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Volvo V50 sick of Uk Eire price differences

  • 22-02-2010 03:29PM
    #1
    Erren Music
    Closed Accounts Posts: 384 ✭✭


    Hi all. While looking for a 5 series touring I happened upon the v50.

    Only problem is the price difference between here and UK again.

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    A € 104




    Irish price V50 1.6D Drive € 29,896

    gov scrap 1,500 volvo scrap 2,420

    TOTAL € 25,976

    uk PRICE

    Volvo V50 1.6D DRIVe S Start/Stop

    On the Road Price £20.545 Less Government Scrappage contribution £1,000 Less Manufacturer Scrappage contribution £3,984 Scrappage On the Road Price £15,561

    So Volvo are offering the UK almost €5,000 euro along with the gov scrappage. This is unacceptable. The VRT on this car new is only €2,900.


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  • #2
    testicle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,429 ✭✭✭testicle


    So buy it in the UK, claim back the UK VAT, and pay VRT and Irish VAT.


  • #3
    VolvoMan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,309 ✭✭✭VolvoMan


    Just to let you know, the V50 is a lot smaller than a 5 Series Touring.


  • #4
    Erren Music
    Closed Accounts Posts: 384 ✭✭Erren Music


    VolvoMan wrote: »
    Just to let you know, the V50 is a lot smaller than a 5 Series Touring.

    I know, but a new car for 21 grand or a 4 year 5 series:rolleyes:

    One of my friends has an s40 and I was very impressed with it.


  • #5
    Erren Music
    Closed Accounts Posts: 384 ✭✭Erren Music


    testicle wrote: »
    So buy it in the UK, claim back the UK VAT, and pay VRT and Irish VAT.

    I have just phoned an Irish dealer and I asked him why there was such a difference. Do Volvo Uk and Eire cars come from the same distributor?


  • #6
    Anan1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    I don't see how the UK gov. scrappage will be available on a car for export, and I don't think the Volvo UK 'scrappage' discount will be either.

    The best thing for the OP to do, IMO, is to get quotes for the car tax-free in the UK, add VAT and VRT, and then buy wherever it's cheapest. Also, don't forget to specify km/h clocks.


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  • #7
    VolvoMan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,309 ✭✭✭VolvoMan


    Erren Music wrote: »
    I know, but a new car for 21 grand or a 4 year 5 series:rolleyes:

    One of my friends has an s40 and I was very impressed with it.

    They are a good car all right. I just felt the need to point that out to you.


  • #8
    Saab Ed
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭Saab Ed


    I dont think you're comparing apples with apples OP. First you cant get UK scrappage on an Irish car and secondly you're basing your figures on list price discounts. Call an Irish Volvo dealer and ask him what he can really do a new V50 for with all the scrappage allownaces off the car. My guess is it will be there or there abouts the same.


  • #9
    Swingguru
    Closed Accounts Posts: 51 ✭✭Swingguru


    Just bought a 1.6d SE in NI. 2 years old, 20K miles in amazing condition for £11k. Bargain or what? Great car, comfortable and very economical. Bit of class about it as well. Get yourself up to SMW or Greers in NI and pick up a nearly new bargain!


  • #10
    Erren Music
    Closed Accounts Posts: 384 ✭✭Erren Music


    I can land this one new for under €21k. thats a bargain


    So VAT free 13,243 stg Vat(17.5%)


    13,243.00 GBP=15,067.03 EUR

    http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert.cgi?Amount=13%2C243&From=GBP&To=EUR


    €15,067 x 21% =€2,781


    Total €17,848, then add VRT say €3,000

    total to pay €20,848


  • #11
    Erren Music
    Closed Accounts Posts: 384 ✭✭Erren Music


    Saab Ed wrote: »
    I dont think you're comparing apples with apples OP. First you cant get UK scrappage on an Irish car and secondly you're basing your figures on list price discounts. Call an Irish Volvo dealer and ask him what he can really do a new V50 for with all the scrappage allownaces off the car. My guess is it will be there or there abouts the same.

    Sorry my point is that Volvo are giving potential UK buyers 5 thousand euros scrap allowances

    Volvo ireland are giving us 2,500 euros


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  • #12
    Swingguru
    Closed Accounts Posts: 51 ✭✭Swingguru


    RIP OFF IRELAND AGAIN!!


