Anyone but England' T-shirt

Dudess · 24-02-2010 05:30PM

I find English commentators to be either objective, self-deprecating, or in the event of them letting their guard slip, vaguely hinting they'd like England to win (rare - and not necessarily inappropriate) whereas I find Irish commentators much more likely to be biased, with the "our lads in green" stuff.

I could be wrong, but I suspect (and I'm not being smart - honestly) this perceived bias by English commentators is all in the heads of some Irish people... simply because these are English commentators?

major bill · 24-02-2010 05:31PM

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

No - you tell me where you've seen or heard it, becaue i do watch BBC sport and it rarely happens. Not counting ITV tabloid feckers - no better than Hamilton when we played the Italians in 1994 and wer on the verge of a major international achieve after just 20 mins.

ooh with that attitude NO!! as i said the world cup draw was nothing short of cracking open the bubbly, ''rarely happens'' com'on they make george sound sane!!! so sorry ikky poo and im right in saying alot of people are put off from the english team cos of overexpecting people like motson and the t1ts on ITV.

Dudess · 24-02-2010 05:34PM

DB10 wrote: »

And again, supporting "England because they are close to us". This is nothing to do with football is it, you are just an attention seeker.

I'd also support England because it is close to us, not to be an attention seeker - and also because of all the great stuff to come out of there which I (and I'm sure you) enjoy. Valid reason IMO. Look at the millions of Irish descent living in England. Makes more sense to support them on those grounds than to support e.g. Germany because of its history v England - THAT to me is the attention seeking.

What Premiership team do you support?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 24-02-2010 05:36PM

major bill wrote: »

ooh with that attitude NO!! as i said the world cup draw was nothing short of cracking open the bubbly, ''rarely happens'' com'on they make george sound sane!!! so sorry ikky poo and im right in saying alot of people are put off from the english team cos of overexpecting people like motson and the t1ts on ITV.

So, you come across a coherent argument and dismiss it as an "attitude".

This idea of English commentators thinking thet have a devine right to win is what is defined as an "urban myth": no one's ever actually seen it happen, but we all know it's true. Why...?

Because we WANT it to be true...

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 24-02-2010 05:36PM

That_Guy wrote: »

Why France?

I am not sure, but I think it would have something to do with Thierry "the bastard" Henry?

Why these types of t-shirts need to be printed/sold is beyond me. Stupid really. Express your hatred of a whole country, fcuking morons wear these kinds of t-shirts.

I rather see a neighbouring country like England win the world cup than some South American team... yet again...

kingofburt · 24-02-2010 05:39PM

I can understand why a scottish company is printing these shirts, I've been living here for the last year and the media is very english focused, very noticable in the national press after rugby games, large english story, then wales and scotland.

Even buying a mars bar in scotland lets you know you're helping to sponsor the English team. TBH, its quite similar to most non dubs supporting anyone but Dublin in GAA due to the dublin based media broadcasting to the country.

major bill · 24-02-2010 05:42PM

Brylee Broad Sushi wrote: »

I am not sure, but I think it would have something to do with Thierry "the bastard" Henry?

Why these types of t-shirts need to be printed/sold is beyond me. Stupid really. Express your hatred of a whole country, fcuking morons wear these kinds of t-shirts.

I rather see a neighbouring country like England win the world cup than some South American team... yet again...

its not hatred of a whole country!! it would be like liverpool fans buying t-shirts saying anybody but united(ABU) its rivalry and its football nothing more.

DB10 · 24-02-2010 05:43PM

So what? Millions more Irish people live in Australia, will you be supporting them as well?

I think it is pathetic how so many people belittle our country and go out of their way to praise England which is such a wonderful place.

It fools nobody.

DB10 · 24-02-2010 05:45PM

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

So, you come across a coherent argument and dismiss it as an "attitude".

This idea of English commentators thinking thet have a devine right to win is what is defined as an "urban myth": no one's ever actually seen it happen, but we all know it's true. Why...?

Because we WANT it to be true...

Eh no unless you ignorantly ignore the British media headed by the likes of Sky Sports who hype up the English National team every 5 minutes.

Seriously open your eyes.

OutlawPete · 24-02-2010 05:46PM

Brylee Broad Sushi wrote: »

Why these types of t-shirts need to be printed/sold is beyond me. Stupid really. Express your hatred of a whole country, fcuking morons wear these kinds of t-shirts..

If I seen someone where the 'Anyone But France' T-Shirt this year in a pub, then I'm buying them a pint.

How would they be a moron?

It's good old rivalry and letting every French fan know that they are there not because they scored enough goals, but that a member of their team cheated.

