Physical selection for various worldwide Military units

elvis jaffacake · 04-02-2008 09:06PM

Pathfinder wrote: »

"The Pathfinder Platoon

16 Air Assault Brigade's Pathfinder Platoon are specially trained paratroopers tasked with advance force operations : moving in ahead of the main force, reconnoitering and marking the parachute drop zone or helicopter landing zone.

The Pathfinder Platoon is tri-service although it is almost entirely manned by soldiers from 2 and 3 Battalions of The Parachute Regiment, who provide troops to 16 Air Assault Brigade.

Pathfinders may be inserted up to a week ahead of the main force, usually in 4-man teams. The men of the pathfinder platoon are skilled in covert insertion, concealment and intelligence gathering. Pathfinder patrols may be parachuted or helicoptered into position. They may also insert by vehicles, usually heavily armed WMIK Land Rovers.

Although not technically a special forces unit the levels of discipline and skills required of Pathfinders are close to if not entirely comparable to SF. Indeed, a stint in the pathfinders is often a good grounding for those wishing to serve in the Special Air Service.

Pathfinders are highly skilled in insertion by parachute, including HALO and HAHO techniques. "

Once again point?, it in fact say's they are not SF.

elvis jaffacake · 04-02-2008 09:10PM

Hope you have not gone away, I'm enjoying this,

Pathfinder · 04-02-2008 09:13PM

elvis jaffacake wrote: »

Time for me to work my Elvis magic, hold on princess, it's going to be a bumpy ride

You are clueless, 50 % of SAS members come from the Paras, not knowing Pathfinders are part of 16 airbourne/air brigade and support SF ops shows you are clueless.

Claiming most UK SF have never seen action when they have been fully stretched for 6 years, shows you are even more clueless.

Claiming UK SF saw little active service before 9/11 when in the 90s they were involved in Iraq, Bosnia, NI, Sierra Leone (2000) and other places shows you are even more clueless.

Sabre Squadrons in 22 SAS are all HALO qualified.

But the biggest nonsense of all is claiming rangers are just trained as SAS troopers who are specialists.

I doubt most rangers are even trained as signallers.

..................Btw was Elvis. please inform us what kit Rangers carry on selection and how long Tabs are ?

muletide · 04-02-2008 09:13PM

Although I find this all very funny. I feel its time to close it. This sort of carry on is embarrassing to any professional soldiers (not you pathfinder). Unfortunately this guy's fantasies and trolling are having the desired effect and dragging some good men down to his level.

So before this forum becomes the laughing stock of Boards.ie - Mods close it please.

04-02-2008 09:20PM

Pathfinder wrote: »

You are clueless, 50 % of SAS members come from the Paras, not knowing Pathfinders are part of 16 airbourne/air brigade and support SF ops shows you are clueless.

Claiming most UK SF have never seen action when they have been fully stretched for 6 years, shows you are even more clueless.

Claiming UK SF saw little active service before 9/11 when in the 90s they were involved in Iraq, Bosnia, NI, Sierra Leone (2000) and other places shows you are even more clueless.

Sabre Squadrons in 22 SAS are all HALO qualified.

But the biggest nonsense of all claiming rangers are just trained as SAS troopers who are specialists.

I can prove you're a walt. You continuely spell "airborne" wrong! Christ, if you were a para you would know how to spell that word!

And it's 16 air assualt! Come on!! Your supposed mob is in the brigade!

Having said that, I do agree with your statement on the operational history of UKSF pre A-stan and Iraq.

elvis jaffacake · 04-02-2008 09:23PM

Pathfinder wrote: »

You are cluelees, 50 % of SAS members come from the Paras, not knowing Pathfinders are part of 16 airbourne and support SF ops shows you are clueless.Actually about 58% of the SAS are Para,s but that was not my point, I said UKSF, thats SAS, which some Royals do go to, the SBS, virtually all Roayls, and the SRR, which some also go to, so it come out that there are more Royals in UKSF then Paras,

Claiming most UK SF have never seen action when they have been fully stretched for 6 years, shows you are even more clueless.
You mixing up "action" with "mission", do you think they put down rounds every time they go out, thats a lousy way to ran a covert recce isn't it, christ they sent 70 men from 1 squadron to take a heroin production plant out in Astan, just to give them something to do, a job that should have been done by the Paras/royals
Claiming UK SF saw little active service before 9/11 when in the 90s they were involved in Iraq, Bosnia, NI, Sierra Leone (2000) and other places shows you are even more clueless.And how much "action" do you think there was to be had between 91 and 2001, they had a few dust ups, about an hours worth of rounds down range, were all several hundred SAS guys there at all those events to get blooded?

