What's With This Rally In Dublin on Saturday?

I Drink It Up! · 09-04-2010 01:51PM #1

Young lad was stabbed and now Gay/Lesbians/Unions/Plough-and-Star types have been invited to bring their banners to the GoR for a march on the Dail. What's the purpose of this?

Danbo! · 09-04-2010 01:53PM

Probably to show that the country is fed up with prejudice, and wishes all racists/homophobes would just FOD.

I Drink It Up! · 09-04-2010 01:55PM

Stee wrote: »

Probably to show that the country is fed up with prejudice, and wishes all racists/homophobes would just FOD.

Oh right.

And how do they now hope the two lads who allegedly killed him will now have a fair trial, given that they are basically announcing, of their own accord, that his killing was racially motivated?

Fuhrer · 09-04-2010 01:55PM

What about the people who are sick of rallys runing their day?

stevoman · 09-04-2010 01:56PM

I thought thi thread was something to do with motoring.

Nodin · 09-04-2010 01:58PM

I Drink It Up! wrote: »

Oh right.

And how do they now hope the two lads who allegedly killed him will now have a fair trial, given that they are basically announcing, of their own accord, that his killing was racially motivated?

Well it was the Gardai that first brought the racial motive to light, so maybe you should take it up with them......

I Drink It Up! · 09-04-2010 01:58PM

Fuhrer wrote: »

What about the people who are sick of rallys runing their day?

My guess is it will be a big nothing, some Trotksyite will do all the talking, 200 of them will leave the GoR and there will be 8 of them left by the time they reach the Dail, having been sucked into the houses of sin along the way.

These yobs are basically hijacking this chaps plight to to try and make some sort of a Lawrence case out of this.

They thrive off this kind of thing, it helps keep them relevant. If they really wanted to help they would say nothing and do less that would prejudice the trial. If the killers have a chance of getting off, its by saying their trial was prejudiced.

I Drink It Up! · 09-04-2010 01:59PM

Nodin wrote: »

Well it was the Gardai that first brought the racial motive to light, so maybe you should take it up with them......

Gardai use powers all the time to make arrests and detentions. Sure you could be held under the Offences Against The State Act and never charged.

Nodin · 09-04-2010 02:00PM

I Drink It Up! wrote: »

These yobs are basically hijacking this chaps plight to to try and make some sort of a Lawrence case out of this.

The Stephen Lawrence case involved institutional racism on behalf of the Metropolitan police.....theres no comparison.

Kiera · 09-04-2010 02:00PM

People dont know the full story about this. There are two sides to every story. Having a rally is a bit much tbh.

Nodin · 09-04-2010 02:01PM

I Drink It Up! wrote: »

Gardai use powers all the time to make arrests and detentions.

What? Like x-ray vision and the ability to fly?

biko · 09-04-2010 02:01PM

Anyone a link to this story?

RMD · 09-04-2010 02:02PM

My guess is any form of group within Irish culture who could possibly be discriminated against were invited to this rally to show the Dail their opinion, damn right as well.

I Drink It Up! · 09-04-2010 02:02PM

Nodin wrote: »

What? Like x-ray vision and the ability to fly?

No, like powers of arrest and detention, silly.

Danbo! · 09-04-2010 02:02PM

Nodin wrote: »

What? Like x-ray vision and the ability to fly?

Not anymore, more like Go Go Gadget, erm, handcuffs. God damn budget cuts.

I Drink It Up! · 09-04-2010 02:03PM

RMD wrote: »

My guess is any form of group within Irish culture who could possibly be discriminated against were invited to this rally to show the Dail their opinion, damn right as well.

Sure that could be anyone and everyone.

Just admit it...when a black person dies, it's racial.

peabutler · 09-04-2010 02:03PM

Their must have been racial tension in the area otherwise they would not have had a local Racial Equality officer or whatever they call it in the area.

I Drink It Up! · 09-04-2010 02:03PM

peabutler wrote: »

Their must have been racial tension in the area otherwise they would not have had a local Racial Equality officer or whatever they call it in the area.

