a question thrown out there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31 Hair Ball


    How did he even get into the pub?Are there no Bouncers in Drogheda or are the licensing laws different there to the rest of the country?

    Pu-licking ,I mean the publican's are business men and woman they only care
    about making money not saving lives look at the hassle over the smoking ban
    they said all pubs would close down,they should ban :(:(all knives from bars
    drink out of plastic cups or better still make a example out of this bar and close
    it down :cool:


    no he was not black nor the people he stabbed ,but he dose get a good color


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 152 ✭✭kittenz


    Sure just a week or so ago a woman was stabbed in the face in Drogheda.

    It was almost a month ago the woman was stabbed, and she wasn't stabbed in the face!

    Hope all the boys who were injured are alright.

    Its getting scary now how many stabbings are taking place on the streets, not just Drogheda, but everywhere....


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 462 ✭✭SlabMurphy


    Biggins wrote: »
    Should the licencing laws be changed so that more places over a certain number maybe have these installed and staffed?

    http://www.tradeeasy.com/supplier/617826/products/p1087825/walkthrough-metal-detector.html

    All it would take was one bouncer standing beside it to ensure no possible soone drunk (or not) nutters come in, get argumentative and take their vengence out on innocent people?

    Just a question thrown out there.
    I don't know why people are expecting the bouncers to sort this kind of thing out. The scumbag could have gone into the pub sober, had a few pints ( and maybe some other substances ) in the pub and then armed with booze induced ' courage ' went on his stabbing spree.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31 Hair Ball


    Hank_Jones wrote: »
    Just heard on the radio that the group involved were aged between 16 and 30.

    One 16 year old has been transferred to the Mater in Dublin and is in critical condition.

    Scumbag.

    Let's hope he gets better, before we call him names :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭digme


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    Is any of them black?

    If not, I doubt anyone other than their families will care tbh.
    hate to say it but Ireland and immigration it's our own fault,it will be like the uk soon.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    SlabMurphy wrote: »
    ...The scumbag could have gone into the pub sober, had a few pints ( and maybe some other substances ) in the pub and then armed with booze induced ' courage ' went on his stabbing spree.
    Good chance thats what exactly happened. At least when he came out, he would have been knife-less.

    If your going to operate a place that supplies substances that can alter peoples personalities and/or acts as a catalyst to increase one side of a personality, the question arises within the legal confines of "legal duty of care" alone, should more be done now more to?

    After all we have the technology to help improve things! Why not use it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 338 ✭✭MightyMighty737


    digme wrote: »
    hate to say it but Ireland and immigration it's our own fault,it will be like the uk soon.

    What does immigration have to do with this?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Bigdeadlydave


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    That's not what you said last night .. :p
    I made an exception for you pete!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 181 ✭✭Exon


    This youth should serve life without.

    I'd love to see him try to stab me, he'd get a hollow point slug right between the eyes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,581 ✭✭✭TouchingVirus


    digme wrote: »
    hate to say it but Ireland and immigration it's our own fault,it will be like the uk soon.

    If you go around spouting that then I suppose your name is quite apt, I'd say you'd get a few takers. You get a point for bringing in an unrelated topic to this thread, good man :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    I made an exception for you pete!

    Actually, your username had me thinking twice about making that joke :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 462 ✭✭SlabMurphy


    Biggins wrote: »
    Good chance thats what exactly happened. At least when he came out, he would have been knife-less.

    If your going to operate a place that supplies substances that can alter peoples personalities and/or acts as a catalyst to increase one side of a personality, the question arises within the legal confines of "legal duty of care" alone, should more be done now more to?

    After all we have the technology to help improve things! Why not use it?
    Look, how many people go into a pub for a drink, leave and don't go on a stabbing spree ? Literally millions in Ireland alone in a single week. Now as unfortunate as this incicdent was in Drogheda last night, their's no point trying to make out that they should have airport type metal detectors and body searches by the bouncers on every pub in the country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31 Hair Ball


    Exon wrote: »
    This youth should serve life without.

    I'd love to see him try to stab me, he'd get a hollow point slug right between the eyes.

    O no nutter's with knives is one thing, but fruit cakes with guns, it won't be worth going for a pint any more, bit like Limerick :rolleyes:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    SlabMurphy wrote: »
    Look, how many people go into a pub for a drink, leave and don't go on a stabbing spree ? Literally millions in Ireland alone in a single week. Now as unfortunate as this incicdent was in Drogheda last night, their's no point trying to make out that they should have airport type metal detectors and body searches by the bouncers on every pub in the country.
    I'm not to be honest but the hand-held equipment also is there to find these weapons too.
    Every place having a door frame detection system is unworkable and costly.
    Being able to halt someone for a second (who they might think looks suspicious) though for a second or two while they are sweeped, might lessen later problems though, its just a thought.

