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TIME TO SACK THE POPE

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  • #32
    Richard Noggin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 101 ✭✭Richard Noggin


    Really-Stressed wrote: »
    He has to go.

    If the top of an organisations is rotten then how can it ever be fixed. He has lost all authority.

    Surely there is a way to sack the pope?

    Does it really matter? Personally, him being in power in the Vatican has no effect on me or my life whatsoever.


  • #33
    WIZE
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,597 ✭✭✭WIZE


    Wow

    I didn't know there was so many Practicing Catholic in AH . Hope you were all in Mass today;)


  • #34
    Bonito
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,399 ✭✭✭Bonito


    Most Haunted wrote: »
    Wow

    I didn't know there was so many Practicing Catholic in AH . Hope you were all in Mass today;)
    Eh. I missed it with that whole time change fiasco. ;)


  • #35
    Pittens
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭Pittens


    Yes, the posters on AH are overwhelmed with the power of the Catholic Church in every day, every facet of their life.

    Meanwhile the database State continues to grow unabated, and freedom of speach, and of the internet, and data privacy are under threat from myriad sources - from corporations to the State.

    The muppets will attack the Catholic Church while real freedoms are taken away from them. Elsewhere.


  • #36
    dr.bollocko
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,946 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    Don't sack him
    Pittens wrote: »
    Yes, the posters on AH are overwhelmed with the power of the Catholic Church in every day, every facet of their life.

    Meanwhile the database State continues to grow unabated, and freedom of speach, and of the internet, and data privacy are under threat from myriad sources - from corporations to the State.

    The muppets will attack the Catholic Church while real freedoms are taken away from them. Elsewhere.

    They love paranoid crap like that in here:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=576


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  • #37
    Pittens
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭Pittens


    They love paranoid crap like that in here:

    It is hardly a conspiracy. In the UK, Labour government has introduced 4,200 new laws, most of them criminal offences, many of them relating to speech. The last one was a law allowing post to be opened without a warrant on suspicion of tax evasion. Those laws will expand. Welcome the British Stasi.

    Canada has threatened US right wingers with jail, based on reporting of their statements in Canada. Ireland is influenced by these kind of currents.

    By corporations I mean the misuse of Libel Laws to silence scientific opinion.

    The Catholic church is in decline. The Pope resigning or not - which he should - is neither here nor there for my life. Fight the actual power.


  • #38
    dr.bollocko
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,946 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    Don't sack him
    You could start a thread on that maybe? Strikes me as an odd place to use as a sounding board for your stance that the pope doesn't matter. This thread, after all, is called "Time to sack the pope."


  • #39
    I.Am.A.Panda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 91 ✭✭I.Am.A.Panda


    Oh civil rights suppression laws, you mean ones such as the Blasphemy law supported by the Catholic Church?


  • #40
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Pittens wrote: »
    Fight the actual power.

    http://farm1.static.flickr.com/31/41483882_da8c15c179_o.jpg


  • #41
    Pittens
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭Pittens


    Admittedly, I have dragged this thread off topic to attack the sheer number of pope bashing threads, every hour, every day when there are more important things going on.

    I will post on the other stuff a bit later.

    / end off-topicness


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  • #42
    bigeasyeah
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,290 ✭✭✭bigeasyeah


    Right.Who is going to sack him? He is the one in charge.
    File this one under 'raging idiocy'


  • #43
    Pittens
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭Pittens


    Oh civil rights suppression laws, you mean ones such as the Blasphemy law supported by the Catholic Church?

    Or similar laws proposed in Britain ( and based on Laws in Canada, and Australia) to give religion the same protection as race as regards hate speach. The difference is

    1) The second law is supported by the Left.
    2) The first law is rarely invoked ( not ever in Ireland as far as I know). The Australian and Canadian laws are invoked all the time.
    3) The kind of people opposed to the first are often silent about the latter ( not always - there are libertarians on the left ,too).


  • #44
    I.Am.A.Panda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 91 ✭✭I.Am.A.Panda


    Pittens wrote: »
    Or similar laws proposed in Britain ( and based on Laws in Canada, and Australia) to give religion the same protection as race as regards hate speach. The difference is

    1) The second law is supported by the Left.
    2) The first law is rarely invoked ( not ever in Ireland as far as I know). The Australian and Canadian laws are invoked all the time.
    3) The kind of people opposed to the first are often silent about the latter ( not always - there are libertarians on the left ,too).

    I suppose I would be one of the Libertarians mentioned in #3 :)


  • #45
    stovelid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Removing a shepherd doesn't kill a flock. The flock only has to disperse.


  • #46
    dsmythy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,560 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    Don't sack him
    deisedave wrote: »
    A ex nazi- paedophile is the leader for 1 billion people looking for spirtual advice that sounds about right :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:

    Hmm you and the OP....
    I.Am.A.Panda wrote: »
    Oh civil rights suppression laws, you mean ones such as the Blasphemy law supported by the Catholic Church?

