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Eastern europe, give us your poor.

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  • #92
    MikeC101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭MikeC101


    IrishManSaipan wrote: »
    Hi Nodin,

    Maybe you missed this bit, "Taxpayers face paying millions of pounds in extra benefits to Eastern European immigrants because of changes to EU regulations".

    We are also members of the EU.

    Thanks a million.

    Changes made seven years ago - the Workers Registration Scheme being implemented for the maximum seven years during the transition period, no?

    (The article isn't all that heavy on background details)

    My question, again, is did we have a similar scheme, or are we already operating under the directive?


  • #93
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    IrishManSaipan wrote: »
    Hi Nodin,

    Maybe you (....)EU.
    Thanks a million.

    There are differences between EU states you know.

    Now, with regard to this....
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=64797881&postcount=72

    Why are you posting/linking anti-semetic material on this site?


  • #94
    IrishManSaipan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭IrishManSaipan


    MikeC101 wrote: »
    I'm asking if we had a similar one in Ireland, or if we are already operating in line with the directive.

    Yes, we have a similar directive. We very nearly allowed them access to social welfare from the start but toed behind the UK at the last minute.


  • #95
    IrishManSaipan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭IrishManSaipan


    Nodin wrote: »
    There are differences between EU states you know.

    Now, with regard to this....
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=64797881&postcount=72

    Why are you posting/linking anti-semetic material on this site?

    That site is for the Armenian diaspora. I posted it on the Armenian Genocide thread to throw the cat amongst the pigeons and give an Armenian point of view, however controversial.

    Nice smear attempt. Bravo.


  • #96
    Executive Steve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,373 ✭✭✭Executive Steve


    Nodin wrote: »
    You still haven't explained why you were posting anti-semetic material either.......
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=64797881&postcount=72



    Would also be nice to find out if Godwin's law actually applies over on Stormfront; I'm sure he'd be well able to give us a definitive answer on that one, and I've always wondered.


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  • #97
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,266 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    At least it will help the motor industry, because they're all going to get brand new beemers. They will also be getting free houses, which will sort out the glut of empty properties all over the country.

    I have this on good authority from a very reliable source.


  • #98
    K-9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,313 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    IrishManSaipan wrote: »
    The can sign up with the health board. They will provide payment whilst their claims are being processed.

    Can't they already do this though?

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • #99
    IrishManSaipan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭IrishManSaipan


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    At least it will help the motor industry, because they're all going to get brand new beemers. They will also be getting free houses, which will sort out the glut of empty properties all over the country.

    I have this on good authority from a very reliable source.

    Link to it so.:rolleyes:


  • #100
    Executive Steve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,373 ✭✭✭Executive Steve


    IrishManSaipan wrote: »
    That site is for the Armenian diaspora. I posted it on the Armenian Genocide thread to throw the cat amongst the pigeons and give an Armenian point of view, however controversial.

    Nice smear attempt. Bravo.




    Did the only "excellent article" from the Armenian point of view on the whole wide internet really have to contain references to the Jews' "Satanic Bible, the Talmud"?

    I'm a pro-Palestine smelly hard left Liberal myself, but as Wilde pointed out many years ago, "Antisemitism is vulgar and ungrateful, they're the only people who lend money"


  • #101
    IrishManSaipan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭IrishManSaipan


    K-9 wrote: »
    Can't they already do this though?

    You tell me, can they? I dont know.


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  • #102
    Executive Steve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,373 ✭✭✭Executive Steve


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    At least it will help the motor industry, because they're all going to get brand new beemers. They will also be getting free houses, which will sort out the glut of empty properties all over the country.

    I have this on good authority from a very reliable source.



    The trickle down effect from all the brand new prams that will be left on the street at bus stops will be marvelous too.


  • #103
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    IrishManSaipan wrote: »
    That site is for the Armenian diaspora. I posted it on the Armenian Genocide thread to throw the cat amongst the pigeons and give an Armenian point of view, however controversial.

    Nice smear attempt. Bravo.


    You stated, and I quote
    Heres an excellent article on the Armenian genocide.


