Replacing a Glowworm PCB

wadk · 06-03-2010 02:33PM

GopErthike wrote: »

No spark is the key, probably electrodes damaged.
You need to get it diagnosed correctly from the start or it will end up costing more.
Bord gais saying it was a pcb over the phone was silly. A guy changing the pcb without diagnosing is too. At least he didn't charge!

You hit the nail on the head,a case of the blind leading the blind with some engineers,basic steps,inner flue blocked at the terminal?,is there any spark at all?he'd of needed to remove the front cover to notice considering the spark is at that the rear with the burner bar?,inlet pressure at the meter?,so on so forth. spark generater if not electrodes.i think lol

JohnnieK · 07-03-2010 12:09AM

wadk wrote: »

I'm a registered service engineer and i've never had to replace
a gas valve on an 18si.

Just changed a gas valve on one today, they do go, but not that often.

I hope skelly comes back and lets us know what the out come is.

JohnnieK · 07-03-2010 12:14AM

wadk wrote: »

You hit the nail on the head,a case of the blind leading the blind.

As iv said on other threads here not all RGI's are good service engineers. Some dont even know how to service them properly, and they are the ones getting the work.

RGII should be seperated into two sections. Installations and Servicing/repair.

wadk · 07-03-2010 01:54AM

JohnnieK wrote: »

Just changed a gas valve on one today, they do go, but not that often.

I hope skelly comes back and lets us know what the out come is.

No doubt skelly will,but great coincidence,and to be honest i've a contract on 40 to 50 18si's and over the past five years never ever but this is the way it goes.

wadk · 07-03-2010 02:02AM

JohnnieK wrote: »

As iv said on other threads here not all RGI's are good service engineers. Some dont even know how to service them properly, and they are the ones getting the work.

RGII should be seperated into two sections. Installations and Servicing/repair.

Anybody can do a GI/D or GI/S or even a GI/FF and still couldn't bless themseves.Hands on is the only way so plumbers beware.This is why i took the time out years ago.

And RGII ARE A JOKE!!, 200euro membership a year for the privelage of working on gas and not so much as a scrap generated bare awarness to consumers.

Micky Dolenz · 07-03-2010 11:28AM

wadk wrote: »

And RGII ARE A JOKE!!, 200euro membership a year for the privelage of working on gas and not so much as a scrap generated bare awarness to consumers.

Anything that tries to bring up the standar is a good thing. Your RGI may not be up on fixing boilers but atlest they should have safe practices. I would agree that there is very little information for both RGI and consumers. Below would be a case of point.

skelly22 wrote: »

Funnily enough, as the last RGI guy I had over was replacing the PCB, he suggested I'd be able to do it myself next time as it was supposedly pretty straightforward. When I told him I thought that was illegal he seemed bemused and said that as it was electrical work only there shouldn't be a problem.....

This is quite shocking but not surprising. i tried to find some written evidence but came up short. The reason I know is becasue I asked the head of RGII last year at a meeting and discussed the point at lenght with him.

skelly22 · 08-03-2010 10:56AM

JohnnieK wrote: »

Just changed a gas valve on one today, they do go, but not that often.

I hope skelly comes back and lets us know what the out come is.

Don't worry guys, you'll be the first to know as soon as I get it resolved. Was supposed to have someone over on Saturday but he couldn't make it so today should be the day, can't wait to see what's wrong with the bloody thing myself at this stage!

skelly22 · 10-03-2010 11:37AM

Well, the RGI that was supposed to come out Monday didn't show and I haven't heard from him since. Not going to bother chasing him as I'd rather deal with someone I can rely on so it's a case of back to the Yellow Pages for me! I'll keep you posted.

GopErthike · 10-03-2010 12:18PM

Don't go to the yellow pages, what's your general area?

skelly22 · 10-03-2010 12:31PM

I'm in Greystones, Co. Wicklow, I think that's where most people with GW 18si's live!