Sabre Squadrons in 22 SAS are all HALO qualified.
Nope
But the biggest nonsense of all claiming rangers are just trained as SAS troopers who are specialists.
Specialists at what?, CP, Rangers do that, CT/HR, Rangers do that, combat swimming?, Rangers do that, what Ninja skills do the SAS know that know one else does?, this should be good

LOL....ok once more

Pathfinder · 04-02-2008 09:25PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I can prove you're a walt. You continuely spell "airborne" wrong! Christ, if you were a para you would know how to spell that word!

And it's 16 air assualt! Come on!! Your supposed mob is in the brigade!

Having said that, I do agree with your statement on the operational history of UKSF pre A-stan and Iraq.

16 air assault was only created in 99, long after I had left, I cant help it if I'm a poor speller.

Hagar · 04-02-2008 09:28PM

Thread closed ovrnight.

This is turning into a train wreck.

Please let there be no muppetry tomorrow.

/ Thread Reopened.

The Black Oil · 05-02-2008 02:19PM

I know this is off the point but why is info about the ARW possibly going to Chad being released? I thought they tended to keep things hush though their presence in other missions has been declared in the past.

minidazzler · 05-02-2008 02:39PM

The Black Oil wrote: »

I know this is off the point but why is info about the ARW possibly going to Chad being released? I thought they tended to keep things hush though their presence in other missions has been declared in the past.

I guess its so that people know they are doing something.

And To let people know the Irish Regs will be grand cos the Rangers will sort the place out first.

Or just to sound cool really. The government are sending our best over and they want people to know we are class.

Thats my 2 cents.

Oilrig · 09-02-2008 02:00AM

I've worked with Kiwis who have been deployed with our Rangers.

The message from these (Kiwis) guys is that the ARW are serious operators.

East Timor.

cp251 · 09-02-2008 02:28AM

Look guys, Irish soldiers have a serious reputation over the years in many armies. We have nothing to be ashamed of. The SAS always had Irish. Just because the ARW never have never been really tested yet doesn't mean they won't come good on the day. They may or may not be the equal of SF in other arms. But the Irish soldier should never be underestimated.

09-02-2008 07:42PM

cp251 wrote: »

Look guys, Irish soldiers have a serious reputation over the years in many armies. We have nothing to be ashamed of. The SAS always had Irish. Just because the ARW never have never been really tested yet doesn't mean they won't come good on the day. They may or may not be the equal of SF in other arms. But the Irish soldier should never be underestimated.

Amen!! Well said!

Also, who could forget Blair "Paddy" Maine anyway!!

Oilrig · 10-02-2008 12:52AM

"But the Irish soldier should never be underestimated."

... Hmmm

I believe the ARW are top notch,

on the other hand, comparing Paddy to other NATO forces, he just doesn't have the experience, equipment and systems to be a serious force.

My point being that we cannot deploy a Battlegroup with our existing assets.

We rely on our personality... something that other forces don't have. Personality doesn't kill the enemy

I have serious doubts about our alignment to the Nordic countries... my experience with these guys is that they are dreamers.

If we want to be serious we need to work with the Brits

Riddle101 · 10-02-2008 11:24PM

Has anyone get the physical selection for the Navy Seals, Delta Force and Spetsnaz

Hagar · 10-02-2008 11:39PM

Oilrig wrote: »

on the other hand, comparing Paddy to other NATO forces

Please try to make your point without the derogatory "Paddy" comments. Thanks.

eroo · 11-02-2008 12:23AM

Riddle101 wrote: »

Has anyone get the physical selection for the Navy Seals, Delta Force and Spetsnaz

google ''Navy SEAL selection'' and you will eventually get what you are looking for.Delta Force..I don't think there's much hope there..Spetsnaz..not a clue!:o

elvis jaffacake · 11-02-2008 03:15PM

Riddle101 wrote: »

Has anyone get the physical selection for the Navy Seals, Delta Force and Spetsnaz

The SEAL's BUD/S and what it involves is out there on the web, just a grinder really, cold water, long days, large men shouting at you some nav, CAG, is different, more psychological, long yomps, navigations, interviews with psychologists ect ect, which "spetnaz"?....there are about 40 of them all doing different things:eek:

Quis Separabit · 11-02-2008 05:03PM

elvis jaffacake wrote: »

The SEAL's BUD/S and what it involves is out there on the web, just a grinder really, cold water, long days, large men shouting at you some nav, CAG, is different, more psychological, long yomps, navigations, interviews with psychologists ect ect, which "spetnaz"?....there are about 40 of them all doing different things:eek:

No SEAL selection involves hell week, a week of exercises which take place on a beach, mainly involving repetitive execises, no Yomps are involved.

Delta Force(selection is for Green berets and rangers only) selection is based upon the same selection as the SAS, as thats who the unit works with and is based upon.

elvis jaffacake · 11-02-2008 05:19PM

Quis Separabit wrote: »

No SEAL selection involves hell week, a week of exercises which take place on a beach, mainly involving repetitive execises, no Yomps are involved.

Delta Force(selection is for Green berets and rangers only) selection is based upon the same selection as the SAS, as thats who the unit works with and is based upon.