    ....I think you both need to pay the money for your blasphemy or you will end up in hell. Just like the old days :)


  • #47
    I.Am.A.Panda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 91 ✭✭I.Am.A.Panda


    stovelid wrote: »
    Removing a shepherd doesn't kill a flock. The flock only has to disperse.

    Problem is the flock isn't all that smart, and is quickly rounded up again by the shepherd.


  • #48
    stovelid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    I.Am.A.Panda wrote: »
    Problem is the flock isn't all that smart, and is quickly rounded up again by the shepherd.

    I mutton have thought of that, you're right.


  • #49
    I.Am.A.Panda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 91 ✭✭I.Am.A.Panda


    dsmythy wrote: »
    ....I think you both need to pay the money for your blasphemy or you will end up in hell. Just like the old days :)

    Lol If a God makes me suffer in some eternal hellfire simply because I didn't adhere to his whims in spite of no evidence palced before to in fact follow him, then I think God is one pretty messed up guy.


  • #50
    Min
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,550 ✭✭✭Min


    stovelid wrote: »
    Removing a shepherd doesn't kill a flock. The flock only has to disperse.
    I.Am.A.Panda wrote: »
    Problem is the flock isn't all that smart, and is quickly rounded up again by the shepherd.

    That is not smart, who says sheep disperse without a shepherd?


  • #51
    I.Am.A.Panda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 91 ✭✭I.Am.A.Panda


    Min wrote: »
    That is not smart, who says sheep disperse without a shepherd?
    Of course, sheep still stay together, and never become something more than sheep (Until maybe a couple million years of evolution).


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  • #52
    stovelid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Folks, don't be mean and apply practical culchie knowledge to my clever ovine metaphors. :(


  • #53
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Min wrote: »
    That is not smart, who says sheep disperse without a shepherd?

    A rampant sheep shagger may have that effect though....


  • #54
    Min
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,550 ✭✭✭Min


    stovelid wrote: »
    Folks, don't be mean and apply practical culchie knowledge to my clever ovine metaphors. :(

    You could say the child abusers were the pack of stray dogs or a fox among the sheep, some sheep were damaged, it distressed the flock and some wonder if the shepherd did enough.


  • #55
    Son Of A Vidic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    OP - did you say sack or shoot? I know my option.


  • #56
    RMD
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭RMD


    stovelid wrote: »
    Removing a shepherd doesn't kill a flock. The flock only has to disperse.

    If one sheep is lead over a cliff, will the rest not follow?


  • #57
    m@cc@
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭m@cc@


    Don't sack him
    He's appointed by God and can only be sacked by God. He'd need to be given 3 written warnings first as well.


  • #58
    Gigiwagga
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 343 ✭✭Gigiwagga


    Don't sack him
    Ratzinger was/is the man in charge. He was the man in charge for the last 25 odd years controlling information on sexual abuse within the church, he made the laws and rules the bishops had to follow. The buck stops with him. He IS the man to blame for the cover-up, the cover-up was HIS idea. For this reason alone he should be in custody, and he should face a seriously long prison term.

    Is anyone above the law, in this country. If not then Brady should be in custody for facilitating child abuse etc. Everyone who had information on these child rapists and failed to act should be held to account, in open court. The government should make it's position clear, some people are above the law or they are not.


  • #59
    mickdw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,888 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    info@williamrua wrote: »
    Ratzinger was/is the man in charge. He was the man in charge for the last 25 odd years controlling information on sexual abuse within the church, he made the laws and rules the bishops had to follow. The buck stops with him. He IS the man to blame for the cover-up, the cover-up was HIS idea. For this reason alone he should be in custody, and he should face a seriously long prison term.

    Is anyone above the law, in this country. If not then Brady should be in custody for facilitating child abuse etc. Everyone who had information on these child rapists and failed to act should be held to account, in open court. The government should make it's position clear, some people are above the law or they are not.

    I agree 100%. He was the man sending out instrutions to the bishops to inform him of any wrong doing & not to inform gardai etc. He then took no further action in majority of cases or at least no proper action. He should be held accountable. I also feel that due to the mafia controlling the vatican, his hands are tied right now to a large degree. If he proposed to announce a major reform which mafia types would see as a weakening of the church power/wealth, I think we would find that the pope would die of a heart attack before he got his way.


  • #60
    Xluna
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,329 ✭✭✭Xluna


    Don't sack him
    deisedave wrote: »
    A ex nazi- paedophile paedophile enableler is the leader for 1 billion people looking for spirtual advice that sounds about right :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:

    Fixed it.


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  • #61
    Pete M.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,085 ✭✭✭Pete M.


    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article7065824.ece

    Check out the name of the journo who wrote this interesting piece....:confused:


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