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Is it worth ugrading to windows 7?

  • 04-03-2010 9:28pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭


    I'm running windows vista and have nevet been a huge fan of it. I have a lot of problems with updates, i don't run them anymore because it means doing a restore afterwards. I haven't heard much good or bad about windows 7. Would you reccomend it?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Had this laptop going on 3 months now, think I've had a total of 5 program freezes in that time, with it being powered off for a total of maybe 100 hours. So yes, I would most certainly recommend it.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I've been using Windows 7 Professional 64-bit full time for the last week and a half. I'm actually getting the hang of it. If I can do it, anyone can, believe me!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Yes, no question.


  • Registered Users Posts: 647 ✭✭✭corcaigh1


    Running Windows 7 ultimate myself..defo worth it, much better than vista, xp.;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,707 ✭✭✭flutered


    for me the bloody thing hangs at times, when my old lappy is repaired (xp) this new fangled thingimig is on the block, its probably my age.:mad:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,421 ✭✭✭✭Ghost Train


    Have been sticking to xp for certain hardware reasons but windows 7 seems to work fine when I switched over recently. Makes certain aspects of xp feel very dated and heavy, install and setup very quick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭RubyXI


    Thanks for the response. It would be the home premium edition i would be upgrading to. I'll have to try and find a good price on it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 650 ✭✭✭Mister Gooey


    Using Vista for last two years. Never had any problems with updates, never crashes for me either. I have Windows 7 on a new computer. Not much differrence really between the two, tbh. I wouldn't upgrade my old PC from vista. It's not worth the money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 865 ✭✭✭humaxf1


    OP, when you say upgrade to 7, do you mean an in-place upgrade or a clean install?

    In-place upgrades are fine to a point, BUT, they can go up their own arse either immediately or 6 months down the road.

    One thing to look out for is...does your computer have drivers available for Windows 7? For example, graphic card drivers, sound card or touchpad drivers for laptops can be either a pain to get or not available full stop!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,157 ✭✭✭✭Alanstrainor


    humaxf1 wrote: »
    OP, when you say upgrade to 7, do you mean an in-place upgrade or a clean install?

    In-place upgrades are fine to a point, BUT, they can go up their own arse either immediately or 6 months down the road.

    One thing to look out for is...does your computer have drivers available for Windows 7? For example, graphic card drivers, sound card or touchpad drivers for laptops can be either a pain to get or not available full stop!

    Windows 7 will pick up vista drivers, and i've managed to get it working with ancient hardware using xp drivers no problem, so unless the laptop/hardware is obscure i would think sorting out drivers shouldn't be a problem.

    Oh and i completely agree a fresh install is a much better option.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    I never had Vista so I couldn't say if it's worth the upgrade but a friend moved from Vista to Windows 7 and says it's made a huge difference to his laptop, not so much in performance but in actually being able to get software to run properly. .

    I moved from XP both at home and at work and noticed a huge difference in performance myself. The only problems I've had are on the work PC, the sleep mode was causing the PC to lock up and wouldn't come back on until I knocked off the power to the power supply.
    Even though it crashed and had power completely cut to it when I turned the power back on and booted up it still had all my applications open with the unsaved data intact. Turned off sleep and haven't had a problem since.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭RubyXI


    humaxf1 wrote: »
    OP, when you say upgrade to 7, do you mean an in-place upgrade or a clean install?

    In-place upgrades are fine to a point, BUT, they can go up their own arse either immediately or 6 months down the road.

    One thing to look out for is...does your computer have drivers available for Windows 7? For example, graphic card drivers, sound card or touchpad drivers for laptops can be either a pain to get or not available full stop!

    No idea! :o
    What is an in-place upgrade?
    I would be buying the windows 7 upgrade dvd whichever one that is!!!


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,129 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Don't forget that the upgraded version of windows can't be moved to another PC later on. If you replace your computer you can't reuse the upgrade. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,007 ✭✭✭Moriarty


    I was under the impression that that was only with OEM licenses?

    And even with an OEM licence not really, as long as you no longer use the machine you originally bought the licence for it's still valid according to MS and they will allow the key to migrate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 325 ✭✭doyler442


    Hi

    I would definetly recommend installing Windows 7 - I had Vista Home Premium and in recent weeks it has just driven me demented:

    - there was the constant 100% usage of the CPU for no reasons at all, and also due to system idle time even though it wasn't idle at all
    - the installer for programs was starting to take five/ten minutes to start up
    - Visual Studio decided to stop working because I had removed Office 2007
    - Couldn't install Xampp for Wordpress because of Vista related issues

    There was countless other ones so yesterday I got a copy of Windows 7 Professional and couldn't be any happier at the moment - all the problems from above are gone and I'm just after installing Xampp and Wordpress with no problems at all.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,129 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Moriarty wrote: »
    I was under the impression that that was only with OEM licenses?

