Bully or Bullied.

25-03-2010 06:29PM #1

You have a 12yr old son and he can either be the asshole bully who seems to be happy out or he can be the kid he's bullying who hates his life and is very unhappy.
Nothing can be done to change either situation and things will always be this way.

Which would you rather? 'neither' isn't an option here and I choose bully. If a mod could add a poll, I cant cause i'm on phone.

Kasabian · 25-03-2010 06:30PM

His Dad must be a woss

Mars Bar · 25-03-2010 06:32PM

Bully.

It might be something the child will grow out of.

Being the victim of a bully might result in the child doing something drastic like ending their own life.

EDIT: Although, I'd hate for my child to be the result of another child taking their own life or making their life a misery.

It's a no win situation either way.

minidazzler · 25-03-2010 06:33PM

In either situation, he wasn't raised to deal properly with his problems so he either gets bullied and takes it, or bullys. Both are a failure of parents.

I could not make the choice TBH, I got bullied, til I got bigger than everyone, and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. But If I had a kid who was a bully, I would not spare the rod.

minidazzler · 25-03-2010 06:33PM

mars bar wrote: »

Bully.

It might be something the child will grow out of.

Being the victim of a bully might result in the child doing something drastic like ending their own life.

But you would be OK with your child possibly causing someone to end their life?

RMD · 25-03-2010 06:34PM

Both, you never said we couldn't say that.

He'd be the main bully's right hand man, dishing it out to the nerds but still getting bullied himself.

Mars Bar · 25-03-2010 06:34PM

minidazzler wrote: »

But you would be OK with your child possibly causing someone to end their life?

Looks like I edited as you were typing!

25-03-2010 06:34PM

A bull.

Mooooooo

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 25-03-2010 06:35PM

minidazzler wrote: »

But you would be OK with your child possibly causing someone to end their life?

Well your kid would still be alive. What exactly is that other kid to you? I understand it's mean. But would anybody put a strange child before their own? I highly doubt that.

I would chose for my child to be a bully, however mean, cruel and selfish that decision would be.

dlofnep · 25-03-2010 06:36PM

The kid who's bullied. I'd send him to boxing, so he could send the bully's teeth down his throat.

DrumSteve · 25-03-2010 06:37PM

bullies are little pieces of **** that try to take their insecurities on everyone else. i ****ing hate them.

NothingMan · 25-03-2010 06:37PM

I was bullied a bit when I started secondary and by 3rd year I was able to handle it. Give some slaggings back and diffuse a situation that could get worse. I reckon it adds a little character and if you learn to handle it well you can be better for it.

Where as bullies can coast through their teens getting by on laughs and friends who only hang around with them cos they don't want to be on the recieving end and really couldn't give a sh1t about the bully.

I've seen how the bullies turned out and how the bullied turned out and I would take being bullied anyday.

minidazzler · 25-03-2010 06:38PM

Lennox Some Winter wrote: »

Well your kid would still be alive. What exactly is that other kid to you? I understand it's mean. But would anybody put a strange child before their own? I highly doubt that.

I would chose for my child to be a bully, however mean, cruel and selfish that decision would be.

True, but your child would be the one who deserves to die in that situation.

dcmu · 25-03-2010 06:39PM

minidazzler wrote: »

But you would be OK with your child possibly causing someone to end their life?

Don't know how you jumped to that conclusion.

Kev37 · 25-03-2010 06:40PM

Definitely the bully.

People who get bullied are generally weak individuals. I know that sounds harsh but its true, those who aren't able to stand up for themselves and command respect will generally fail at life. Its a survival of the fittest type scenario.

Looking back none of the guys who used to get bullied made anything of themselves in life. All have remedial jobs for low pay and most are still single. It's almost like the Bullies in my year could foresee the future for these low life, spotty, vermin. I didn't bully myself though.

lightspeed · 25-03-2010 06:42PM

whats wrong you people ? i was not bullied but i never bullied anybody or picked on them intentionally. If my son OR daughter was bullying someone i would absolutely smash their face in and they would not do it again because if they did i would smash their face again even harder and take everything they had away from them and make their room like a prison. No mobile, No tv no internet just a bed and some clothes and bread and water and they will thank themselves lucky. Do that and i bet the next time they will be able to fight the urge bully some poor kid.

minidazzler · 25-03-2010 06:43PM

Kev37 wrote: »

Definitely the bully.

People who get bullied are generally weak individuals. I know that sounds harsh but its true, those who aren't able to stand up for themselves and command respect will generally fail at life. Its a survival of the fittest type scenario.

Looking back none of the guys who used to get bullied made anything of themselves in life. All have remedial jobs for low pay and most are still single. It's almost like the Bullies in my year could foresee the future for these low life, spotty, vermin. I didn't bully myself though.

