Drinking Alone

Lone Stone wrote: »

I dont drink alone, id only drink with friends. That said i dont understand how someone could drink alone unless you got a craving then id question why. I dont even understand people who drink with there dinner (when no else is) but i grew up around alco's so i just have a skewed perception of people drinking hmm

Yes, probably a skewed perception, i.e. that its sole purpose is a drug to force down yourself and get plastered on. People drink with food as it aids digestion, the alcohol causes release of stomach acids, also shock/horror some people like the taste of wine or beer. I remember talking about beers with a guy in work and I was saying I do not like budweiser as it has no taste, he said that was why he drank it. He was shocked to hear I like the taste of beer, he admitted he did not like it so picked bud as the most tasteless drink that he could still manage to force down himself for the drug effect (he said spirits & mixers were too expensive).

You question why people would get a craving, this is sort of hinting at the alco thing. People might have a craving for chocolate or anything. A single drink also has health benefits and can serve as stress relief and/or a nightcap.

You seem to view it solely as a recreational drug as you have grown up with this. This is a common view on other recreational drugs too, in many threads on illegal (or headshop) drugs some people point blank refuse and even laugh at the idea that people could enjoy recreational drugs at threshold doses levels. I know many people who would have miniscule amounts of cannabis or MDMA, only to be told this was nonsense. Yet these same people can perfectly accept their mammy can enjoy a single glass of wine at dinner since alcohol is "different":rolleyes: If all you see is heroin junkies, alcos or gurning E-heads, then it is likely that you will think nobody does it in half measures.

Executive Steve wrote: »

Four rules for healthy moderation of alcohol intake:

1. Never Drink Alone

2. Never Drink Spirits

3. Never Drink before 6 pm

4. Never break more than one rule at once.

Why 6pm? what happens then, the angelus? Its as strange as people who will not eat any animal other than pigs before 11am. And why not spirits? if I had whiskey diluted with coke to 4% is that worse than a 9% german beer?

If I was to suggest rules to stop excessive drunkeness it would be
no rounds
no closing hours (and therefore no last round culture)
no spirits when you are pissed

I think its really odd people hitting spirits after a load of pints, they are already plastered and at that stage are capable of downing straight spirits as they have no real sensation of the alcohol.

jackiebaron wrote: »

Actually HC, I believe the originator of the phrase was the constantly plastered Dean Martin.

Twas Frank Sinatra

rubadub wrote: »

You seem to view it solely as a recreational drug as you have grown up with this. This is a common view on other recreational drugs too, in many threads on illegal (or headshop) drugs some people point blank refuse and even laugh at the idea that people could enjoy recreational drugs at threshold doses levels. I know many people who would have miniscule amounts of cannabis or MDMA, only to be told this was nonsense. Yet these same people can perfectly accept their mammy can enjoy a single glass of wine at dinner since alcohol is "different":rolleyes: If all you see is heroin junkies, alcos or gurning E-heads, then it is likely that you will think nobody does it in half measures.

I think viewing alcohol as solely a recreational drug is the way forward tbh. I really think it would help society both in terms responsible drinking aswell as giving people a more rational attitude towards other drugs (also i don't really enjoy the taste of any alcohol and thus personally treat it purely like a drug ). I would agree with you that just because it's a drug means you have to take loads. Low doses of any drug can be enjoyed.

jackiebaron wrote: »

Those who frown upon drinking alone or drinking at home are ****. Isn't a lady lying in a luxurious bath-tub full of suds and sipping a glass of champers drinking alone? Isn't a fair maiden in the park, reading a book and quaffing Merlot drinking alone? Isn't a country gent relaxing in the armchair in his conservatory with a tankard of cognac drinking alone. The **** don't seem to sneer at these types.

As a person who frowns upon drinking alone i do not hold these people in any high esteem. In fact I frown upon that type of drinking even more because the people engaging in it often think it's somehow better.

Executive Steve wrote: »

Four rules for healthy moderation of alcohol intake:

1. Never Drink Alone

2. Never Drink Spirits

3. Never Drink before 6 pm

4. Never break more than one rule at once.


In other words, you can drink alone, but never before 6, and never whiskey, or you can drink a beer with friends before 6.

I realise your post wasn't entirely serious, but it's an attitude people hav in society anyway so i'll go ahead with my rant. How is a mixed down spirit any worse than beer? I'd argue that drinks like beer and wine are actually worse because some people can begin to appreciate the taste of them, which helps them drink more than they would have and also makes helps them drink when they mightn't have otherwise. Another thing people do with beer is begin to feel the need to always be sipping on a drink, which helps them drink more than they would have otherwise. It's this culture of treating alcohol like a drink rather than a drug that's causing a lot of the problems we see imo.

If the only drink around was 10% vodka + water i'd imagine there'd be less alcoholism and drinking to excess.

Nobody will accept them, but the real 4 rules for healthy moderation of alcohol intake should be;


1. Only drink alcohol socially
2. Always drink vodka (purest drink), mixed down with something relatively healthy (not too much sugar)
3. Always decide how much you are going to drink beforehand
4. Always drink it as fast as is comfortable and then stop drinking rather than dragging your drinking out over the entire night.

I'd also throw "keep hydrated" in there but that would make it 5 .

/rant

vinylmesh wrote: »

Nobody will accept them, but the real 4 rules for healthy moderation of alcohol intake should be;
1. Only drink alcohol socially
2. Always drink vodka (purest drink), mixed down with something relatively healthy (not too much sugar)
3. Always decide how much you are going to drink beforehand
4. Always drink it as fast as is comfortable and then stop drinking rather than dragging your drinking out over the entire night.

No offence, but what a load of nonsense.

drdeadlift wrote: »

Food isnt mind altering

Are you sure? No chemicals are released into the bloodstream by food? No chemicals are released by the brain when you consume food?

Once you're not shaping your evenings around the drinking then it's no big deal. I often have a few glasses of wine whilse watching a movie.. and I don't remember the last time I watched a United game at home without having a few bottles of Bulmers

prinz wrote: »

No offence, but what a load of nonsense.

Do you have a reason for that, or it just goes against how you drink?

It's not like i'm trying to force people to drink that way, just trying to point out how it's obviously superior .

drdeadlift wrote: »

Food isnt mind altering

seamus wrote: »

Are you sure? No chemicals are released into the bloodstream by food? No chemicals are released by the brain when you consume food?

Chillies come to mind, we're not supposed to find them nice to eat but the brain releases endorphins so you'll find the experience pleasurable. Chillies are full of vitamins so it's worth it as far as your body's concerned.

cailin beag wrote: »

I drink on my own every wednesday night without fail!!
My kids stay with their da that night, so i love nothing better than grabbing a few bottles of coors from the offy and sitting talkin ****e on facebook all night!!
Keeps this saddo happy!!:D:D:D

Ruins facebook for everybody else. :pac: