Home Security, Are You Safe As A House?

Manic Moran · 21-03-2010 06:54AM

Pretty safe. No alarm, but I do live with a dog. That'll provide the warning. The safety is provided by a blued SIG-Sauer P2340 chambered in 357SIG loaded with ten rounds of Corbon jacketed hollow point and the fact that my bedroom door opens straight to a straight staircase. The archetypal 'Fatal Funnel.' Second magazine is kept handy.

NTM

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 21-03-2010 07:29AM

Manic Moran wrote: »

Pretty safe. No alarm, but I do live with a dog. That'll provide the warning. The safety is provided by a blued SIG-Sauer P2340 chambered in 357SIG loaded with ten rounds of Corbon jacketed hollow point and the fact that my bedroom door opens straight to a straight staircase. The archetypal 'Fatal Funnel.' Second magazine is kept handy.

NTM

Ah, you not only keep your firearm and ammunition together, you keep your gun loaded? Not exactly legal or safe for that matter. That's not something your FO would be too happy about either

Not sure how that would fare when telling the police you shot a burglar, especially if he is unarmed

minidazzler · 21-03-2010 07:33AM

Everlee Unsightly Homemaker wrote: »

Ah, you not only keep your firearm and ammunition together, you keep your gun loaded? Not exactly legal or safe for that matter. That's not something your FO would be too happy about either

Not sure how that would fare when telling the police you shot a burglar, especially if he is unarmed

MM is living in America...not Ireland.

Also, what the fcuk use is a pistol for protection if you don't keep the ammunition near or in it?

And finally, screw that burglar, shouldn't have been in the house in the first place!

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 21-03-2010 07:38AM

minidazzler wrote: »

MM is living in America...not Ireland.

Also, what the fcuk use is a pistol for protection if you don't keep the ammunition near or in it?

And finally, screw that burglar, shouldn't have been in the house in the first place!

Ah, well that makes perfect sense then

Completely different set of rules, my bad, I apologise. It would be a very unusual thing to have in Ireland.

You can't get a firearm in Ireland for protection.

Screw the burglar is right, but screw him over with your hurl or whatever. I wouldn't kill him. Thing is, some of these burglars are not exactly bad people, I know that sounds stupid, but some are desperate people who lost their job but have a family to look after. Understandable, but would still get a hurl broke over his back for entering my house :P

minidazzler · 21-03-2010 07:44AM

Everlee Unsightly Homemaker wrote: »

Ah, well that makes perfect sense then Completely different set of rules, my bad, I apologise. It would be a very unusual thing to have in Ireland.

You can't get a firearm in Ireland for protection.

Screw the burglar is right, but screw him over with your hurl or whatever. I wouldn't kill him. Thing is, some of these burglars are not exactly bad people, I know that sounds stupid, but some are desperate people who lost their job but have a family to look after. Understandable, but would still get a hurl broke over his back for entering my house :P

I don't own a hurley (or a gun for that matter

) But don't be so bleeding heart. Someone comes into your house uninvited in the night, you can bet they don't intend to give you roses.

And realistically, someone breaking into your house is not a dedicated family man who has just fallen on hard times. They would generally be people looking for a quick buck for more illicit activities.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 21-03-2010 07:54AM

minidazzler wrote: »

I don't own a hurley (or a gun for that matter ) But don't be so bleeding heart. Someone comes into your house uninvited in the night, you can bet they don't intend to give you roses.

And realistically, someone breaking into your house is not a dedicated family man who has just fallen on hard times. They would generally be people looking for a quick buck for more illicit activities.

I try to look at it from another point of view. Depending on the situation, the burglar may not be able to leave my home

Regardless of what situation he is in, I wouldn't give a damn. There's more than likely a link between the rise in unemployment and the rise in crime. Although, I would expect people to be shoplifting rather than breaking into houses. If 2 big burly fcukers broke into my home, I would shít a birck, stay in my bedroom and let them take what they wanted. Later I would think to myself, why didn't I challange them :P It all depends on the situation to be honest.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 21-03-2010 08:25AM

I have a Pitbull who'd pull the clouds out of the heaven's for me and can make the front gate in about 1.5 nano-seconds, and a Staffordfordshire Bull Terrier who'd strip their victim to bare bones just as quick.

Failing that happening for some reason, yes my house is very secure, I'm very secure but I'm sure I make the scumbags in my area feel very insecure - so all's good.

Odysseus · 21-03-2010 08:53AM

I would take security serious, in the course of my work I encounter some nasty people; and sometimes my team has to make decisions that upset them. Assitionally, I own a few firearms so I a good security system.

A lot of my clients break into houses, so that keeps me quite security conscious.

merengueca · 21-03-2010 11:19AM

I was broken into 2 years ago, middle of the night, 4 guys, hoodies, and a crow bar - not only did they come in a take what they wanted they also saw fit to storm into my bedroom wake me up and demand that i give them the drugs.... The nearest things I have to drugs would be Lemsip Max Strength. By the way I'm a woman and was alone in the house.

