High School Cancels Prom Because of Lesbian´s Request

Doc · 14-03-2010 01:04AM

vicecreamsundae wrote: »

you are talking about what appeals to heterosexual males.
these girls are lesbian. while hetero males and lesbians may have the odd thing in common...such as fancying women...they're not actually the SAME sexuality. not all lesbians are into femme dressing girls.
and sometimes women actually make choices about to wear based on what makes them feel good and comfortable and don't care if certain men think they would look "far better in something else".

Did you read what I posted? I said

Doc wrote:

No man thinks a woman looks good in a tux only women think this.

Lesbians are still women aren't they?

My point was very simple and addressed the people saying women look good in a Tux. The majority of men do not think so as a tux is not designed to be flattering to the shape of a womans body.

Giselle · 14-03-2010 01:09AM

Bottle_of_Smoke wrote: »

on a side think its weird she wanted to wear a tux, would have to wonder if shes actually a lesbian or is actually transgender. cant imagine gay guys showing up in dresses

Transgender and transvestite aren't the same thing.

Many lesbians don't feel comfortable conforming to the standard 'feminine' style of dressing, I don't think it has to be any weirder than that.:)

Teutorix · 14-03-2010 01:10AM

Formal do's are meh, nothing like a good house party with an awesome DJ.

You cant beat waking up with a mouth as dry as a nun's cúnt to the smell of stale drink and sweat. God damn I love parties.

vicecreamsundae · 14-03-2010 01:11AM

yeah i read what you posted. "no man thinks women look good in a tux."
and i am saying that is bull****.

some straight men do.
some gay men do. some are even fashion designers!! *gasp*
and yes, suits, with PANTS and everything can be tailored to be just as flattering to a woman's shape as a dress.

anyway, my point was arguing with whether men like women in suits, it was with the fact that lesbians generally don't give a **** what men think of their outfits. and this thread isn't about what men like to see women wearing.
this thread is actually about women's right to wear what they feel comfortable in, DESPITE what people are used to or like seeing.

Our man in Havana · 14-03-2010 01:13AM

Much ado about nothing tbh.

Piste · 14-03-2010 03:17AM

Pherekydes wrote: »

Won't half of the attendees be wearing tuxes? Hardly bringing down the tone...

Well y'see, the prom is a formal evening event, so formal evening attire is expected. A woman wearing a tux would be as silly as a guy coming in jeans and a shirt or a girl coming in a cocktail dress. If she doesn't want to dress for a formal dance then she should attend less formal dances. This goes for anyone who wants to buck the formalwear rule. If enough people want to dress more casually then maybe they should organise a less formal prom.

Herbal Deity · 14-03-2010 03:46AM

A tux is formal attire...

Society hasn't quite progressed to viewing guys wearing dresses as acceptable, but it's acceptable for women to wear trousers, and women's business suits with trousers are very acceptable. There have been tuxedos which have been designed for women. So why should they not be viewed as acceptable formal attire?

GA361 · 14-03-2010 04:27AM

The_Minister wrote: »

I think people need to remember that this is only a few miles away from the town where Morgan Freeman was born.
That town held separate proms for blacks and whites until a bout two years ago, when Freeman offered to pay the whole cost of the prom if they had an integrated one. There was resistance, but they integrated.

I think Freeman was born in Tenessee, not Mississppi . . .

The_Minister · 14-03-2010 06:05AM

GA361 wrote: »

I think Freeman was born in Tenessee, not Mississppi . . .

I beg your pardon, I just checked and he has only live in Charlston since 1991.
A documentary was made about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prom_Night_in_Mississippi
Don't know where I got the idea that he was born there.

Monkey61 · 14-03-2010 09:29AM

Piste wrote: »

Well y'see, the prom is a formal evening event, so formal evening attire is expected. A woman wearing a tux would be as silly as a guy coming in jeans and a shirt or a girl coming in a cocktail dress. If she doesn't want to dress for a formal dance then she should attend less formal dances. This goes for anyone who wants to buck the formalwear rule. If enough people want to dress more casually then maybe they should organise a less formal prom.

Jaysus what century are you living in? Formal clothing is formal clothing. A woman doesn't have to wear a dress to be formal you know... A woman wearing a suit is not the same as a guy wearing jeans. Women wear trouser suits to job interviews and all sorts of formal stuff nowadays.

plein de force · 14-03-2010 09:52AM

oh the school board there will be absolutely annihiliated if they get sued
i know i'd sue them.

seriously what's wrong with the principal, she hardly has a contagious lethal disease

stovelid · 14-03-2010 10:24AM

Couldn't she and her partner just have went as two ostensibly separate guests just to avoid the furore? Not backing the school of course, but it was probably their reactionary response was probably inevitable.

Mike 1972 · 14-03-2010 11:30AM

stovelid wrote: »

Couldn't she and her partner just have went as two ostensibly separate guests just to avoid the furore? Not backing the school of course, but it was probably their reactionary response was probably inevitable.

Yes she could

On the other hand Rosa Parks could have just gone to the back of that bus.........

Biggins · 14-03-2010 11:44AM

Bond-007 wrote: »

Much ado about nothing tbh.

They Came.

First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out - because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the communists
and I did not speak out - because I was not a communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out - because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me -
and by then there was no one left to speak out for me.

Pastor Martin Niemöller

Community and individuality are not opposites. People cannot survive on their own. When the odds are stacked against you, you must rally with the oppressed and hated.
When a growing oppressive regime is taking hold, you must act, otherwise you will soon face your enemy alone and hopeless.