You have No Fcuking clue what you are talking about.

Being bullied can lead to depression, and alot of the time it does. This can lead to lack of self-worth and the motivation to do something.

Which kinda makes it the bullys fault.

But since bullys generally have quite ****ty parents who don't teach them the difference between right and wrong....if your kid becomes a bully, guess who's fault it is.

dlofnep · 25-03-2010 06:44PM

Kev37 wrote: »

People who get bullied are generally weak individuals. I know that sounds harsh but its true, those who aren't able to stand up for themselves and command respect will generally fail at life. Its a survival of the fittest type scenario.

Looking back none of the guys who used to get bullied made anything of themselves in life. All have remedial jobs for low pay and most are still single. It's almost like the Bullies in my year could foresee the future for these low life, spotty, vermin. I didn't bully myself though.

Absolute utter nonsense.

Most of the kids who were bullied were extremely intelligent and have gone on to make a great life for themselves. I know one guy who's on the dole right now, addicted to heroin for 10 years - while the guy he bullied has gone onto do a PhD and is probably earning about 150k a year.

Bugnug · 25-03-2010 06:44PM

Deleted User wrote: »

You have a 12yr old son and he can either be the asshole bully who seems to be happy out or he can be the kid he's bullying who hates his life and is very unhappy.
Nothing can be done to change either situation and things will always be this way.

Which would you rather? 'neither' isn't an option here and I choose bully. If a mod could add a poll, I cant cause i'm on phone.

Whether the bully or the bullied both are in a terrible situation as a result of bad parenting. Either situation is a desperate place for any child to be in and if not dealt with effectively by either set of parents it will ultimately lead to a life of misery for both types and all of the people they get close to throughout their respective lives.

Kev37 · 25-03-2010 06:44PM

lightspeed wrote: »

whats wrong you people ? i was not bullied but i never bullied anybody or picked on them intentionally. If my son OR daughter was bullying someone i would absolutely smash their face in and they would not do it again because if they did i would smash their face again even harder and take everything they had away from them and make their room like a prison. No mobile, No tv no internet just a bed and some clothes and bread and water and they will thank themselves lucky. Do that and i bet the next time they will be able to fight the urge bully some poor kid.

Yeah mate, beat your kid senseless, because thats definitely going to stop him bullying people and turn him into a well rounded, calm, non confrontational individual

Bugnug · 25-03-2010 06:47PM

lightspeed wrote: »

whats wrong you people ? i was not bullied but i never bullied anybody or picked on them intentionally. If my son OR daughter was bullying someone i would absolutely smash their face in and they would not do it again because if they did i would smash their face again even harder and take everything they had away from them and make their room like a prison. No mobile, No tv no internet just a bed and some clothes and bread and water and they will thank themselves lucky. Do that and i bet the next time they will be able to fight the urge bully some poor kid.

Where do you start with an attitude like that? And then people wonder why there are so many messed up individuals out there.

Kev37 · 25-03-2010 06:49PM

minidazzler wrote: »

You have No Fcuking clue what you are talking about.

Being bullied can lead to depression, and alot of the time it does. This can lead to lack of self-worth and the motivation to do something.

Which kinda makes it the bullys fault.

I think subconciously bullies pick up on those with weaker genetics and target them. When you look back, a lot of those who get bullied are physically small in stature, ugly, or not very athletic etc.

Its nature.

Little Acorn · 25-03-2010 06:50PM

Kev37 wrote: »

Definitely the bully.

People who get bullied are generally weak individuals. I know that sounds harsh but its true, those who aren't able to stand up for themselves and command respect will generally fail at life. Its a survival of the fittest type scenario.

Looking back none of the guys who used to get bullied made anything of themselves in life. All have remedial jobs for low pay and most are still single. It's almost like the Bullies in my year could foresee the future for these low life, spotty, vermin. I didn't bully myself though.

Bullies don't command respect, they instill fear-big difference. Nobody actually genuinely likes bullies, unless they are bullies themselves.

The opposite of your story is true in my experience.
The few bullies in my school have lost all their following of lapdogs, and are just seen wasted about the town on most days.
The ones they picked on, have careers and many friends.

I don't see why you would describe the people getting bullied as vermin, surely the opposite is true.

Bugnug · 25-03-2010 06:50PM

Kev37 wrote: »

Definitely the bully.

People who get bullied are generally weak individuals. I know that sounds harsh but its true, those who aren't able to stand up for themselves and command respect will generally fail at life. Its a survival of the fittest type scenario.

Looking back none of the guys who used to get bullied made anything of themselves in life. All have remedial jobs for low pay and most are still single. It's almost like the Bullies in my year could foresee the future for these low life, spotty, vermin. I didn't bully myself though.

It is a very sad individual that measures sucess in life by how much money and material gain they are worth.

