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57,000 X-rays not reviewed by consultant at Tallaght

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  • #62
    Mad_Max
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,322 ✭✭✭Mad_Max


    hooradiation wrote: »
    The reality isn't as bad as it's being made out. I'm not making light of this incident, I'm giving these overreactions the contempt they deserve.

    The reality can be as bad as being made out. Not all the time but more often that it should happen.

    I think people have genuine reason to have little confidence in the first few steps on our health system's ladder.

    Once you're in and they know exactly whats wrong with you, then I'd say they're good but until that stage, it's extremely easy to get fobbed off and left go un-treated.


  • #63
    OutlawPete
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    hooradiation wrote: »
    The reality isn't as bad as it's being made out.

    You're right, it's far worse.


  • #64
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    hooradiation wrote: »
    Unlikely, i find you contemptible.

    Nice, very nice.
    So much for not attacking the poster again!


  • #65
    OutlawPete
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    hooradiation wrote: »
    Not what i was talking about at all, but thanks for sharing.

    Charming, lovely bedside manner you have there.

    You're not a Doctor by any chance are ya?


  • #66
    hooradiation
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    Charming, lovely bedside manner you have there.

    You're not a Doctor by any chance are ya?

    Sure, why not.
    At this stage I'm a *deep breath* Left-liberal-pinko-babymurdering-gay-bleedingheart-elitist-doGooding-FFer-westbrit-muslim according to the fine minds of AH.
    So being a doctor would be a nice addition.

    If it helps you to label people so you can just fast track to the point where you unload all your biases in one go then i would be neglecting my duties as a doctor if i tried to stop you.


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  • #67
    Mad_Max
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,322 ✭✭✭Mad_Max


    hooradiation wrote: »
    I'm a *deep breath* Left-liberal-pinko-babymurdering-gay-bleedingheart-elitist-doGooding-FFer-westbrit-muslim according to the fine minds of AH.

    The worst part of that title :)


  • #68
    Kimbot
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 19,071 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    Most Haunted wrote: »
    Its not just tallaght that is incompetent

    My Dad was diagnosed with Liver cancer a 3 years ago and through the Last year he really lost loads of weight . He started to get really bad pains in his back and and week by week he got out of bed less and less due to the pain . Every time the Doctor came to the house he called for an ambalance which brought my dad to Blanchardstown Hospital who would give him Pain killers and send him home.

    Thats is so true.

    Tallaght hospital about 6 years ago:
    Went into A&E with a broken finger. They took X-Rays and taped the top of two of my fingers together and said all would be well in a few days. A week later when I went to see the consultant in Tallaght he sat me down had a look at my finger (Which was swollen like a balloon) and said that something was wrong. When he looked at the X-ray he seen the break was beside the knuckle and not further up my finger like I was told originally. I was in a cast for a month because of the cock up!! (Now I have had tonnes of very good experiences from Tallaght hospital aswell but this was the last time I was in there for anything)

    Last year I had a "seizure" while driving to Dublin, rang an ambulance and they brought me to Blanch hospital. I couldn't breathe (Had numerous collapsed lungs previous so this was a big worry for me), my arms from the elbow down went black and blue and I couldn't move them. They left me sitting in a chair in A&E from 11.30 in the morning until 1AM the next morning without anyone coming near me. Then when they did come and see me the docs were insistant it was drug related (I gave 3 urine samples during the day and consented to drug tests but they kept asking me how much cocaine I took). They transfered me to a ward where nobody spoke to me about what was wrong with me, they told my mother I had 40 units of alcohol in my blood when I was admitted to hospital (I haven't drank in nearly 2 years) and kept asking her about my drug use (To which she replied that I didn't take drugs and even when I got a prescription I tried not taking them unless I had to and also that I had supplied them with numerous urine samples to prove "My case"). When I finally got out of the place they sent me a bill even tho I had health insurance and told them that. However 5-6 months after I was in they sent me a letter saying that a chest X-Ray they took wasn't looked at and now they have gotten to look at it they want me to go back in because I had a severe amount of fluid on my lungs and they were worried about my safety!! God dam it with my lung history I could have been dead and buried before they copped that one the idiots!!


