O Dea Resigns as Minister of Defence

Caoimhín · 19-02-2010 09:22AM

Wow, you are on the ball.

Agent Smith · 19-02-2010 09:23AM

Hank_Jones wrote: »

Poor Willie is going to step down from the cabinet apparently.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2010/0219/breaking2.html

*rolls up Newspaper

BOLD!

Hank_Jones · 19-02-2010 09:23AM

Caoimhín wrote: »

Wow, you are on the ball.

I'm glad my on the ballness impresses you.

jaykay74 · 19-02-2010 09:24AM

is it yesterday again ?

Diageio_Man · 19-02-2010 09:29AM

when in rome

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 19-02-2010 09:30AM

i told you not to mess with the Bovril, didn;t I?

Hank_Jones · 19-02-2010 09:33AM

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

i told you not to mess with the Bovril, didn;t I?

Just one more cup, I can handle it.
*holds out shaky cup*

RoadKillTs · 19-02-2010 09:38AM

Bye Willie. I will miss your moustache and your silly antics.
Maybe he could set up his own brothel now seeing as he will have lots of free time on his hands.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 19-02-2010 09:38AM

Hank_Jones wrote: »

Just one more cup, I can handle it.
*holds out shaky cup*

U can not haz.

Biggins · 19-02-2010 09:48AM

RoadKillTs wrote: »

Bye Willie. I will miss your moustache and your silly antics.
Maybe he could set up his own brothel now seeing as he will have lots of free time on his hands.

Have no fear, give him 6 months, a lowering of media interest, a simmering low level dose of local political work and he will be rewarded by some "position" or other in a department or quango.
Come the next election, he will be seated on the opposition benches I have no doubts.
The dozy "sheep" of his constituency will put him there again.

You can't get rid of a bad thing. Just look at the rest of the Mafia still there to prove that!

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 19-02-2010 09:58AM

Biggins wrote: »

Have no fear, give him 6 months, a lowering of media interest, a simmering low level dose of local political work and he will be rewarded by some "position" or other in a department or quango.
Come the next election, he will be seated on the opposition benches I have no doubts.
The dozy "sheep" of his constituency will put him there again.

You can't get rid of a bad thing. Just look at the rest of the Mafia still there to prove that!

As long as the dozy sheep put him in opposition, I'd consider it a start.

Biggins · 19-02-2010 10:01AM

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

As long as the dozy sheep put him in opposition, I'd consider it a start.

Aye - reminds me of the saying "the lesser of two evils"

Cookie_Monster · 19-02-2010 10:51AM

So he lied in Court and gets to resign rather than being sacked?
How nice, (and €100k leaving payment to boot)

I wonder what would happen to an "ordinary" person who lied in court.

Scumbag, he should be jailed :mad:

Lux23 · 19-02-2010 11:15AM

Madness. Why should he have to step down for defaming a Shinner as if such a thing were possible!!

Biggins · 19-02-2010 11:27AM

Some time ago a person (they just mentioned it on the radio) lied to a court (he refused to give testimony and went back on previous already given statements) and he was found to also have lied to a court, having also committed purgery thus was sentenced to a year in an jail.
Then along comes O'Dea and does exactly the same!

What does he get? The majority of the Dail (remember, including ALL the Greens and ALL the independents too) standing up and supporting him.
Talk about one rule for us and one rule for the privileged rest!
So as to the question:

Why should he have to step down for defaming a Shinner as if such a thing were possible!!

..because you either believe that we should all be held accountable under the law (and some day that might include a "shinner!" too) or you think its ok to bend the law for a few when it suits someone's personal needs and/or agenda - or in this case - to help keep FF afloat in number of held seats!
( You will note he didn't stand down as a TD! AND while he continues as a TD, Mr O'Dea will receive a "golden parachute" payment of almost €100,000 in compensation for losing his cabinet post. )
Yet another lovely "payoff" - please note!

This is a man that if a tape hadn't eventually (by a journalist) been produced to orally show he had lied, would have maintained his lies and allowed a court sentence to stand and a innocent man be found further guilty for fcuks sake!

SeaFields · 19-02-2010 11:31AM

Biggins wrote: »

Talk about one rule for us and one rule for the privileged rest!