Now before the "Get Over It.." brigade get their up on their high horses.

The moment that this whole debacle will leave my system is the moment I hear Motson say "And France are out..".

If they win the thing, I'll never get over it.

"Some people believe football is a matter of life and death,
I am very disappointed with that attitude.
I can assure you it is much, much more important than that."

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 24-02-2010 05:47PM

major bill wrote: »

its not hatred of a whole country!! it would be like liverpool fans buying t-shirts saying anybody but united(ABU) its rivalry and its football nothing more.

You know as well as I do, that this t-shirt won't be worn "for the laugh", you will find a group of uneducated "ra heads" wearing it.

What reason would you have for wanting any other country in the world, even france ffs, to win the world cup? Hatred...

There's no reason for us to want them to lose so badly, is there? We are not even in the fcuking world cup...

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 24-02-2010 05:48PM

OutlawPete wrote: »

If I seen someone where the 'Anyone But France' T-Shirt this year in a pub, then I'm buying them a pint.

How would they be a moron?

It's good old rivalry and letting every French fan know that they are there not because they scored enough goals, but that a member of their team cheated.

Now before the "Get Over It.." brigade get their up on their high horses.

The moment that this whole debacle will leave my system is the moment I hear Motson say "And France are out..".

If they win the thing, I'll never get over it.

"Some people believe football is a matter of life and death,
I am very disappointed with that attitude.
I can assure you it is much, much more important than that."

That's differant, we have a very very good reason to not want those feckers to win the world cup.

major bill · 24-02-2010 05:49PM

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

So, you come across a coherent argument and dismiss it as an "attitude".

This idea of English commentators thinking thet have a devine right to win is what is defined as an "urban myth": no one's ever actually seen it happen, but we all know it's true. Why...?

Because we WANT it to be true...

as i say i couldnt care if they win or not i dont support international football but i and im not alone struggle to watch a game on BBC or ITV due to the commentators patronising comments and little smart remarks on the game.

OutlawPete · 24-02-2010 05:49PM

Brylee Broad Sushi wrote: »

We are not even in the fcuking world cup...

Which is why I'll be wearing my French one ..

Dudess · 24-02-2010 05:51PM

DB10 wrote: »

I think it is pathetic how so many people belittle our country and go out of their way to praise England which is such a wonderful place.

If not having a problem with England/praising all the great stuff to come out of there means "belittling" Ireland, then I think it's pathetic how so many people just will not let the past go...

It fools nobody.

Who's it trying to fool?

And you didn't answer my question: what Premiership team do you support?

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 24-02-2010 05:51PM

OutlawPete wrote: »

Which is why I'll be wearing my French one ..

Sorry, I meant the ones for England. The way I precieve it to be is patriotism gone wrong. Hating the country because of the last 700 800 years or so.

major bill · 24-02-2010 05:54PM

Brylee Broad Sushi wrote: »

You know as well as I do, that this t-shirt won't be worn "for the laugh", you will find a group of uneducated "ra heads" wearing it.

What reason would you have for wanting any other country in the world, even france ffs, to win the world cup? Hatred...

There's no reason for us to want them to lose so badly, is there? We are not even in the fcuking world cup...

its football, football is in a way ''hatred'' very strong word though id rather disliking

aliroly · 24-02-2010 05:55PM

kingofburt wrote: »

I can understand why a scottish company is printing these shirts, I've been living here for the last year and the media is very english focused, very noticable in the national press after rugby games, large english story, then wales and scotland.

Really!!!! What papers are you reading???

I think Scottish editions of papers tend to lead with the local stuff... Spl takes precidence over Epl (unlike here) and Scottish match reports ahead of English.

The mars bar thing is just because they are manufactured and distributed across the UK. Rather than England and Scotland seperatly.

Edit: Oops... Think I may have read that wrong. Yeah we are very sick of having to listen to the English.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 24-02-2010 05:57PM

DB10 wrote: »

So what? Millions more Irish people live in Australia, will you be supporting them as well?

I think it is pathetic how so many people belittle our country and go out of their way to praise England which is such a wonderful place.

It fools nobody.

What's pathetic is believeing british journalists to ultra jingoistic, failing to show any links whatsover and then using it as an excuse to cheer AGAINST a particular country. If anything, half of them go out of their way to UNDERMINE England's attempt to win.

No one's belittleing Ireland, why in the hell did you bring that up?

DB10 wrote: »

Eh no unless you ignorantly ignore the British media headed by the likes of Sky Sports who hype up the English National team every 5 minutes.

Seriously open your eyes.