  • #69
    OutlawPete
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    hooradiation wrote: »
    If it helps you to label people so you can just fast track to the point where you unload all your biases in one go then i would be neglecting my duties as a doctor if i tried to stop you.

    Get this hooradiation, I DIDN'T think that you were a Doctor.

    I can't believe that you actually answered a sarcastic rhetorical question, good man :pac:


  • #70
    Optimalprimerib
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,885 ✭✭✭Optimalprimerib


    hooradiation wrote: »
    Not really.
    If i were to take the sum total of anecdotes on this thread as a measure of the state of the medical profession in Ireland, then I'd never allow myself within half a mile of any medial personnel for the rest of my days. infact we have people claiming they're terrified to go near Tallaght (or in some cases any hospital)

    Which, is of course nonsense.

    The reality isn't as bad as it's being made out. I'm not making light of this incident, I'm giving these overreactions the contempt they deserve.
    I am an average citizen and i can list 6 medical cock ups made by hospitals in the last year on local people. 2 of which involved my mother and father. Neither too serious thankfully. Wish i could say the same about the other 2.

    I know people always remember the bad incidents and the good ones are unnoticed, but come on. This is not a fly in the soup, it is matter of life and death.

    Btw, i had to edit that number of incidents 3 times as more and more came to light. That is terrifying


  • #71
    xcarriex
    Closed Accounts Posts: 129 ✭✭xcarriex


    Its not like this was the first issue to come to like there was the issue with the Thamolid (sp) injections, there was the mess up not diagnosing patients with cancer, there was the little girl who had meningitis that was originally sent home with swine flu medication, the ones mentioned on this, and god only knows how many more are to come,
    I honestly don’t think I could be trusted if I lost someone in such circumstances….
    This issue is huge, and put with all the other stories, people are actually dying un-necessarily, and its not like this guy was helping out or was double-jobbing, his actual job is to check these xrays..
    Its madness.


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  • #72
    Mad_Max
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,322 ✭✭✭Mad_Max


    I really hope that this isn't just used as a political tool to get rid of a minister/government, no matter how nice either of them scenarios would be.

    This needs to be the scandal that enforces change, real change in the service.

    My worst fear is that this makes Harney resign, the opposite grin like Cheshire cats, the public and media in large move onto other issues and someone else suffers or dies unnecessarily.


  • #73
    Bazzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭Bazzy


    Biggins wrote: »
    http://www.rte.ie/news/morningireland/

    To re-quote some words I stated in the politics section:



    ...again!

    She's on a Junkfoodet or junkett in New Zealand and this scandal breaks out


    Carlsberg dont do Coincidence but if they did ......


  • #74
    tbh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,914 ✭✭✭✭tbh


    DetectivFoxtrot wrote: »
    What the fcuk is wrong with this country!!!????

    I know I know!

    we all voted (yes we did, YES WE DID!!) for the party that promised to tax us the least amount of money, and hoped that the lack of taxation income wouldn't come back one day to bite us in the arse personally. As long as getting sick happened to other people , it was a chance we were willing to take.

    This country is all about the easy soundbites (aren't we a great friendly country - except towards nigerians! Ah sure the whole world loves us - lets' rip them off and sneer at them when they visit! Isn't the low tax great? As long as you don't need public services of course! ) but not so willing to take the hard decisions. Who's fault is that? VOTERS FAULT! we all knew it, we all went along with it, now we're looking to blame someone - anyone - for the sh1te we've bought for ourselves.

    begosh and begorrah we're a grand little country so we are :)

    What do I win?