The transpires that I bought my house from an ex dealer (it is actually in a very respectable area) and the four scum hadn't registered the new owner!

Advice from Police was that even if I did retaliate I could only attack unpunished if I could prove my life was in danger - so realistically that means if they were upstairs and I used a non obvious weapon.. so knife/cricketbat/hurley in the bedroom would be considered a weapon, but a hammer/screwdriver/maglite torch (security gaurd style) are all items that could realistically be lying around upstairs.

2 years later - I have a 7 stone labrador/bloodhound cross who would happily go all turner and hooch on anyone trying to get in, hurley upstairs, hurley downstairs and not only do I lock all the doors as soon as I get in I also blockade the backdoor with kitchen chairs so it couldn't possibly be opened (I know this is mental so only do it when I don't have people staying). Also get up at least 3 times a night reacting to noises.... Not good!!!

galwayrush · 21-03-2010 11:27AM

A widow, living alone in my area was broken into, she didn't bother call the gardai , she rand the local pub , the 3 raiders ended uo in hospital.:cool:

Cheap Thrills! · 21-03-2010 11:35AM

I have an alarm system but do not use it. Alarms are useless and selfish, biggest waste of money ever. Unless you are willing to give your neighbour a spare key and the alarm code then it is pointless setting an alarm, because in the event that it goes off everyone presumes its a nuisance and totally ignores it. Contrary to popular belief the Guards do not come when an alarm rings. I am not willing to give the key to the neighbours so I dont use it.

Our estate was plagued by nuisance alarms in the first few years. One went off for an entire weekend once, no-one came. Thats when I stopped using mine. They are anti-social and useless.

However, I lock my door even when I am in. I also would never leave a ground floor window open while I am home (or out obviously) I was born and raised in Dublin where crime is the norm and was flabberghasted in the past by a flatmate from a small town who left the house leaving a large ground floor window open. He couldn't cmprehend what he had done wrong.

My boyfriend gets annoyed when he comes home and the door is locked but why would anyone leave their front door open for any scumbag to walk into their house?!

You're all mad decribing where you live btw! Thugs read the internets you know! ARGH:eek:

Bolag_the_2nd · 21-03-2010 12:00PM

my area is very secure, my house is very secure, i am not so secure, sometimes i get a little sad and.......... oh wait, im away to PI

orourkeda · 21-03-2010 12:13PM

Any motherf*cker breaks in my house I kill the the motherf*cker

21-03-2010 12:26PM

Where I rent (housing estate) we lock the door at night or when no one is around. There is an alarm but never been used or even mentioned since I moved in. We would leave upstairs windows open all day while away.

My home house in the country we generally lock the door at night only. More often than no if going somewhere during the day with no one at home the door wouldn't be locked, we have a big garage that has never been locked in the 25 years its been built. We also have a habit of leaving the keys in the ignition of the cars at home. I don't think there is a house alarm within a 5 mile radius of my home house.

I'am some what of the opinion that if someone wants to break in a locked door wont stop them.

Locust · 21-03-2010 12:39PM

I have very secure exterior doors with loads of locks, spyhole etc.
Not so secure windows - although i make up for it with big anti social spiky bushes at every window. If someones going to come into my house i'd prefer for them to be shredded and bleeding. I also think that tar glue stuff is great for the tops of walls etc...
Considering getting a box/cover over the inside of the letter box to make 'fishing' more difficult etc...

With all this 'i'd kill/batter the burglar' posts - the burglars know this and 9 times out of ten will watch your routines and make sure your gone, most people seem to forget that most houses are broke into when folks are gone.

minidazzler · 21-03-2010 12:44PM

Locust wrote: »

I have very secure exterior doors with loads of locks.
Not so secure windows - although i make up for it with big anti social spiky bushes at every window.
Considering getting a box/cover over the inside of the letter box to make 'fishing' more difficult etc...

With all this 'i'd kill/batter the burglar' posts - the burglars know this and 9 times out of ten will watch your routines and make sure your gone, most people seem to forget that most houses are broke into when folks are gone.

Yeah, they will make sure the house is empty, but for the most part burglars would be after a quick score, just a little thing they can sell fast for cash, Xbox, Laptop, TV small enough to be carried out.

They don't watch you for days, they don't do much surveillance. It's quick and usually quite random.

I live in an area where this is not uncommon, I know people that do it, I get offered a new TV or Xbox every couple of weeks for 50 euro.

The fact is, when cops tell you it's an organised crime, they are wrong. It's very disorganised, get in, grab, get out.

Manic Moran · 21-03-2010 01:44PM

the burglars know this and 9 times out of ten will watch your routines and make sure your gone, most people seem to forget that most houses are broke into when folks are gone.