  • #13
    Saab Ed
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭Saab Ed


    Erren Music wrote: »
    Sorry my point is that Volvo are giving potential UK buyers 5 thousand euros scrap allowances

    Volvo ireland are giving us 2,500 euros

    .....yeah but off a higher list price. UK prices are just about what you'll buy the car for, another words if the car is advertised at 20 grand then you'll not buy it for much under 19,800 were as Irish list prices can be reduced by 1000's of euro. Its just the way the systems are...silly really.


  • #14
    Erren Music
    Closed Accounts Posts: 384 ✭✭Erren Music


    Swingguru wrote: »
    Just bought a 1.6d SE in NI. 2 years old, 20K miles in amazing condition for £11k. Bargain or what? Great car, comfortable and very economical. Bit of class about it as well. Get yourself up to SMW or Greers in NI and pick up a nearly new bargain!

    Do you have a linky to it.

    I only started thinking about V50 yesterday.

    They are the S40 in estate, is that the only difference?

    What year or month did the sub 120 gm Co2 come in?


  • #15
    Swingguru
    Closed Accounts Posts: 51 ✭✭Swingguru


    Think you should be looking at the 1.6 drive e d with start/stop. That comes in at 109g I think. gets a combined 77mpg!! Only launched a few months ago.


  • #16
    Swingguru
    Closed Accounts Posts: 51 ✭✭Swingguru


    Erren Music wrote: »
    Do you have a linky to it.

    I only started thinking about V50 yesterday.

    They are the S40 in estate, is that the only difference?

    What year or month did the sub 120 gm Co2 come in?


    I only started looking 2 weeks ago by accident. Saw them by mistake, took a test drive and was v impressed. Was intending to buy an A6 saloon.....but was is a much more sensible option on the wallet, pump and insurance!


  • #17
    Erren Music
    Closed Accounts Posts: 384 ✭✭Erren Music


    Saab Ed wrote: »
    .....yeah but off a higher list price. UK prices are just about what you'll buy the car for, another words if the car is advertised at 20 grand then you'll not buy it for much under 19,800 were as Irish list prices can be reduced by 1000's of euro. Its just the way the systems are...silly really.

    What?

    Uk list price is £20,545stg.

    That is about €23,500 euro and then €3,000 vrt.

    The 3.5 % VAT difference is about 500 quid

    SO the UK price is still the Euro equivalent of €27,000

    the Irish one is still €29,986

    What was your point?


  • #18
    VolvoMan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,309 ✭✭✭VolvoMan


    Erren Music wrote: »
    Sorry my point is that Volvo are giving potential UK buyers 5 thousand euros scrap allowances

    Volvo ireland are giving us 2,500 euros

    What county are you in? If it's Dublin, you should give Spirit Motor Group a shout.

    It sometimes pays to shop around.


  • #19
    R.O.R
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,735 ✭✭✭✭R.O.R


    Erren Music wrote: »
    I can land this one new for under €21k. thats a bargain


    So VAT free 13,243 stg Vat(17.5%)


    [

    Where is £13,243 coming from?

    £20,545 - £3,984 = £16,561

    £16,561 less 17.5% VAT = £14,094.47


  • #20
    Erren Music
    Closed Accounts Posts: 384 ✭✭Erren Music


    Swingguru wrote: »
    I only started looking 2 weeks ago by accident. Saw them by mistake, took a test drive and was v impressed. Was intending to buy an A6 saloon.....but was is a much more sensible option on the wallet, pump and insurance!

    How much was VRT and the stg exchange.

    How much all up in Euro's


  • #21
    Erren Music
    Closed Accounts Posts: 384 ✭✭Erren Music


    VolvoMan wrote: »
    What county are you in? If it's Dublin, you should give Spirit Motor Group a shout.

    It sometimes pays to shop around.

    I just spoke to someone in Volvo and they just kept repeating that its an English car and the prices are different.

    I tell you some dealers here have very poor service. They are not interested in dealing.

    Volvo UK are doing a 3 year service pack for £100stg.

    Isn't that fantastic.


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  • #22
    thebiglad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,722 ✭✭✭thebiglad


    Swingguru wrote: »
    RIP OFF IRELAND AGAIN!!