  • #75
    yoshytoshy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭yoshytoshy


    People wanted more money in their pockets alright and were told everything was being done that could be.

    The health service doesn't need more money ,it needs reform.


  • #76
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Taoiseach Brian Cowen is under pressure to sack Health Minister Mary Harney in his expected Cabinet reshuffle over the latest scandal to rock the health service.

    Article continues...

    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/taoiseach-under-pressure-to-sack-harney-2094718.html


  • #77
    hooradiation
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    Get this hooradiation, I DIDN'T think that you were a Doctor.

    really? Oh holy wow!
    But seeing as we're sharing the fucking obvious like it's a crazy secret, here's one for you.

    I know that. You're not the first person to write something like that and believe you're being clever.
    I thought this whole charade was obvious to us both.

    I'm sorry, i won't put you in a position like this again. It's not fair on you.


  • #78
    OutlawPete
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    hooradiation wrote: »
    You're not the first person to write something like that ..

    I bet.

    Biggins' experiences with the Medical Profession are very real.

    Others have also contributed to the thread with very real issues that they have had while dealing with hospitals, some quite serious and ongoing, my heart goes out to them.

    If people don't speak out about their bad experiences then things won't change.

    The Hep C problems, the Neary situation, the misdiagnosis as a result of the Radiography scandals all came out because people spoke out and demanded explanations.

    You can't seriously expect people not to air their concerns.

    You are exaggerating what peoples opinions are with the following:
    hooradiation wrote: »
    Some people seem to be operating under the idea ... <if they go to any hospital> .. they are guaranteed to be misdiagnosed and/or a series of other awful things will happen

    Nobody is operating under that idea.


  • #79
    OutlawPete
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    Biggins wrote: »
    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/taoiseach-under-pressure-to-sack-harney-2094718.html

    Will it finally happen?

    I would say that I hope it would but I kinda think 'what's the point when I look at the selection of clowns they have to take her place.


  • #80
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    Will it finally happen?

    I'd say that I hope it does but sure their selection of clowns to take her place makes me think, what's the point.

    Well, there is a couple of possible problems.

    * She might feel "put out" at being removed and decide "well stuff you Cowen..." and give up her seat altogether.
    * Who would seriously take her place or want to? (Could you image been asked to take over the mess behind her?)
    * He (Cowen) obviously (to me anyway) has come to some sort of agreement for her to remain on the side of FF and Cowen is still (till now anyway) sticking with it.

    ...so I'd say she is here to stay till the end.
    I would be delighted to be wrong.


  • #81
    landsleaving
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,345 ✭✭✭landsleaving


    Something needs to change either way, at least this might force the governments hand and get them to act, but it's not even close to the first major scandal of its kind and not much has changed in the past, so I'm not holding my breath.

    Heart goes out to anyone affected either way.


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  • #82
    ilovelamp2000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭ilovelamp2000


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    Too long a story to go into here, but not as of yet for, a plethora of reasons.

    Well bear in mind the statute of limitations is only two years, so if you have it in your mind to go down the legal route there isn't a huge amount of time. Follow it up as soon as you can, for peace of mind if nothing else.


  • #83
    OutlawPete
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    Rosco1982 wrote: »
    Well bear in mind the statute of limitations is only two years, so if you have it in your mind to go down the legal route there isn't a huge amount of time. Follow it up as soon as you can, for peace of mind if nothing else.

    Hi, it was 2004.

    Lots of 'Red Tape' prevented things moving fast and still is.

    If anything does get resolved I will post it, that's for sure.


  • #84
    ilovelamp2000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭ilovelamp2000


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    Hi, it was 2004.

    Lots of 'Red Tape' prevented things moving fast and still is.

    If anything does get resolved I will post it, that's for sure.

    Well you might be able to get around the Statute of Limitations because of that then depending on the problem.

    Best of luck with it.