Actually, I'm not sure that's correct. In the UK, the 'hot burglary' rate (i.e. where the resident is actually present in the building at the time the burglary occurs) is somewhere around 55%. I presume Ireland will be somewhat similar.

The US the rate is about 10%. It's presumed that the fact that most States allow you to shoot burglars tends to cause them to be very careful about who they rob and when. Doesn't necessarily cut down on burglaries, but it certainly makes it less likely that there will be anyone put at risk as there's less chance of an unintented meeting.

NTM

IvySlayer · 21-03-2010 01:49PM

Best alarm system I ever had was my dog. She was small, but her bark made her sound a lot bigger.

As for the actual alarm system, it's pretty good, except for one area in the house where a sensor is broke, have to bypass that section. All windows and doors locked at night.

Jesus Wept · 21-03-2010 01:56PM

mail4liam wrote: »

Well I suppose in today's trend with all the house break in's, how is your home

The trend is downwards. There are less house robberies now than in years gone.

Personal robberies have increased because often people are carrying the more expensive items they own, iphones, etc.

dsmythy · 21-03-2010 01:59PM

Started to lock the doors when I'm inside when a neighbour had 4 drunken teens smash his front door in to rob him. Kinda defeats the purpose if they are just going to ram the door through but at least make it hard for them!

Kasabian · 21-03-2010 02:04PM

galwayrush wrote: »

A widow, living alone in my area was broken into, she didn't bother call the gardai , she rand the local pub , the 3 raiders ended uo in hospital.:cool:

The joys of living in a close knit community. I grew up in a town where your door was never locked.

Saying that there has been a spate of attempted breakins in the last while, but the perpetrators have been identified as a new family of skangers that moved in, they have been moved on.

Tail Wagger · 21-03-2010 02:21PM

Manic Moran wrote: »

Pretty safe. No alarm, but I do live with a dog.
That'll provide the warning. The safety is provided by a blued SIG-Sauer P2340 chambered in 357SIG loaded with ten rounds of Corbon jacketed hollow point and the fact that my bedroom door opens straight to a straight staircase. The archetypal 'Fatal Funnel.' Second magazine is kept handy.

NTM

Are you a writer? this sounds like a passage from a book?

You sleep with a dog? Thats a terrible way to address your partner?

Tail Wagger · 21-03-2010 02:27PM

Manic Moran wrote: »

Pretty safe. No alarm, but I do live with a dog. That'll provide the warning. The safety is provided by a blued SIG-Sauer P2340 chambered in 357SIG loaded with ten rounds of Corbon jacketed hollow point and the fact that my bedroom door opens straight to a straight staircase. The archetypal 'Fatal Funnel.' Second magazine is kept handy.

NTM

The-Rigger wrote: »

The trend is downwards. There are less house robberies now than in years gone.

Personal robberies have increased because often people are carrying the more expensive items they own, iphones, etc.

I disagree with you there, I was at a neighbour hood watch scheme some weeks ago and house break in's seem to be climbing up again. Recession and Company's looking for scrap gold to purchase?

mail4liam · 21-03-2010 02:35PM

Manic Moran wrote: »

Pretty safe. No alarm, but I do live with a dog. That'll provide the warning. The safety is provided by a blued SIG-Sauer P2340 chambered in 357SIG loaded with ten rounds of Corbon jacketed hollow point and the fact that my bedroom door opens straight to a straight staircase. The archetypal 'Fatal Funnel.' Second magazine is kept handy.

NTM

God help us I'm licking me lips reading that one?

There's a book in that for you?

Sounds like your defending the Alamo?

Hank_Jones · 21-03-2010 04:34PM

I'd say that my college house is not that safe.

But then again, there is very little to actually rob in it and if someone broke in they would have 4 big lads kicking the crap out of them (which is probably the best security system going).

Jesus Wept · 21-03-2010 04:45PM

Tail Wagger wrote: »

I Recession and Company's looking for scrap gold to purchase?

Yes that will see an increase, however it had fallen considerably as the price of electrical goods - dvd players etc, has fallen so low that there is little or no re-sale value.

Mr. Manager · 21-03-2010 05:00PM

I have a Newfoundland dog in my apartment.

Nuff said!

Stojkovic · 21-03-2010 06:29PM

I have a sign that says ;

BURGLARS WILL BE SHOT
SURVIVORS PROSECUTED

21-03-2010 08:35PM

Stojkovic wrote: »

I have a sign that says ;

BURGLARS WILL BE SHOT
SURVIVORS PROSECUTED

I prefer the sign

BURGLARS WILL BE SHOT
SURVIVORS WILL BE SHOT AGAIN.

Tail Wagger · 21-03-2010 08:57PM

Stojkovic wrote: »

I have a sign that says ;

BURGLARS WILL BE SHOT
SURVIVORS PROSECUTED

That sounds very Intentional..... Better off if they survive to stand em up again and re-load?

Home Security, Are You Safe As A House?

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