See above.

major bill wrote: »

as i say i couldnt care if they win or not i dont support international football but i and im not alone struggle to watch a game on BBC or ITV due to the commentators patronising comments and little smart remarks on the game.

...which you have again failed to locate again...?! Come on, it's not like I asked you to find Amelia Earheart!!

Anyway, if you want quality incisive informative commentary, I'm sure George Hamilton and Ryle Nugent will be doing thier best on RTE.

Dudess · 24-02-2010 06:00PM

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

No one's belittleing Ireland, why in the hell did you bring that up?

Duh... are you stoopid? Not having a problem with England and enjoying all the stuff that comes out of there (including football - funny that) equates to "belittling Ireland"/going all out to OTT praise England as "this wonderful place".

major bill · 24-02-2010 06:01PM

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

What's pathetic is believeing british journalists to ultra jingoistic, failing to show any links whatsover and then using it as an excuse to cheer AGAINST a particular country. If anything, half of them go out of their way to UNDERMINE England's attempt to win.

No one's belittleing Ireland, why in the hell did you bring that up?

See above.

...which you have again failed to locate again...?! Come on, it's not like I asked you to find Amelia Earheart!!

Anyway, if you want quality incisive informative commentary, I'm sure George Hamilton and Ryle Nugent will be doing thier best on RTE.

fritzel never went around shouting that his kids were in the basement but he knew in his head they were;)

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 24-02-2010 06:08PM

major bill wrote: »

fritzel never went around shouting that his kids were in the basement but he knew in his head they were;)

Are you Sterling Archer? Seriously?

Deception and thread-hijacking does not help your argument!!

Nate--IRL-- · 24-02-2010 06:10PM

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OutlawPete · 24-02-2010 06:10PM

Brylee Broad Sushi wrote: »

Sorry, I meant the ones for England. The way I precieve it to be is patriotism gone wrong. Hating the country because of the last 700 800 years or so.

I take your point.

I don't hate the English.

English people have made my life great in so many ways.

Ronnie Barker, Gary Shaw, David Bowie, John Cleese, Ozzy, Billy Idol, Bruce Robinson, Ron Atikinson, George Cole, BrummyTom, Enid Blyton, Sooty and Sweep etc etc

However, when England take to the pitch I will be up for the other side. That is of course, unless they meet France.

In which case, then it will be the first time I have supported England since 1945.

oppenheimer1 · 24-02-2010 06:11PM

DB10 wrote: »

Eh no unless you ignorantly ignore the British media headed by the likes of Sky Sports who hype up the English National team every 5 minutes.

Seriously open your eyes.

The BBC and other English media isn't meant for Irish consumption. In fairness how can any Irish person complain about football coverage by the english, for the english! They are just pandering to their audience, which you would expect, which also happens in Ireland.

24-02-2010 06:13PM

Brylee Broad Sushi wrote: »

I rather see a neighbouring country like England win the world cup than some South American team... yet again...

Of the previous 18 tournaments, there have been 9 winners from South America and 9 from Europe. Of the beaten finalists, 14 of them have been European.

super_furry wrote: »

The great thing is, anyone wearing that t-shirt here will be back wearing a Liverpool/Manchester United/Chelsea/Arsenal jersey once the World Cup's over.

Whats that got to do with anything? The National team and the premiership are completely separate entities. Wanting to see either of them succeed and the other fail doesn't make one a hypocrite.

Dudess · 24-02-2010 06:14PM

Well it does make a person a hypocrite if their reasons for wanting England not to win is because of an historical hatred of the English.

major bill · 24-02-2010 06:15PM

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Are you Sterling Archer? Seriously?

Deception and thread-hijacking does not help your argument!!

dont know who he is so meh:P

OutlawPete · 24-02-2010 06:15PM

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

The BBC and other English media isn't meant for Irish consumption..

Bunch of thanks for this post, please.

Your remark was in reply to a comment about Sky Sports.

Eh, I pay for my Sky Sports, thanks very much.

Töpher · 24-02-2010 06:19PM

Dudess wrote: »

Duh... are you stoopid? Not having a problem with England and enjoying all the stuff that comes out of there (including football - funny that) equates to "belittling Ireland"/going all out to OTT praise England as "this wonderful place".

Don't be ridiculious! DB10 supporting Arsenal as an Irishman (or teenager unable to grow enough facial hair, as the case may be...) is in no way similar to enjoying/funding something that hails from her majestys shores, so therefore he can despise England and all that it gives birth to as much as he wants with one glaring multi-million pound money making exception, without being a hypocritical twat.

For what its worth, I'd imagine he is a staunch reader of the Irish Sun and the Irish Daily Mail - gotta keep the loyalties in check.

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