All animals are equal, some animals are more equal than others. :rolleyes:

Biggins · 19-02-2010 11:32AM

SeaFields wrote: »

All animals are equal, some animals are more equal than others. :rolleyes:

Orwell is turning in his grave and whispering "I told ya so!"

SeaFields · 19-02-2010 11:34AM

Biggins wrote: »

Orwell is turning in his grave and whispering "I told ya so!"

There is more than Orwell turning in his grave the way things are playing out in this country of ours.

hooradiation · 19-02-2010 11:36AM

Biggins wrote: »

Orwell is turning in his grave and whispering "I told ya so!"

Would it be too much to ask for you to give the fucking theatrics a rest for once?

Biggins · 19-02-2010 11:38AM

hooradiation wrote: »

Would it be too much to ask for you to give the fucking theatrics a rest for once?

"theatrics"

Get the fcuk!

Sorry you don't like other peoples thought and statements. You know what? Tough!
Stop supporting FF for fcuks sake and wake up - please see a larger picture!

galah · 19-02-2010 11:41AM

so, the country is broke, but yet they magically find money for all these payoffs even after people have proven to be less than honourable. Nice.

Those 100 k would probably pay for two nurses for a year...

I love it when they get their priorities right...

gent9662 · 19-02-2010 11:52AM

Maybe he'll take off that silly wig and mustache and reveal who he really is.

http://www.nonsolobiografie.it/personaggi/primopiano_julius_groucho_marx.jpg

Biggins · 19-02-2010 12:00PM

galah wrote: »

so, the country is broke, but yet they magically find money for all these payoffs even after people have proven to be less than honourable. Nice.
Those 100 k would probably pay for two nurses for a year...
I love it when they get their priorities right...

...and continuing as a TD gets his €100,000 approx wages (1,900 a week approx) still, and "expenses"...
Nice.

SeaFields · 19-02-2010 12:17PM

Biggins wrote: »

...and continuing as a TD gets his €100,000 approx wages (1,900 a week approx) still, and "expenses"...
Nice.

Its like the Carlsbery ad...

Fianna Fail doesnt do resignations but when they do they are the best resignations in the world.

Payouts, expenses, pats on the back, colleagues singing your praises in the media. You couldn't make it up!

tbh · 19-02-2010 12:22PM

Biggins wrote: »

Then along comes O'Dea and does exactly the same!

let me just get this right - you're saying O'Dea committed perjury?

AnonoBoy · 19-02-2010 12:26PM

tbh wrote: »

let me just get this right - you're saying O'Dea committed perjury?

Did he not lie in an affidavit?

I'm not sure but is that not tantamount to perjury?

Biggins · 19-02-2010 12:26PM

tbh wrote: »

let me just get this right - you're saying O'Dea committed perjury?

I'm saying, the press is saying and the public is saying that his actions/word are the same actions as others before him that eventually were found guilty of "perjury".
As an official complaint with gardai over alleged perjury by Mr O'Dea is now lodged, it remains to be seen as to the outcome.
His actions still stand in comparison to those before him in the meanwhile.

tbh · 19-02-2010 12:27PM

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Did he not lie in an affidavit?

I'm not sure but is that not tantamount to perjury?

not, it's very different. Perjury is when you say something, under oath, that you know to be untrue. The court and the injured party both accepted that this was not the case, therefore, there is no conviction - as of today - for perjury.

it may seem like semantics, but what the guy did was bad enough without resorting to "theatrics".

tbh · 19-02-2010 12:28PM

Biggins wrote: »

I'm saying, the press is saying and the public is saying that his actions/word are the same actions as others before him that eventually were found guilty of "perjury".
As an official complaint with gardai over alleged perjury by Mr O'Dea is now lodged, it remains to be seen as to the outcome.
His actions still stand in comparison to those before him in the meanwhile.

with respect, the press are not saying it, because if they said it, they'd get sued. Because it's not true. Best leave the legal stuff to the legal process, and attack him for what he actually did, not what you think he did.

AnonoBoy · 19-02-2010 12:29PM

tbh wrote: »

not, it's very different. Perjury is when you say something, under oath, that you know to be untrue. The court and the injured party both accepted that this was not the case, therefore, there is no conviction - as of today - for perjury.

Fair enough. However I can see where Biggins is coming from.

O Dea Resigns as Minister of Defence

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