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Friend going too far

  • 23-02-2010 05:35PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,005 ✭✭✭✭


    I have a friend who is in her early 30's. We often go out together hoping to find Mr. Right. She was going out with a guy for six weeks. It turned out that he was married and living with his wife and children. This was about 5 years ago. She now hates meeting married guys on the prowl. She often hangs around with them all night and disappears at the end after getting them to buy loads of drink. Recently she brought a guy home thinking he was ok. Three days later, after no contact she saw him with children. She hung around and saw him bring them to a car. They all sat in the car. After a few minutes a woman came out of a nearby hairdressers and came towards them. She took out her phone and photagraphed the woman. She waited until they drove off and went back to the hairdressers. She said that she had found a silver ring( showing them her own ring) in the car park and she thought a woman who had come out of their shop had dropped it. She described the woman she had photographed. They gave her the name and phone number of the woman. A few days later the guy contacted her asking for a date. She agreed to a date.
    When he called around to collect her I was in the apartment with her. She let him in and sat him down. Then she told him she knew he was married. She showed him the photograph and told him his wife's name. He was shocked. She then told him that unless he did exactly as she told him she would tell his wife. She then spent a few hours humiliating him. She got me involved in it as well. It was hilarious and we had a good giggle afterwards.
    The thing is she now wants to contact him and force him to come around so she can do the same thing again. She also wants to get more of our friends involved. I think she is going too far. He might turn violent. She says that he deserves it, he is only a rat. I don't know what to do. I do not want to break up a friendship over an unfaithful husband, but I think she should move on.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,034 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    Your friend sounds psychotic. I'd stay well away!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭SheRa


    You got a good giggle from humiliating this guy? I don't think that its just your friend that has issues. If your friend suggests this again tell her that you don't want to and i suspect that she won't push it as she needs you to go out with her to pick up mr. Right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,394 ✭✭✭ManOfMystery


    What she's doing is not only wrong on an ethical level, it's illegal.

    Tell her to move on. Stooping to his level will only make her as bad as him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,005 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Mad Mini wrote: »
    I have a friend who is in her early 30's. She often hangs around with them all night and disappears at the end after getting them to buy loads of drink.

    what a waste of her time..literally... how does she ever hope to meet Mr Right, when she occupies herself with men already taken?...why is she consciously doing this?

    The thing is she now wants to contact him and force him to come around so she can do the same thing again. She also wants to get more of our friends involved. I think she is going too far.


    this is totally warped, i'm sorry... don't involve yourself in this... if she has to do something this lame and wrong, to feel better about herself, it is very sad... she should making the most of her freedom and be out there enjoying herself...give her a wide berth...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    Fair enough, punish him once with a good laugh as he should not of tried to cheat on his wife. However thats enough. Tell her that he isn't worth it and to forget about it. If that doesn't work, tell her to grow up a bit and that you want her to move on. Before it gets out of hand or obsessive. It may not be now but it can turn.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,909 ✭✭✭Agent J


    Reverse the sexes in this story and there would be an outcry.
    Imagine if a man did that to a woman?


    Your friend sounds like they need serious mental help if thats how they get their kicks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36 FiennesJ


    Single white female spings to mind. :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    It seems to me that your friend has issues with being in her 30's and not married. She probably feels regected by men and is taking out her frustration on this poor guy (admitedly he's an ass too) What you and your friend did was just awful, psycopathic. Leave him alone, its not his fault the two of you are single...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭Jo King


    What she's doing is not only wrong on an ethical level, it's illegal.

    Tell her to move on. Stooping to his level will only make her as bad as him.


    What is illegal about it? Unless she is demanding money there is no crime.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,788 ✭✭✭ztoical


    Jo King wrote: »
    What is illegal about it? Unless she is demanding money there is no crime.

    depending on what the OP means by "humiliating" it can be viewed as abuse or assault.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,404 ✭✭✭PirateShampoo


    What the **** is wrong with you?

    Your mate is sick in the head, if she is willing to go so far the first time where will the second time lead 2?

    If this was the other way around at it was 2 men doing it to a women then you would be looking at a stretch inside if it was reported to the police.

    Your best off staying well clear of your friend as situations like with could snowball real fast and you could end up in a world of ****.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 939 ✭✭✭Aurora Borealis


    Please tell me this is a troll?! The mind boggles at such crazy behaviour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,371 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    Tell her she's had her fun and enough is enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭Doop


    Troll troll troll troll troll troll troll troll troll troll troll troll troll


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭Jo King


    ztoical wrote: »
    depending on what the OP means by "humiliating" it can be viewed as abuse or assault.

    There are lots of ways of humiliating someone without assaulting them. There is no crime or tort of abuse per se. If,for example, they had told the guy to write out a hundred lines of "I am a cheating two faced rat who tried to pretend that I was not married despite being married with children", that would not be an assault. What would be illegal about it.
    It is ridiculous to say something is illegal without knowing details. The o/p should not continue to take part however.
    She should tell her friend something to frighten her off the guy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    no idea of where a legal line would be crossed but morally its either blackmail or stalking if it continues. as others mentioned once was "ok" as I think someone in that situation is entitled ot their gotcha moment.
    Its also dangerous, in the unlikey situation that the man has a violent personality, backing him into a corner could backfire badly.
    Nothing good can come from this so OP should put a stop to it.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    Any further Unhelpful and Off Topic posting will result in bans being issued. If you have a problem with a post please use the report post function.

    Thank you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,420 ✭✭✭Lollipops23


    If this is true then it's extremely disturbing. Fair enough the guy is a creep for trying to start something with your mate but it's not illegal to have an affair. And I can deal with the confrontation re the picture of his wife etc but she really shouldn't be getting a kick out of it.

