Yemen Child Brides

OutlawPete · 09-04-2010 11:59AM #1

Think we can safely add Yemen to the list of ****ed up countries.

Just reading these two stories, this one's from last week:

Child Bride Escapes After Months In Chains

The young girl had had enough. For months the Yemeni teenager named Hind from the Red Sea town of Hodeida had allegedly been repeatedly beaten and sexually abused by her 70-something husband to whom she was married off by her father and three uncles for the equivalent of $1,400 last year, according to the Yemeni English newspaper the Yemen Times.

She tried to run away from her forced marriage and abuser several times but was caught fleeing by one of the uncles who had arranged her marriage.

Angered that she had tried to run away from the deal he had brokered, the uncle felt Hind, thought to be 13 or 14 years old, needed to be punished for her deed.

So he put a long, heavy iron chain around her neck and tied her to his house like a dog for two months. The uncle apparently made the chain long enough so that Hind could move from the yard to the kitchen and the bathroom.

During this hellish time, Hind was also allegedly beaten by her uncle and sexually abused several times by her cousins.

She finally managed to escape two weeks ago, and details of her tragic story have begun to emerge.

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Now this week we have:

A 13-year-old Yemeni girl has died of internal bleeding three days after being married, rights groups say.

The report comes amid ongoing debate on setting a minimum age for brides in Yemen, where more than a quarter of girls are married before the age of 15.

A 2009 law setting the minimum age at 17 was repealed after some lawmakers said it was un-Islamic. A final decision is due this month.
There was no official confirmation of the death by Yemeni officials.

The girl, said to have been married to a man in his 20s, died in the west of the country last week, the Arab Sisters Forum (Saf) rights group said.

A medical report by the hospital where she was treated said she had suffered a tear to her genitals and severe bleeding after intercourse, the group said.

In a statement obtained by the Reuters news agency, Unicef's regional director, Sigrid Kaag, said the UN child agency was "dismayed by the death of yet another child bride in Yemen".

Human rights groups have been pressurising the authorities to outlaw family-arranged child marriages in Yemen, which has a tribal social structure.

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Duggy747 · 09-04-2010 12:02PM

Shìt like this is far too common over there.

Read another story of a teenager who was forced into a marriage, she tried to run away but the prick tortured her and cut off her ears and nose.

There's a horrible picture of her floating around the web but I ain't gonna link that shìt here!

General Zod · 09-04-2010 12:04PM

humanity is disgusting.

ItsAWindUp · 09-04-2010 12:06PM

Jesus that's brutal.

Hank_Jones · 09-04-2010 12:13PM

That's just seriously fcuked up.

Child brides not being allowed to marry is Un-Islamic?

That's messed up, when I was 13 I was playing football and chasing girls.
Strange world we live in.

miss5 · 09-04-2010 12:14PM

That is awful.

Duggy747 · 09-04-2010 12:14PM

And WE'RE the infidels infecting the world...

General Zod · 09-04-2010 12:17PM

Duggy747 wrote: »

And WE'RE the infidels infecting the world...

Yes, we'd never do anything as brutal as that.

Industrial schools.

Pyridine · 09-04-2010 12:23PM

This is where castration comes in REAL handy!!

epgc3fyqirnbsx · 09-04-2010 12:30PM

I just cannot wrap my head around those kind of things. Frightening that there are such twisted b@stards out there

PirateShampoo · 09-04-2010 12:33PM

Sounds like the Catholic Church has found its way to Yemen.

r3nu4l · 09-04-2010 12:37PM

Ah now! Sure it's their culture! You're all obviously too close-minded and ignorant to understand... :pac:

IvyTheTerrible · 09-04-2010 12:40PM

How on earth can that be allowed?? Those poor girls.

prinz · 09-04-2010 12:44PM

r3nu4l wrote: »

Ah now! Sure it's their culture! You're all obviously too close-minded and ignorant to understand... :pac:

Indeed, they should be allowed to do it here. It's so much more progressive. We're just all afraid of change and something new.

biko · 09-04-2010 12:44PM

Please don't bring religion into this unless you can state where in the Koran/... it's condoned. Child marriages is a poverty issue rather than cultural and quite common in a lot of poor countries..

Child Marriage Fact Sheet
Most countries have declared 18 as the minimum legal age of marriage. Despite the sanctions on child marriage, however, more than 100 million girls are expected to marry in the next decade.
While the practice has decreased globally over the last 30 years, it remains common in rural areas and among the poorest of the poor. Impoverished parents often believe that child marriage will protect their daughters. In fact, however, it results in lost development opportunities, limited life options and poor health.

Child marriage is a health issue as well as a human rights violation. Because it takes place almost exclusively within the context of poverty and gender inequality, it also has social, cultural and economic dimensions. ***

Looking back at Ireland in 15th and 16th century some fathers stipulated in their will their daughters shouldn't be married before the age of 15. A lot of these countries can be compared to Ireland during those days, that's how poor they are. Yemen I think is one of the absolute poorest countries in the world.

Abi · 09-04-2010 12:48PM

Makes me want to puke. Sick bastards.

Morlar · 09-04-2010 12:48PM

It's just another in a long list of ****ed up islamic countries.