    Maybe Volvo in UK can get a better price on the vehicles to begin with due to higher volume.

    Maybe Volvo have been making higher profits per unit in UK

    Maybe its rip off UK


  • #23
    Erren Music
    Closed Accounts Posts: 384 ✭✭Erren Music


    thebiglad wrote: »
    Maybe Volvo in UK can get a better price on the vehicles to begin with due to higher volume.

    Maybe Volvo have been making higher profits per unit in UK

    Maybe its rip off UK

    If that is the case why don't dealers here just source their cars from UK and cut out whomever is making the vast profit.


  • #24
    Swingguru
    Closed Accounts Posts: 51 ✭✭Swingguru


    I think its well known fact that Ireland is the European capital of 'Rip-Off'! Have you seen the queue of cars coming into Newry on a Sat?


  • #25
    Anan1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    Erren Music wrote: »
    If that is the case why don't dealers here just source their cars from UK and cut out whomever is making the vast profit.
    Why don't you? It's not as if pricing differentials are anything new, pretty much anything can be bought cheaper by shopping around.


  • #26
    keithclancy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    Erren Music wrote: »
    What?

    Uk list price is £20,545stg.

    That is about €23,500 euro and then €3,000 vrt.

    The 3.5 % VAT difference is about 500 quid

    SO the UK price is still the Euro equivalent of €27,000

    the Irish one is still €29,986

    What was your point?

    31.995 Euros here in the Netherlands for the Base 1.6D Start/Stop...

    Don't know how you make out Ireland is a Ripoff.

    Maybe your should compare Euro to Euro rather than the Fluctuating Euro to Sterling.

    Edit:
    Pricelist here:
    http://www.volvocars.com/nl/all-cars/volvo-v50/Documents/index.html


  • #27
    Alun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,549 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    .. or better still try Denmark. Kr 360,104 = €48,379 :)


  • #28
    keithclancy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    Alun wrote: »
    .. or better still try Denmark. Kr 360,104 = €48,379 :)

    Flamin nora ! ...

    Sickening though .. im 50 Km from the German border.... cheapo car heaven..


  • #29
    Alun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,549 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    keithclancy wrote: »
    Flamin nora ! ...

    Sickening though .. im 50 Km from the German border.... cheapo car heaven..
    Tell me about it .. I lived in the Netherlands for 13 years, also only 60km or so from the border at Venlo. Damned BPM! (Dutch equivalent of our VRT).

    One thing that was popular at the time I was there was to order a car with the minimum of extras, and if possible get them fitted at the dealers after delivery, which were then not subject to BPM. Obviously not possible for everything but for stuff that could be fitted afterwards some big savings could be made.


  • #30
    L-M
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    A cousin of mine has a Volvo S40 2.0D with 150,000kms and his co worker a V50 1.6D with (well had) 160,000kms.

    They've both had loads of problems, the biggest being the V50 needing a new engine. (At a dealer cost of nearly 15k :eek:) And both cars are serviced of the button. He had a 06 Passat with 160,000, and besides needs lots of new tyres (due to the tyre fitter fitting the wrong tyres) he didn't have half as many problems.

    Also the Cabin is very cramped, they're fairly small inside them.Plus the fact on long trips, besides having a nice head rests, they're actually fairly uncomfortable. If you were buying new I'd be looking at the likes of the Insignia, Passat Tdi, etc. Wouldn't be toon keen on the Volvo, but drive one first and seen what you think.


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  • #31
    Erren Music
    Closed Accounts Posts: 384 ✭✭Erren Music


    Anan1 wrote: »
    Why don't you? It's not as if pricing differentials are anything new, pretty much anything can be bought cheaper by shopping around.

    I want to support whats left of the industry in Ireland.

    But if I can personally buy cars cheaper from UK, import them and pay all duties, what is stopping the buying power of major dealers doing the same thing.

    I cannot understand why there is a difference. Surely the bulk buying power would reduce the price even further.

    The BS you get from ringing a dealer and their nonsense about thats what we have to pay blah blah blah.
    keithclancy wrote: »
    31.995 Euros here in the Netherlands for the Base 1.6D Start/Stop...
    So it's list price is 2,000 euro's more.

    Still not much compared to the €21,000 euro from the UK with all taxes paid.


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