Kev37 · 25-03-2010 06:52PM

dlofnep wrote: »

Absolute utter nonsense.

Most of the kids who were bullied were extremely intelligent and have gone on to make a great life for themselves. I know one guy who's on the dole right now, addicted to heroin for 10 years - while the guy he bullied has gone onto do a PhD and is probably earning about 150k a year.

Good for him. Though I think you can safely say for the most part people who get bullied lack the confidence and the respect required to do well in life. I agree they are normally very intelligent but a lot of the time their social ineptness means they never get to use this potential.

gagiteebo · 25-03-2010 06:53PM

Kev37 wrote: »

Definitely the bully.

People who get bullied are generally weak individuals. I know that sounds harsh but its true, those who aren't able to stand up for themselves and command respect will generally fail at life. Its a survival of the fittest type scenario.

Looking back none of the guys who used to get bullied made anything of themselves in life. All have remedial jobs for low pay and most are still single. It's almost like the Bullies in my year could foresee the future for these low life, spotty, vermin. I didn't bully myself though.

Absolute nonsense! What an ignorant thing to say, I really hope you just said that to rile others and not because you actually believe it to be true.

I was bullied in national school and in secondary school by the same group of girls! There was a gang of them and one of me so you tell me who are the 'weak' ones in that scenario. I had to face them every day but did it with my head held high and yes it was hard and it did make me stronger. Thank God I had great parents and family.

10 years later they are still living in my hometown with little prospects while I've been to university, travelled the world and made great friends. I've tried to be the best person I can be so I can sleep at night. I couldn't if I thought I made someone else miserable. Funny thing is they now want to be my friend...good luck with that :rolleyes:

minidazzler · 25-03-2010 06:54PM

Kev37 wrote: »

I think subconciously bullies pick up on those with weaker genetics and target them. When you look back, a lot of those who get bullied are physically small in stature, ugly, or not very athletic etc.

Its nature.

I'm 6'2, 186 lbs, very fit, and very very goodlooking. Yet I was a target for bullies when I was younger, between 12 and 15. I would have been around the same height as my tormentors then.

I was picked because I fought back, so your logic, is completely retarded!

It's not nature, it's nurture.

Kev37 · 25-03-2010 06:55PM

Little Acorn wrote: »

Bullies don't command respect, they instill fear-big difference. Nobody actually genuinely likes bullies, unless they are bullies themselves.

The opposite of your story is true in my experience.
The few bullies in my school have lost all their following of lapdogs, and are just seen wasted about the town on most days.
The ones they picked on, have careers and many friends.

I don't see why you would describe the people getting bullied as vermin, surely the opposite is true.

Well I never bullied or got bullied, go figure. Obviously its different if you went to a working class school where most of the bullies come from broken families but outside of that bullies generally go onto achieve great things, not because their bullies, but because they have confidence to do things. Whilst the spotty nerd who used to sit hunched at the front of the class with his nose in a book will probably never break out of his little shell.

minidazzler · 25-03-2010 06:57PM

Kev37 wrote: »

Well I never bullied or got bullied, go figure. Obviously its different if you went to a working class school where most of the bullies come from broken families but outside of that bullies generally go onto achieve great things, not because their bullies, but because they have confidence to do things. Whilst the spotty nerd who used to sit hunched at the front of the class with his nose in a book will probably never break out of his little shell.

You are a fool if you believe that.

Confidence generally means someone doesn't have to bully.

People who are confident in themselves have no need to make other people feel small.

Bullies can and do succeed in life, but I wouldn't say it is because of confidence.

Kev37 · 25-03-2010 06:59PM

minidazzler wrote: »

I'm 6'2, 186 lbs, very fit, and very very goodlooking. Yet I was a target for bullies when I was younger, between 12 and 15. I would have been around the same height as my tormentors then.

I was picked because I fought back, so your logic, is completely retarded!

It's not nature, it's nurture.

In fairness you don't just get bullied for no reason, you were obviously socially inept or something at that age. Looking back at my school days the type who got bullied never got girls and were incredibly odd and socially inept, I really felt sorry for them. I think that says something about their position in society. The stronger male (i.e those who dont get bullied) will always have the pick of the women because they are genetically stronger which was the case in my school anyway.

thetonynator · 25-03-2010 06:59PM

Kev37 wrote: »

Definitely the bully.

People who get bullied are generally weak individuals. I know that sounds harsh but its true, those who aren't able to stand up for themselves and command respect will generally fail at life. Its a survival of the fittest type scenario.

Looking back none of the guys who used to get bullied made anything of themselves in life. All have remedial jobs for low pay and most are still single. It's almost like the Bullies in my year could foresee the future for these low life, spotty, vermin. I didn't bully myself though.

Sounds like a bit of a contradiction to me . . .

Bully or Bullied.

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