Le King · 09-04-2010 12:49PM

Sick, sick, sick.

syklops · 09-04-2010 12:54PM

Some primeval instinct in me wants to get a Glock 17 9mm, some clips, and the address of those 'uncles'.

Sometimes i have to wonder if it would have been better if the Dinosaurs had never died out and we had never evolved.

Caoimhín · 09-04-2010 12:56PM

Yemen? Isnt that where Snyper goes on holidays?

Caoimhín · 09-04-2010 01:00PM

biko wrote: »

Please don't bring religion into this unless you can state where in the Koran/... it's condoned. .

Mohammed married his 6 year old niece.

the hadiths - which record quite clearly that Mohammed was betrothed to Aisha when she was six years old, and the marriage consummated when she was just nine and he was in his early 50s (Sahih Bukhari Vol 5, Bk 58, No 234; Sahih Muslim Bk 008, No 3310, 3311)

.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64: Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death)

Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 65: Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that 'Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death)." what you know of the Quran (by heart)'

Is that enough? I can keep going if you like?

Wibbs · 09-04-2010 01:09PM

What Caoimhín wrote. Its part of the life of the prophet, part of the religion as people seek to emulate him and thus Islamic. Moderate thinkers have attempted to place it in the context of the time but it still goes on. Others have claimed that er actual age was 17 or something as its a tad embarrassing, but the 9 number is oft repeated in the texts.

wes · 09-04-2010 01:13PM

Yeah, its certainly a terrible thing, and hopefully they change the law asap. It is applying how these poor girls are being treated.

Just a quick note, the lowest age of consent here in Europe is actually 13 in Spain:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Europe#Spain

prinz · 09-04-2010 01:18PM

Wibbs wrote: »

What Caoimhín wrote. Its part of the life of the prophet, part of the religion as people seek to emulate him and thus Islamic..

I have often been described as some sort of anti-Islamic crusader by a number of posters on boards.ie but in this case it isn't fair to call it an Islamic practice. It occured across many cultures and religions. It was occuring in Christendom up to a couple of hundred years ago. Some cultures haven't kept speed with the rest of us when it comes to recognising human dignity, while this happens more often than not in cultures which have adopted Islam as major religion, other Islamic countries have laws against this sort of thing.

In Christianity Mary herself was only supposed to have been barely a teenager.

prinz · 09-04-2010 01:19PM

wes wrote: »

Just a quick note, the lowest age of consent here in Europe is actually 13 in Spain:

Which is irrelevant. It's not only about the age of the girl, it's about how she was treated.

syklops · 09-04-2010 01:24PM

wes wrote: »

Just a quick note, the lowest age of consent here in Europe is actually 13 in Spain:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Europe#Spain

The key word in your sentence is consent. When I was 13 I wanted to have sex. I am sure there are people here of the opposite sex who might say the same. If two teens decide they want to do it then in my opinion thats fine. A 13 year old being sold into a marriage with a 70 year old man is completely different. There is no consent given by the girl.

Crann na Beatha · 09-04-2010 01:25PM

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Wibbs · 09-04-2010 01:28PM

prinz wrote: »

I have often been described as some sort of anti-Islamic crusader by a number of posters on boards.ie but in this case it isn't fair to call it an Islamic practice. It occured across many cultures and religions. It was occuring in Christendom up to a couple of hundred years ago. Some cultures haven't kept speed with the rest of us when it comes to recognising human dignity, while this happens more often than not in cultures which have adopted Islam as major religion, other Islamic countries have laws against this sort of thing.

In Christianity Mary herself was only supposed to have been barely a teenager.

I agree completely. It did happen in loads of places including here. The difference people miss(mostly because they are used to christianity that had evolution and reformation) is Islam is not a religion very open to adaptation. Its more pickled in the time whence it came.

Certainly its not adaptable when it comes to the morality or practices and lifestyle of the prophet. He is (naturally) considered along with other prophets the highest person morally in the faith. So anything he practiced is considered equally moral or a duty. Now the majority of Muslims defo in more enlightened richer societies would frown on a 9 year old being married to a 50+ year old today, but would be a tad uncomfortable with dealing with the fact Mohammad did.

ejmaztec · 09-04-2010 01:36PM

Wherever there are toothless yokel societies, there are child brides.

wes · 09-04-2010 01:37PM

prinz wrote: »

Which is irrelevant. It's not only about the age of the girl, it's about how she was treated.

Yeah, your right it is irrelevant, but some people were discussing age here, so I taught I would provide some context.

prinz · 09-04-2010 01:38PM

Iolar wrote: »

I dont think its as much as an islamic custom per say,is it not more custom of Arabs/Bedouins?

Yes.

Wibbs wrote: »

I agree completely. It did happen in loads of places including here. The difference people miss(mostly because they are used to christianity that had evolution and reformation) is Islam is not a religion very open to adaptation. Its more pickled in the time whence it came..

I agree and disgree. Islam today seems to be stuck in the past, but it wasn't always so. IMO it's because this backwardness is being tolerated and actively encouraged in the name of being 'modern' and 'open minded' etc by too many of us. There's no incentive to change with the times.

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