    Heres a sample of that "excellent article".....
    All this according to the percepts of the Talmud, the Satanic Bible of the Jews, which encourages Jews to kill, directly or indirectly, by sayings like: "Every Jew who spills the blood of the godless, is doing the same as making a sacrifice to God." Talmud: Bammidber Raba c21 & Jalkut 772. In the eyes of Tamudists all non-Jews are godless. And "It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah. The Christians belong to the denying ones of the Torah." Talmud: Coschen Hamischpat, Hagah 425. Very neatly put sentence indeed.

    Link

    Theres further such nonsense concerning Masons and "infiltrated" Jews therein.
    IrishManSaipan wrote: »
    That site is for the Armenian diaspora.

    And of all the Armenian sites and the articles upon them you selected that site, with that clearly anti-semetic, semi-coherent babble on it....


  • #104
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,266 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Executive Steve wrote: »
    Would also be nice to find out if Godwin's law actually applies over on Stormfront; I'm sure he'd be well able to give us a definitive answer on that one, and I've always wondered.

    Don't OPs get banned if they don't Godwin a thread straight off?


  • #105
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    super_furry wrote: »
    Time to make unemployment benefit less attractive financially then.


    It already is - Ireland has the third lowest rate of UB in the EU15.
    Second link

    Did you mean UA?


  • #106
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Executive Steve wrote: »
    The trickle down effect from all the brand new prams that will be left on the street at bus stops will be marvelous too.

    And the work in the garages, getting Government money to buy the free cars for the immigrants.....


  • #107
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,266 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    IrishManSaipan wrote: »
    Link to it so.:rolleyes:


    I've already said too much:eek:


  • #108
    IrishManSaipan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭IrishManSaipan


    Executive Steve wrote: »
    Did the only "excellent article" from the Armenian point of view on the whole wide internet really have to contain references to the Jews' "Satanic Bible, the Talmud"?

    An awful lot of Armenians blame Jews on the Armenian genocide, not the Turks. In a thread on the Armenian Genocide, all viewpoints should be added to the mix.

    I didnt write the article. I didnt agree with the article. But it gave the reader an insight into the bad feeling and seething hatred that is still felt over the Armenian Genocide.

    I found it interesting. Things arent always as simple as they may seem.


  • #109
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    At least it will help the motor industry, because they're all going to get brand new beemers. They will also be getting free houses, which will sort out the glut of empty properties all over the country.

    I have this on good authority from a very reliable source.

    The same source told me anyone who can turn up at a hairdressers with proof they're black will get free haircuts.


  • #110
    MikeC101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭MikeC101


    IrishManSaipan wrote: »
    Yes, we have a similar directive. We very nearly allowed them access to social welfare from the start but toed behind the UK at the last minute.

    Thanks. Any idea what it's called?

    But won't Jobseeker's Allowance still have the Habitual Residence requirement?

    And Jobseekers Benefit will need the required amount of PRSI payments (though probably transferable from other EU countries)? Plus, as previous posters have mentioned, we're quite low in the EU as regards Benefit - wouldn't someone be better off going for Belgium instead?


  • #111
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    IrishManSaipan wrote: »

    I found it interesting. Things arent always as simple as they may seem.

    Please elaborate.


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  • #112
    IrishManSaipan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭IrishManSaipan


    MikeC101 wrote: »
    Thanks. Any idea what it's called?


    I dont off the top of my head. I will find it later on during the week and post it up.
    MikeC101 wrote: »
    But won't Jobseeker's Allowance still have the Habitual Residence requirement?


    Nope, not under the new legislation. Once they are here for three months and they can prove that they have been actively seeking work, undergone training or attended job interviews.


    MikeC101 wrote: »
    And Jobseekers Benefit will need the required amount of PRSI payments (though probably transferable from other EU countries)?

    If an EU citizen has paid two years worth of contributions in an EU country and have made a PRSI contribution in Ireland, they can claim JB here.


  • #113
    K-9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,313 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    IrishManSaipan wrote: »
    You tell me, can they? I dont know.