Vexen Crabtree

Nodin · 14-03-2010 11:52AM

plein de force wrote: »

oh the school board there will be absolutely annihiliated if they get sued
i know i'd sue them.

seriously what's wrong with the principal, she hardly has a contagious lethal disease

Shes got teh ghey. Teh ghey is what destroyed all life on mars. If those with teh ghey get married, we'll all get it, and die.

True story.

Bottle_of_Smoke · 14-03-2010 03:22PM

Giselle wrote: »

Transgender and transvestite aren't the same thing.

Many lesbians don't feel comfortable conforming to the standard 'feminine' style of dressing, I don't think it has to be any weirder than that.:)

I'm well aware of that. AFAIK transgender is where you have the mind of one sex with the body of another. That's what I meant.

Omne would have to wonder why they don't feel comfortable being feminine, if it is just sexuality that's different. I can understand lesbians dressing butch so other girls know they're gay but hardly seems neccesary at the prom.

Sandvich · 14-03-2010 03:25PM

Piste wrote: »

She should be allowed bring a girl, but women wearing tuxes looks horrible and would bring down the tone of the prom, it's meant to be formal, can't have people wearing any old thing!

So in other words, it's necessary for it to be sexist?

No matter way you look at it, that's what you're saying. That's one of many reasons I hate "formal" things.

Piste · 14-03-2010 03:51PM

Herbal Deity wrote: »

A tux is formal attire...

Society hasn't quite progressed to viewing guys wearing dresses as acceptable, but it's acceptable for women to wear trousers, and women's business suits with trousers are very acceptable. There have been tuxedos which have been designed for women. So why should they not be viewed as acceptable formal attire?

Because there's a difference between evening formal and business formal. A woman's suit is acceptable for a job interview, an evening dress is not, even though they're both formal.

Sandvich wrote: »

So in other words, it's necessary for it to be sexist?

No matter way you look at it, that's what you're saying. That's one of many reasons I hate "formal" things.

It'd be sexist if men were allowed to wear whatever they want and women had to wear only dresses, but that's not what I'm saying, so I'll thank you not to put words into my mouth.

spurious · 14-03-2010 03:57PM

Everyone looks good in a tux - male or female.

stovelid · 14-03-2010 04:05PM

Mike 1972 wrote: »

On the other hand Rosa Parks could have just gone to the back of that bus.........

She was one of them as well? Sheesh.

Giselle · 14-03-2010 04:28PM

Bottle_of_Smoke wrote: »

I'm well aware of that. AFAIK transgender is where you have the mind of one sex with the body of another. That's what I meant.

Omne would have to wonder why they don't feel comfortable being feminine, if it is just sexuality that's different. I can understand lesbians dressing butch so other girls know they're gay but hardly seems neccesary at the prom.

Fair enough.:)

I suppose its a self image thing, if she sees herself as more butch than femme she's just not going to be comfortable in a formal dress.

Herbal Deity · 14-03-2010 05:23PM

Piste wrote: »

Because there's a difference between evening formal and business formal. A woman's suit is acceptable for a job interview, an evening dress is not, even though they're both formal.

So what category do female tuxedos fall into?

dotsman · 14-03-2010 07:06PM

Herbal Deity wrote: »

So what category do female tuxedos fall into?

Fancy dress.

Sandvich · 08-04-2010 04:12PM

It'd be sexist if men were allowed to wear whatever they want and women had to wear only dresses, but that's not what I'm saying, so I'll thank you not to put words into my mouth.

No, it's sexist if women HAVE to wear one thing, and men HAVE to wear another. That's pretty much the definition of sexist, since it's outright discriminating against the two. Just because one thing generally looks better on one gender does not mean it should be forced. That's stupid, but then again quite frankly so are most social conservatives when it comes to these issues.

sexdwarf · 08-04-2010 04:18PM

Crazy stuff, I'm a girl who took a girl to my debs, I was the only one in the year who did it, and that was ten years ago. No one even batted an eyelid. She was dead right to stand her ground

corkcomp · 08-04-2010 04:25PM

o1s1n wrote: »

Wearing tuxes looks horrible in general tbh.

yeah but we can forgive that, if it means more lesbians will attend

Lux23 · 08-04-2010 04:35PM

A friend of mine is quite butch and she wore an evening dress to her debs, I saw the photos and to be honest she looked like a sack of spuds in satin. I have seen her in a Tux and she looks really well, i think people should wear whats comfortable and suits rather then conform to some outdated rules regarding dress.

8k2q1gfcz9s5d4 · 08-04-2010 04:38PM

peanuthead wrote: »

What's the principal afraid of, that the others will catch 'gay' off her? :rolleyes:

will if that happened, they could just join the priesthood. thats how ireland fixed the gay problem until the 90s and nothing went wrong............;)

JJ · 08-04-2010 04:55PM

The plot thickens with this story. It turns out that she was sent to a decoy prom while a majority of her classmates attended a secret prom at another location:

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/820755-lesbian-teenager-sent-to-decoy-prom

Biggins · 08-04-2010 04:58PM

JJ wrote: »

The plot thickens with this story. It turns out that she was sent to a decoy prom while a majority of her classmates attended a secret prom at another location:

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/820755-lesbian-teenager-sent-to-decoy-prom

Hope she gets to still sue their asses off for discrimination or aiding and abetting it.

High School Cancels Prom Because of Lesbian´s Request

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