    In the cases where certain pubs (through the courts maybe) have been shown to be regular trouble spots for example, maybe the courts can ask for these devices to be used?
    Just an idea thrown out there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 437 ✭✭wobzilla1


    My sister was meant to go to Drogheda last night but decided not to at the last minute. Your man had an arguement on Lawrence street but actually ran down onto West street to stab random people. A few of my sister's friends were in the group that he attacked


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Bigdeadlydave


    The chances are the bouncers/gardai know the people who are likely to cause trouble.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 647 ✭✭✭DingChavez


    major bill wrote: »
    what you on about??

    if they get searched going in at least if they are carrying they have nothing inside yea ok thats not to stop slashing someone with a bottle but if they get found with a knife they get told to fcuk off and have nothing on them.

    deal with it?? why should ppl have to deal with it they go out to enjoy themselves they shouldnt have to deal with some little chav that cant handle his p1ss stick a blade into them.

    I'm saying bad things happen. Draconian security that targets everyone isn't the right way to stop this stuff. It will just piss people off. Just give bouncers a bit more training. Don't take it out on the general population.

    I think security should be based on intelligence not zero tolerance rules and screenings that target everyone and their granny.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    BAN DA HEAD SHOPZ


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,260 ✭✭✭Elessar


    Computer games caused this!! :mad:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Who was wishing harder that is was going to be a boon for their side the anti-head shop people or the racists?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 741 ✭✭✭therewillbe


    I was up there yesterday afternoon and outside the church on weststreet was about 8/10 wannabe heads OUT of their heads .Now remember this was around 3 in the afternoon ,Where were the Cops? Enjoying their smoothies on the other side of the street FFS.Yes I have noticed that Drogheda is getting a lot more dangerous of late.I saw a pack of hooded skangers chase 2 lads accross a bridge beside Scotch Hall and kick the crap out of them.It is getting worse and My Family are barred from Shopping up there without ME!Sad aint it but thats the way its gone. :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭Hank_Jones


    rovert wrote: »
    BAN DA HEAD SHOPZ

    Run by de fordeigners.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 711 ✭✭✭Dr_Phil


    I was up there yesterday afternoon and outside the church on weststreet was about 8/10 wannabe heads OUT of their heads .Now remember this was around 3 in the afternoon ,Where were the Cops? Enjoying their smoothies on the other side of the street FFS.Yes I have noticed that Drogheda is getting a lot more dangerous of late.I saw a pack of hooded skangers chase 2 lads accross a bridge beside Scotch Hall and kick the crap out of them.It is getting worse and My Family are barred from Shopping up there without ME!Sad aint it but thats the way its gone. :mad:
    That's what's unfortunately going to happen to the vast majority of similar towns, quickly developed during the boom. Now, I'm not surprised why the property prices fall dramatically in places like Drogheda, I would't like to get a house there for free. But that's for another thread..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,786 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    Biggins wrote: »
    In the cases where certain pubs (through the courts maybe) have been shown to be regular trouble spots for example, maybe the courts can ask for these devices to be used?
    Just an idea thrown out there.
    Or they could just withdraw their licences?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,738 ✭✭✭BigEejit


    Chorcai wrote: »
    My reasons to move back to Cork are mounting up ! I hope I don't know any of them. Drogheda is getting worse by the day.
    Are you serious?

    Maybe somewhere rural, but Cork town* itself has a higher than average quantity of scumbags that Galway or other places if anything.




    * dont get me started on the "we have a cathedral so we automagically become a city" .... Skibbereen has a cathedral too - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cathedrals_in_Ireland

    And according to this, Kilkenny is a city too! : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_in_Ireland


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 711 ✭✭✭Dr_Phil


    digme wrote: »
    hate to say it but Ireland and immigration it's our own fault,it will be like the uk soon.
    It's not the immigration, its the way YOU rule your country, your courts and your Gards. It's your law. If you prefer to choose a way of "closed eyes" and "tolerance" for all the crimes, drugs, hooded youngsters at night on the street - don't be surprised you wake up on day in total chaos. And don't blame immigrants then, because I'm one of them and I have never caused any single problem in Ireland or elsewhere.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    1st wrote: »
    Or they could just withdraw their licences?
    In extreme cases, yes, but in others before that extreme has to be necessary, alternative ways can be sought too before just putting the boot into a business in fairness.


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