Almost correct;) BUD/S involves the beach and water virtually every Day, on the Day's your not in the water or the sand, your with your boat team on a CRRC, or your on the assault course, or in the sheep pit, Hell week, is basically everyone being kept awake and working hard for 6 Days with about 3-4 hours sleep the whole week, your right about the yomping, that only starts really happening after BUD/S in SQT to earn your Budweiser

Nope, CAG(insert name of the week) selection is open to anyone not just green beanies and Rangers, they have briefing's at every major Army post and base looking for guy's, they even have ad's in newspapers, lot's of publicity for the unit that does not exist:eek:

Quis Separabit · 11-02-2008 05:24PM

elvis jaffacake wrote: »

Almost correct;) BUD/S involves the beach and water virtually every Day, on the Day's your not in the water or the sand, your with your boat team on a CRRC, or your on the assault course, or in the sheep pit, Hell week, is basically everyone being kept awake and working hard for 6 Days with about 3-4 hours sleep the whole week, your right about the yomping, that only starts really happening after BUD/S in SQT to earn your Budweiser

Nope, CAG(insert name of the week) selection is open to anyone not just green beanies and Rangers, they have briefing's at every major Army post and base looking for guy's, they even have ad's in newspapers, lot's of publicity for the unit that does not exist:eek:

Most Delta force come from the rangers and green berets, although technically open to other US army units, its unlike many candidates are selected.

Recruitment and training
Most recruits come from the United States Army Special Forces (the Green Berets) and the 75th Ranger Regiment. Not just anyone can become a Delta operator; personnel must attend a Delta briefing at Fort Bragg to be even considered for admission. Since the 1990s, the Army has posted recruitment notices for the 1st SFOD-D [7], which many believe refers to Delta Force. The Army, however, has never released an official fact sheet for the force. The recruitment notices placed in Fort Bragg's newspaper, Paraglide, refer to Delta Force by name, and label it "...the Department of Defense's highest priority unit..." [8]. The notice states that all applicants must be males, 22 years or older, have a general technical score of 110 or higher, and be in the ranks of E-5 through E-8, with at least four and a half years in service.
Such recruits are men with skills such as proficiency in a foreign language or other desirable traits. The selection process is based on the UK SAS model [9][10].

elvis jaffacake · 11-02-2008 05:29PM

Quis Separabit wrote: »

Most Delta force come from the rangers.

Recruitment and training
Most recruits come from the United States Army Special Forces (the Green Berets) and the 75th Ranger Regiment. Not just anyone can become a Delta operator; personnel must attend a Delta briefing at Fort Bragg to be even considered for admission. Since the 1990s, the Army has posted recruitment notices for the 1st SFOD-D [7], which many believe refers to Delta Force. The Army, however, has never released an official fact sheet for the force. The recruitment notices placed in Fort Bragg's newspaper, Paraglide, refer to Delta Force by name, and label it "...the Department of Defense's highest priority unit..." [8]. The notice states that all applicants must be males, 22 years or older, have a general technical score of 110 or higher, and be in the ranks of E-5 through E-8, with at least four and a half years in service.
Such recruits are men with skills such as proficiency in a foreign language or other desirable traits. The selection process is based on the UK SAS model [9][10].

I thought I said that?.....

they often send guy's to the UK on courses or to run UKSFS some year's.....go to any pub around Credenhill and look for the Americans, you can't miss them.:D

elvis jaffacake · 11-02-2008 05:30PM

wait looking back I left a bit out, I meant to say "a large chunk of guys do come from the Greenies and Rangers" sorry should have made myself clearer

Quis Separabit · 11-02-2008 05:38PM

SEAL selection while obviously very physcially demanding has one flaw, its based on over repetitive group physical exercises and tests do not involve enough initiative testing.

Norwayviking · 01-04-2010 07:31PM

I have serious doubts about our alignment to the Nordic countries... my experience with these guys is that they are dreamers.

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Dreamers!!!Thats one i have never heard before.
Maybe you can fill me in on that one

minidazzler · 01-04-2010 07:34PM

Jesus, I just reread some of the posts I made on here 2 years ago!

I sounded like a twat

Norwayviking · 01-04-2010 07:38PM

minidazzler wrote: »

Jesus, I just reread some of the posts I made on here 2 years ago! I sounded like a twat

he he
I guess we all mature as we get older.

minidazzler · 01-04-2010 08:21PM

Norwayviking wrote: »

he he
I guess we all mature as we get older.

Oh, I haven't matured, my opinions have just become alot less retarded! haha.

Norwayviking · 01-04-2010 11:14PM

minidazzler wrote: »

Oh, I haven't matured, my opinions have just become alot less retarded! haha.

he he he ok i guess some of that too then.

NoQuarter · 02-04-2010 03:04AM

Jesus, pathfinder, do ya remember that pr1ck!!!

Physical selection for various worldwide Military units

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