Merch · 12-03-2010 08:50AM

Hmm agree not much info on the RGI, I did look up their site tho Micky Dolenz

It seems to say
A Declaration of Conformance Certificate has to be issued every time a RGI is carrying out gas works. It is a mandatory requirement as defined in The Energy (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 2006. There are three types of Certicates for New Installations (Meter Installation), Boiler Replacement and Services.
If there are different categories of certs then you think the people to be certing them would have a different type/category of RGI certification, I was present when a relative was getting their boiler serviced and they weren't offered to see an RGI card ID, think that might be a good idea for RGI to promote and maybe some kind of info on it to say they have a card for servicing not just installs??

PS looks like I didnt break any laws after all, last time I looked in there was Jan '09, says it came into effect only in june '09

GopErthike · 12-03-2010 10:18AM

Any joy with this skelly? I thought if you posted your general area someone might reccomend somebody who could help. I would always avoid the yellow pages and try get someone reccomended to you for this type of work.

Pete67 · 12-03-2010 12:28PM

Hi folks, a lot of knowledgeable people on here. Quick question, a relative has an electrician coming to update the controls on his heating system. Currently he has only a timeswitch built into the boiler, the electrician has quoted him for a programmable wireless room thermostat to allow setback etc. Assuming the sparks will need to connect the wireless receiver module to the boiler terminal block, does he need to be an RGI? Or if he were to get an RGI to do the work would he in turn have the necessary electrical knowledge and equipment to carry out, test and certify the work in accordance with the ETCI wiring regulations? Or does he now need two people to do a relatively simple job?

Micky Dolenz · 12-03-2010 05:28PM

Pete67 wrote: »

Hi folks, a lot of knowledgeable people on here. Quick question, a relative has an electrician coming to update the controls on his heating system. Currently he has only a timeswitch built into the boiler, the electrician has quoted him for a programmable wireless room thermostat to allow setback etc. Assuming the sparks will need to connect the wireless receiver module to the boiler terminal block, does he need to be an RGI? Or if he were to get an RGI to do the work would he in turn have the necessary electrical knowledge and equipment to carry out, test and certify the work in accordance with the ETCI wiring regulations? Or does he now need two people to do a relatively simple job?

No, the sparks can work away. Basically he won't have to remove cover of boiler to do what he needs to do. A RGI working on external heating controls would not need to issue a cert either.

skelly22 · 12-03-2010 06:28PM

GopErthike wrote: »

Any joy with this skelly? I thought if you posted your general area someone might reccomend somebody who could help. I would always avoid the yellow pages and try get someone reccomended to you for this type of work.

No joy yet GopErthike, the guy that was supposed to come around last Saturday & didn't show finally rang me yesterday to say he'd be around but by this stage I'd organised for someone else to come around today and now they haven't shown!!! Can you believe it?! I've been badly let down on this so far by Bord Gais and any RGI I've dealt with. I'd better get it sorted over the weekend though otherwise my wife will be looking for a divorce!! Watch this space....

JohnnieK · 14-03-2010 12:37AM

skelly22 wrote: »

No joy yet GopErthike, the guy that was supposed to come around last Saturday & didn't show finally rang me yesterday to say he'd be around but by this stage I'd organised for someone else to come around today and now they haven't shown!!! Can you believe it?! I've been badly let down on this so far by Bord Gais and any RGI I've dealt with. I'd better get it sorted over the weekend though otherwise my wife will be looking for a divorce!! Watch this space....

I cant believe after all this time no one has come to sort your boiler out. It is an absolute discrase. I do be around the Graystones and Kilcool area from time to time but not due back there for a couple of weeks.

skelly22 · 19-03-2010 06:47PM

Well guys, I finally got it sorted. Got a plumber to call out through my brother-in-law, turns out it was only the spark generator that needed replacing. The guy called out on Tuesday evening and spent about an hour diagnosing the problem and came back today with the part and had it up & running in about 10 mins. It was nice to deal with somebody who knew what he was doing. Total charge was €110 including the part which I was only too delighted to give to the guy, especially considering the €600 I was initially told it would cost me to fix. Thanks for all the help & advice guys throughout the 5 weeks my boiler has been down, it really was a great help and much appreciated. Cheers for now.

Replacing a Glowworm PCB

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