    Ah right, I thought you'd have checked it out seeing as you posted it 3 times already.

    If they can claim it, it kind of blows a massive hole in what you are saying.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • #114
    kodute
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 829 ✭✭✭kodute


    IrishManSaipan wrote: »
    An awful lot of Armenians blame Jews on the Armenian genocide, not the Turks. In a thread on the Armenian Genocide, all viewpoints should be added to the mix.

    I didnt write the article. I didnt agree with the article. But it gave the reader an insight into the bad feeling and seething hatred that is still felt over the Armenian Genocide.

    I found it interesting. Things arent always as simple as they may seem.

    Damn it, almost had a full blown Godwin in 8 pages! Ya had to ruin it by citing Armenians instead of Jews!

    Instead of reading this nonsense I'm waiting for Berlin to come riding in with her magical czechbook and pay the bill for these hordes of dole monkeys. Long live the EU gravytrain!


  • #115
    IrishManSaipan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭IrishManSaipan


    K-9 wrote: »
    Ah right, I thought you'd have checked it out seeing as you posted it 3 times already.

    If they can claim it, it kind of blows a massive hole in what you are saying.

    Whilst your claim is being processed you can pay the health board or the community welfare officer a visit and they will issue you with payment if they deem it fit.


  • #116
    IrishManSaipan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭IrishManSaipan


    kodute wrote: »
    Damn it, almost had a full blown Godwin in 8 pages! Ya had to ruin it by citing Armenians instead of Jews!

    Instead of reading this nonsense I'm waiting for Berlin to come riding in with her magical czechbook and pay the bill for these hordes of dole monkeys. Long live the EU gravytrain!

    Yer man Nodin was hounding me with questions from different threads. I only answered the chaps questions.


  • #117
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    IrishManSaipan wrote: »
    I dont off the (........)claim JB here.

    Thats nice. Now - about the article with "the Jews satanic Bible - the Talmud", "infiltrated Jews" and their masonic conspiracys......You stated
    I found it interesting. Things arent always as simple as they may seem.

    What do you mean by that?


  • #118
    IrishManSaipan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭IrishManSaipan


    Nodin wrote: »
    Thats nice. Now - about the article with "the Jews satanic Bible - the Talmud", "infiltrated Jews" and their masonic conspiracys......You stated



    What do you mean by that?

    If you are really interested and not just derailing the thread, PM me.

    You can repost all my PM replies in one single post on this or the Armenian thread. Thats if you are genuinely interested......


  • #119
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    IrishManSaipan wrote: »
    If you are really interested and not just derailing the thread, PM me.

    You can repost all my PM replies in one single post on this or the Armenian thread. Thats if you are genuinely interested......

    I've no interest in PM's. Post your answer in the armenian thread and I'll stop raising in this.


  • #120
    MikeC101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭MikeC101


    IrishManSaipan wrote: »
    Nope, not under the new legislation. Once they are here for three months and they can prove that they have been actively seeking work, undergone training or attended job interviews.

    I don't know that this will be the case in Ireland (possibly it will in the UK). It may be for Jobseekers Benefit, but it's possible Jobseekers Allowance will still retain the Habitual Residency requirement. Consider this article in the Examiner this year points out that under Habitual Residency Legislation, even returning Irish citizens have been denied Jobseekers Allowance. It doesn't say anything about the legislation beyond that, but equally the Mail article doesn't really go into detail - so it's hard to know.
    IrishManSaipan wrote: »
    If an EU citizen has paid two years worth of contributions in an EU country and have made a PRSI contribution in Ireland, they can claim JB here.

    So they have to have been working for two years and worked in Ireland to get JB - plus there are other countries that provide far more attractive JB payments - we seem to be one of the lowest in the EU.


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  • #121
    Kivaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    Nodin wrote: »
    I've no interest in PM's. Post your answer in the armenian thread and I'll stop raising in this.

    And of course you won't get cited for trolling as your leanings might be similar to a particular mod in here.

    Hey Mike72, don't forget to thank my post .........


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