  • #85
    Töpher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,483 ✭✭✭Töpher


    bluto63 wrote: »
    The whole being Mr Surname might help prevent that

    Or indeed the need for the sex of the patient even registering with the staff given the number of months since last August.

    Some shocking stories in this thread, it's a shame they're not exactly surprising though. :(


  • #86
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Someone asked me a very good question and its something I shold have explained.
    The question they asked was "why did it take four years for an MRI scan?"

    The answer?

    The original application for one, the corresponding paperwork/charts were lost and rather than tell us this, tell the specialists or ANYONE - the culprits kept stum. Everyone else after that covered up for them and kept the secret "in-house".

    It was only after seeing that our daughter became a national media Crumlin Campaign poster child that someone got scared and owned up quietly to us what happened and we had to then re-apply and wait another 2 years.
    The period of waiting/delay was not helped again and again by cuts and closures at Crumlin - which is still happening!


  • #87
    Sofiztikated
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    I may have missed something Biggins, your we'an is in Crumlin?

    Did I see a thread on this, or did I imagine it. I'm losing my mind, I swear.

    I spent many a time in Crumlin, have to say the nurses on Our Lady's Ward were always brilliant, its a shame they're trying to make cuts where cuts shouldn't be made.


  • #88
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Sofiztikated wrote: »
    I may have missed something Biggins, your we'an is in Crumlin?
    Did I see a thread on this, or did I imagine it. I'm losing my mind, I swear.
    Your not losing your mind.
    Here is the thread: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055566501

    ..and its not the first time they have lost our daughters stuff as you will find if you wade thru the above thread.

    Its getting to the stage that we can write a whole book on the HSE disasters affecting or have effected our daughter alone - never mind the rest of the family.
    Its pure crazy.


  • #89
    yoshytoshy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭yoshytoshy


    Theres certain things I've noticed myself and have been told during the years about the hse/health department.
    Involving ,people taking records of waiting times at totally inappropriate times.
    A couple of people I know who worked for the HSE and that ended up in hospitals because of the way they were treated. One of them was determined to get things done in his area and wanted to put an end to the excess of administration ,he ended up in a mental clinic with depression.
    There are other things directly affecting family and friends but tis the internet ,so I'd rather not get into it.

    It's an absolute shame that a little island like ours ,can harvest such greedy people.


  • #90
    Sofiztikated
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    :o I know I read that thread, but for the life of me, I can't remember it!

    It truly is a shame, there is great work carried out in hospitals all over every day, but when there's a fuck up, it is monumental! AS I was saying, I know all about Crumlin, and had a disaster of a Doctor for a year, until, I suspect, he had to leave Ireland.

    No idea where he went to, but I hope the fucker isn't still practising. I'd nearly go on a witchhunt to find the bastard (I really don't like him, nearly killed me.)

    The doctor before him was grand, and after him was a genius, (and as luck would have it, my GP knows him, and studied my condition in college) and I was one of the first operations carried out in Ireland, and of that bunch, the best.

    Now I'm transferred to Tallaght, and have been waiting for 5 years, almost 6, for a yearly check up. :confused:


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  • #91
    Olduvai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 47 ✭Olduvai


    A friend of mine was diagnosed with breast cancer, had mastectomy. Afterwards, she started to complain of back pain and went to doctor who told her that it was arthritis. It was secondary bone cancer. A few weeks ago, she was feeling unwell, called the doctor who told her it was a tummy bug, three day's later she was in a morgue.... the doctor didnt understand it spread to liver - big clue she was yellow!

    If I go to a doctor, I make sure I get a copy of all written reports, films of all scans and proof read referral letters and take copies. I do the same for my family. My mum had problems a couple of years back, some idiot endocrinologist who was not treating her diabetes. It was a simple case of reviewing meds. She was having Blood glucose levels of 22 mmols. So I made sure I documented this and informed the hospital and consultant. The Consultant didnt like it. I insisted that she was referred to another hospital and she was admitted.


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