    And even with an OEM licence not really, as long as you no longer use the machine you originally bought the licence for it's still valid according to MS and they will allow the key to migrate.
    Yes it's only for OEM licenses. Very few home users will have a non-OEM license.

    Also the license is not bound to the machine. It's bound to the motherboard. It can't be moved to another motherboard, let alone another machine, unless the manufacturer replaces it under warranty.

    If your motherboard dies out of warranty , the license dies with it. :(:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,135 ✭✭✭fifth


    I just upgraded to Windows 7 Home premium 64 bit and it's well worth it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭RubyXI


    funkyflea wrote: »
    I just upgraded to Windows 7 Home premium 64 bit and it's well worth it.

    What's the difference between 64 bit and 32 bit?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,129 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    phi3 wrote: »
    What's the difference between 64 bit and 32 bit?
    you need a 64 bit processor to run the 64 bit version
    64 bit will handle more than 3 GB of Memory


    what make/model computer do you have ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭RubyXI


    you need a 64 bit processor to run the 64 bit version
    64 bit will handle more than 3 GB of Memory


    what make/model computer do you have ?

    I've a samsung x22
    Think i've 32 bit processor and 4 gb memory


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 935 ✭✭✭wildefalcon


    Comparing Vista, XP and 7, I'd have to say that 7 is my favourite.

    It works, it is slick and intuitive, the window resize options are great, the shake to clear is clever, and the Themes are nice. Compatibility is very good.

    You would be well advised to ensure you have sufficient RAM memory - preferably 2 Gb, and a processor running faster than 1.5 ghz.

    To use the Aero interface you need to have a Direct X "10" standard graphics card, I think. But the plain interface is very good too.

    As for worthwhile, that depends on how much it costs you!

    So, if you can get it at the right price, and you meet the spec. Get it!

    WildeFalcon.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,129 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    phi3 wrote: »
    I've a samsung x22
    Think i've 32 bit processor and 4 gb memory
    http://www.samsung.com/ie/business/b2b/products/notebooks/business_class/x22.htm
    Intel Core2 Duo Processor = 64 bit

    so 64 bit windows is an option, not that 64 bit is twice as good as 32 bit or anything like that , unless all your programs are also 64 bit you wouldn't get the full benefit anyway.

    [edit] missed the "2"


    If you want to speed up Vista try these tips - if it's still slow the consider doing a clean install again.
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=61492466&postcount=3


    NB. upgrading windows will not fix slowness caused by malware or too many drivers and it probably won't fix driver problems either.

    Also if the PC is slow on startup check that Skype or Antivirus scan isn't set to auto-start.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,983 ✭✭✭leninbenjamin


    http://www.samsung.com/ie/business/b2b/products/notebooks/business_class/x22.htm
    Intel Core2 Duo Processor = 32 bit

    so 64 bit windows is NOT an option, not that 64 bit is twice as good as 32 bit or anything like that , unless all your programs are also 64 bit you wouldn't get the full benefit anyway.

    This is wrong. Core 2 Duo's are perfectly capable of executing 64 bit instructions considering they are fabricated using a 64 bit architecture.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭RubyXI


    http://www.samsung.com/ie/business/b2b/products/notebooks/business_class/x22.htm
    Intel Core2 Duo Processor = 32 bit

    so 64 bit windows is NOT an option, not that 64 bit is twice as good as 32 bit or anything like that , unless all your programs are also 64 bit you wouldn't get the full benefit anyway.


    If you want to speed up Vista try these tips - if it's still slow the consider doing a clean install again.
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=61492466&postcount=3


    NB. upgrading windows will not fix slowness caused by malware or too many drivers and it probably won't fix driver problems either.

    Also if the PC is slow on startup check that Skype or Antivirus scan isn't set to auto-start.

    It's actually not slow. I just have problems with updates. Anytime i install a suggested windows update eg. service pack 2, it won't start up again afterwards so i have to go back to a previous restore point. I'm not even sure if it's a vista problem or not but i've heard others had problems with updates on vista too.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    http://www.samsung.com/ie/business/b2b/products/notebooks/business_class/x22.htm
    Intel Core2 Duo Processor = 32 bit

    so 64 bit windows is NOT an option, not that 64 bit is twice as good as 32 bit or anything like that , unless all your programs are also 64 bit you wouldn't get the full benefit anyway.
    *ahem* :)
    107108.PNG


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,621 ✭✭✭Panda


    drop vista like a hot snot,
    i've had 7 running on a hp compaq nc6220 and its far better compared to the slow slog that is vista.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,129 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    oops missed the "2"

    for some reason I saw just the duo :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    phi3 wrote: »
    What's the difference between 64 bit and 32 bit?
    Bigger is better and 64 is twice as big as 32.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,137 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    Upgraded my laptop from vista to windows 7 ultimate 32bit, noticed a massive performance increase. Seconds to boot up and it was fantastic.