    She may just need someone to reign her in. If you feel you're getting kicks out of this too I'd seriosuly question whether you're the right person to do this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 773 ✭✭✭Barracudaincork


    You think she has gone far enough but yet dont want to lose her friendship if you dont agree to do it again, i have to ask what kind of friend dumps you for not agreeing to what they want for starters?

    I also have to ask what kind of person are you being friends with if this is how they behave? People are judged by the company they keep. Are you happy to be associated with someone like this? Someone who has such revenge in their heart and has so many private personal issues, you may need to stay clear while they sort out their head, for your own sake.

    Stand up to your bully friend and say you are too mature and have too much respect for yourself to lower yourself to humilating another human being again.

    PS i dont care he was married, two wrongs dont make a right.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭Miss Fluff


    Mad Mini wrote: »
    She then told him that unless he did exactly as she told him she would tell his wife. She then spent a few hours humiliating him. She got me involved in it as well. It was hilarious and we had a good giggle afterwards.

    How exactly did you humiliate him? Was your behaviour threatening or abusive? You do realise you could both me in a whole world of sh1t for getting involved in this type of behaviour don't you?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    I have deleted some of the unhelpful posts here. Bans/Infractions have been issued and more will be if this continues.

    Thats 2 on-thread warnings now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 578 ✭✭✭Peggypeg


    Hey OP,

    Going to get killed here but I think your friend is a genius. I mean WOW I would have given anything to see his face when he realised he was rumbled. I think he does deserve to be humiliated, cheating on his poor wife and children, what a scumbag. If I was your friend I would have had his wife there waiting for him though, not you!!!

    Now saying that, I wouldn't continue on with this at all, blackmail is when you say "if you don't do this, I will do this", it is illegal and also immoral no matter how much of a scummer he is. Just tell her that you don't think it's right or safe or legal to continue on with this, if she wants to go further with it tell her to tell the man's wife, which is really what should have been done in the first place.

    Best of luck OP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭Davei141


    Peggypeg wrote: »
    Hey OP,

    Going to get killed here but I think your friend is a genius. I mean WOW I would have given anything to see his face when he realised he was rumbled. I think he does deserve to be humiliated, cheating on his poor wife and children, what a scumbag. If I was your friend I would have had his wife there waiting for him though, not you!!!

    Now saying that, I wouldn't continue on with this at all, blackmail is when you say "if you don't do this, I will do this", it is illegal and also immoral no matter how much of a scummer he is. Just tell her that you don't think it's right or safe or legal to continue on with this, if she wants to go further with it tell her to tell the man's wife, which is really what should have been done in the first place.

    Best of luck OP.

    Spot the nutcase.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 578 ✭✭✭Peggypeg


    Davei141 wrote: »
    Spot the nutcase.

    Excuse you, I'm far from a nutcase, if you don't like my opinion that's fine but don't throw around insults if you don't agree with me, just state your own opinion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,044 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Davei141 banned for personal abuse.

    Peggypeg please report posts rather then responding to them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 578 ✭✭✭Peggypeg


    Sorry Thaedydal, will do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,788 ✭✭✭ztoical


    Jo King wrote: »
    There are lots of ways of humiliating someone without assaulting them. There is no crime or tort of abuse per se. If,for example, they had told the guy to write out a hundred lines of "I am a cheating two faced rat who tried to pretend that I was not married despite being married with children", that would not be an assault. What would be illegal about it.
    It is ridiculous to say something is illegal without knowing details.

    Under the Non-Fatal Offences Against The Person Act 1997 forcing someone to write out a hundred lines aginist their will or under treat [ie I'll tell your wife] is assault. Physical abuse and verbal abuse are viewed as one and the same so even if she didn't physically touch him if she abused him with words it falls under the 97 act.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,044 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Also please do not thank posts which break the forum and site rules,
    if this becomes and issue then we will have to make policy on it and infract for doing so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,404 ✭✭✭PirateShampoo


    Peggypeg wrote: »
    Hey OP,

    Going to get killed here but I think your friend is a genius. I mean WOW I would have given anything to see his face when he realised he was rumbled. I think he does deserve to be humiliated, cheating on his poor wife and children, what a scumbag. If I was your friend I would have had his wife there waiting for him though, not you!!!


    First off, u nor anybody here knows what this mans home life situation is. For all you know is a loveless marriage and both partners are sleeping with other people.

    Secondly lets flip this around.

    If this was a women who had been trapped the same way has this man and was forced into a humiliating show for 2 male abusers, would your opinion be the same as the one you have above?

    And if it does change your opinion, then shouldnt the man have the same rights as the women?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 578 ✭✭✭Peggypeg


    First off, u nor anybody here knows what this mans home life situation is. For all you know is a loveless marriage and both partners are sleeping with other people.

    Secondly lets flip this around.

    If this was a women who had been trapped the same way has this man and was forced into a humiliating show for 2 male abusers, would your opinion be the same as the one you have above?

    And if it does change your opinion, then shouldnt the man have the same rights as the women?

    Hey,

    Yeah true, for all I know the wife's celibate and has no problem with her husband sleeping around, usually though marriages tend to be monogamous so I think it would be fairly safe to assume that he intended to cheat, I do admit there could be some other circumstances that would excuse it but I'd say he would have mentioned them to the OP.

    In answer to your second question, I would laugh just as hard at a female cheater getting caught and getting her cumuppance. And yes I do believe that men and women should be treated equally.

    Peg.


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