Tyrrelstown...that bastion of racial hatred and infernal race wars.

peabutler · 09-04-2010 02:03PM

I Drink It Up! wrote: »

Sure that could be anyone and everyone.

Just admit it...when a black person dies, it's racial.

That's a stupid uninformed post.

rubensni · 09-04-2010 02:03PM

I Drink It Up! wrote: »

Gardai use powers all the time to make arrests and detentions. Sure you could be held under the Offences Against The State Act and never charged.

for 72 hrs tops, and they need the say so of a Chief Superintendent and the District Court for the 2nd and 3rd 24 hour periods.

rubensni · 09-04-2010 02:06PM

I Drink It Up! wrote: »

Tyrrelstown...that bastion of racial hatred and infernal race wars.

Apparently there's tension there:
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2010/0409/1224267967713.html

Nodin · 09-04-2010 02:08PM

I Drink It Up! wrote: »

Sure that could be anyone and everyone.

Just admit it...when a black person dies, it's racial.

It is when the accussed has a conviction for a previous racial attack.

I Drink It Up! wrote: »

Tyrrelstown...that bastion of racial hatred and infernal race wars..

Neither of the accussed are from the area.

I Drink It Up! · 09-04-2010 02:09PM

rubensni wrote: »

Apparently there's tension there:
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2010/0409/1224267967713.html

Yeah, most of it a work of the pen of Brid Ni Chonaill, it seems. I wonder if she is related to Aine Ni Chonaill.

The attempt to create some sort of Missisipi Burning complex is awkward and brutish.

22%.....a fraction of whom are nigerian....and why are they referring to the young man as Nigerian...he was 11 years in Ireland......

I Drink It Up! · 09-04-2010 02:10PM

Neither of the accussed are from the area.

Bingo.

But the Press and the Trots want you to believe it was an internecine affair out in the concrete jungle that is Blanch.....:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

peabutler · 09-04-2010 02:11PM

I don't think the Rally is about Blanchardstown...

Kold · 09-04-2010 02:12PM

I Drink It Up! wrote: »

Oh right.

And how do they now hope the two lads who allegedly killed him will now have a fair trial, given that they are basically announcing, of their own accord, that his killing was racially motivated?

Rallys don't count as evidence. Trials are carried out on the merit of the evidence produced.

Kold · 09-04-2010 02:13PM

I Drink It Up! wrote: »

Yeah, most of it a work of the pen of Brid Ni Chonaill, it seems. I wonder if she is related to Aine Ni Chonaill.

The attempt to create some sort of Missisipi Burning complex is awkward and brutish.

22%.....a fraction of whom are nigerian....and why are they referring to the young man as Nigerian...he was 11 years in Ireland......

You don't magically turn Irish after 11 years of being in the country. I should know.

I Drink It Up! · 09-04-2010 02:13PM

Kold wrote: »

Rallys don't count as evidence. Trials are carried out on the merit of the evidence produced.

And the prospective jury wont have been influenced by a Rally which tried to paint a picture of unbridled racial tension in Tyrrelstown??

Nodin · 09-04-2010 02:14PM

I Drink It Up! wrote: »

Bingo.

But the Press and the Trots want you to believe it was an internecine affair out in the concrete jungle that is Blanch...

News to me. The only person who seems to be pedalling an agenda here is you.

You didn't remark on the accussed previous. Why?

Lux23 · 09-04-2010 02:14PM

I Drink It Up! wrote: »

Sure that could be anyone and everyone.

Just admit it...when a black person dies, it's racial.

Most people are murdered by someone in their own racial group; thats a grossly ignorant thing to say. I wasn't planning to go to this march but with viewpoints like yours around I think I will now.

prinz · 09-04-2010 02:14PM

RMD wrote: »

My guess is any form of group within Irish culture who could possibly be discriminated against were invited to this rally to show the Dail their opinion, damn right as well.

I assume the far right national skin head party of Ireland got an invite so did they? Or an organisation representing the Catholic faithful of Ireland?

What's With This Rally In Dublin on Saturday?

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