    I cleaned it and am using ubuntu now just so I can see what the fuss is about, can see myself changing back over the summer.

    I use windows 7 ultimate 32bit on my main pc. Gaming machine.

    Its fantastic, from its built in security software and anti-spyware, to just the performance tweaks, it made my machine alot faster, moving from xp. And it was easy peasy, and kept all my files like music etc


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,135 ✭✭✭fifth


    The last 3 days with Windows 7 have been lovely. It feels like the proper step up from XP that Vista should have been.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22 LinHaX


    I used to have problems with drivers in Windows 7 few months ago, but last month I had to format my HDD, and I gave it a next chance. Installation process is very quick and intuitive even for beginners, and the system works much faster and definietaly more stable than Vista.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭RubyXI


    http://www.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/6759441/Trail/searchtext%3EWINDOWS+7.htm

    Is this one looking ok to upgrade from vista home premium?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,129 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    phi3 wrote: »

    this is what they say at the bottom
    For purchase of Dell computer from MADLapTOP only.

    It's OEM and can't be sold separately from the laptop
    also it's a DELL cd so won't install on another brand of laptop


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭RubyXI


    this is what they say at the bottom
    For purchase of Dell computer from MADLapTOP only.

    It's OEM and can't be sold separately from the laptop
    also it's a DELL cd so won't install on another brand of laptop

    Ya i emailed them to ask if it would only work on dell laptops and they said it would work on any laptop or pc. Still sounds a bit dodgy tho


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,915 ✭✭✭GTE


    Personally I moved up to Windows 7 this weekend.

    Amazed. Its as fast if not a little quicker on my netbook then XP and thats pretty good going since all the visual features are on. Well done to Microsoft on this one.

    I highly recommend Windows 7 for everyday use.
    If you are using it for audio recording (my area), different story.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,056 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    I haven't found much difference in speed between XP (One a few machines) and Windows 7 (on one machine) . I've had Windows 7 for over a year now. But I had no end of problems with Vista. Windows 7 has been great.

    Not all CPU/Motherboards are 64bit compatible. you have to check that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,265 ✭✭✭Seifer


    OP have you tried a clean install of Vista?
    It's as likely to solve your problems and at no cost.
    I'm running Vista on my laptop (day to day machine) and W7 on my gaming desktop and wouldn't say it is worth the price of upgrading.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭RubyXI


    Seifer wrote: »
    OP have you tried a clean install of Vista?
    It's as likely to solve your problems and at no cost.
    I'm running Vista on my laptop (day to day machine) and W7 on my gaming desktop and wouldn't say it is worth the price of upgrading.

    Really? Might give it a try. I did a restore before (with the restore disks) alrite if that has the same effect


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,265 ✭✭✭Seifer


    Make sure you do a clean install this time though not a restore.
    If you're unable to install service packs then something important has obviously been corrupted.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭RubyXI


    Just a question on this full install.
    Will i loose everything saved on the computer?
    Will everything have to be re-installed afterwards?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,265 ✭✭✭Seifer


    Yes to both.
    This will be the case if you do a Windows 7 install as well though. It would be crazy to try and do an upgrade install of Windows 7 with your current Vista considering your main problem is with updating Vista.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭RubyXI


    Seifer wrote: »
    Yes to both.
    This will be the case if you do a Windows 7 install as well though. It would be crazy to try and do an upgrade install of Windows 7 with your current Vista considering your main problem is with updating Vista.

    Thanks
    Will have to root out my install disks so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭RubyXI


    Well I've upgraded. All is well so far. Very quick install with no restarts or problems. Don't understand this watch live tv thing though. I thought they were saying there is a way you can pay per programme you watch but i can't figure it out yet anyway.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Still using Windows 7 here. Have had very few issues but still hate the shell.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12 Viscaria


    Windows 7 is definitely an upgrade from vista, Internet explorer is still crap though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭RubyXI


    Viscaria wrote: »
    Windows 7 is definitely an upgrade from vista, Internet explorer is still crap though.

    Google chrome is an improvement on it-- not just for windows 7. just in general


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