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Tesco fire "King"

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    that is a great story a king who works in tesco redicolous


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,137 ✭✭✭✭28064212


    coyle wrote: »
    I thought to be an asylum seeker, ya have to be in mortal danger in your home country? Clearly this isnt the case.
    While not specified in the story, it would seem clear that he is an immigrant, but not an asylum seeker. Also, it's completely irrelevant to the story. Whether he went home to Nigeria for the time periods specified, or went to Donegal, Tesco didn't follow the dismissal procedures required

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,444 ✭✭✭Absurdum


    phew....I thought Tesco got rid of King crips there for a minute


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,276 ✭✭✭Alessandra


    If I showed up for work 2 weeks late I'd be sacked as well.

    How can he be "king" if he's not residing in the village anymore? Did he provide proof that he was doing his "regal duties" in the 6 weeks he had off?
    This was something that would probably require him to have regular time off work and I don't think too many employers would be sympathetic to him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭OctavarIan


    So neither Tesco or the king-in-waiting could produce copies of any of the letters? What a total fail.

    "Sir we sent you several letters to inform you of the length of your stay."
    "Em, uhh, no you didn't...?"
    "We did, we filed copies right here... oh wait, um, we totally did send them!"
    "You did not!"
    "Did too!"
    "Did not!"

    Farce.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    28064212 wrote: »
    While not specified in the story, it would seem clear that he is an immigrant, but not an asylum seeker.

    Ok, I'll bite, how is it clear that he is an immigrant. And how does that work i.e. getting immigrant status from a country like Nigeria? As far as I know, I do not think he is a doctor.

    The question in a lot of people's minds and thankfully it is a question that we can now ask without fear of the usual labels: If he was in such fear for his life in Nigeria that he claimed asylum or refugee status in Ireland, how come he goes back to an area where he is well known?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,350 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    28064212 wrote: »
    While not specified in the story, it would seem clear that he is an immigrant, but not an asylum seeker. Also, it's completely irrelevant to the story. Whether he went home to Nigeria for the time periods specified, or went to Donegal, Tesco didn't follow the dismissal procedures required

    Perhaps he arrived on a state visit lasting 25 years, and his silver carriage and team of 6 white horses turned into a cab at the stroke of midnight after Tesco told him to feck off.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 777 ✭✭✭.SONIC.


    im gonna find him, give him my account details and then get all his billions that are stuck in an african bank!!

    i wonder did he try to bribe the judge with said proposition


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭Millicent


    Kivaro wrote: »
    Ok, I'll bite, how is it clear that he is an immigrant. And how does that work i.e. getting immigrant status from a country like Nigeria? As far as I know, I do not think he is a doctor.

    The question in a lot of people's minds and thankfully it is a question that we can now ask without fear of the usual labels: If he was in such fear for his life in Nigeria that he claimed asylum or refugee status in Ireland, how come he goes back to an area where he is well known?

    What, exactly, has that got to do with this thread? His immigration status isn't the point (and obviously, he was cleared to be here if a major employer like Tesco employed him).
    In its determination yesterday, the tribunal said the company's failures included not providing Mr Agbaje with a representative during the disciplinary hearing.

    Tesco circumvented the law and got themselves a slap on the wrist. Whether he is a refugee or not has nothing to do with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,784 ✭✭✭Puck


    I thought this might be about Elvis. :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,137 ✭✭✭✭28064212


    Kivaro wrote: »
    Ok, I'll bite, how is it clear that he is an immigrant. And how does that work i.e. getting immigrant status from a country like Nigeria? As far as I know, I do not think he is a doctor.

    The question in a lot of people's minds and thankfully it is a question that we can now ask without fear of the usual labels: If he was in such fear for his life in Nigeria that he claimed asylum or refugee status in Ireland, how come he goes back to an area where he is well known?
    I'm guessing you didn't read the second sentence of my post, where I pointed out that it has no relevance to the story? Anyway...:

    You realise that there aren't special rules for "a country like Nigeria"? Getting "immigrant status" is much the same as getting it when moving here from the US. You don't have to be a doctor to move to Ireland. Or even have 3rd level education.

    And why would that be the question in a lot of people's minds? It's nothing to do with the story, nowhere is it mentioned that he was in fear of his life, and nowhere does it say he sought asylum

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    28064212 wrote: »
    I'm guessing you didn't read the second sentence of my post, where I pointed out that it has no relevance to the story? Anyway...:

    There is relevance but you obviously cannot see it.
    28064212 wrote: »
    You realise that there aren't special rules for "a country like Nigeria"?

    I did not realize that Nigeria was part of the EU and their citizens could immigrate here legally. My mistake.
    If a person wanted to move and work in Ireland from the US, a visa is required.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,273 ✭✭✭twowheelsonly


    28064212 wrote: »
    While not specified in the story, it would seem clear that he is an immigrant, but not an asylum seeker. Also, it's completely irrelevant to the story. Whether he went home to Nigeria for the time periods specified, or went to Donegal, Tesco didn't follow the dismissal procedures required


    And I'm sure that he didn't follow best work practice either.
    If you jump off a high building you can expest to get hurt.
    If you don't turn up for work because you decide to extend your holidays off your own bat then you can expect to lose your job. Simple.

    This Procedure and Red Tape is gone way over the top. Why should Tesco (or any other employer) have to go chasing him because he does his own thing? People have to take responsibility themselves and expect to lose their job if they behave in this manner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Just the thought of a Nigerian king standing before his people giving his first speech as king in a thick Offaly accent has me in stitches.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,969 ✭✭✭donkey balls


    Kivaro wrote: »
    There is relevance but you obviously cannot see it.



    I did not realize that Nigeria was part of the EU and their citizens could immigrate here legally. My mistake.
    If a person wanted to move and work in Ireland from the US, a visa is required.

    in order for a person from a non eu country looking to reside in ireland they must apply for a work visa these visas are normally for skilled workers
    where we have a shortage of people doing that particular job.
    austrialia have something similar called a skilled migration visa(were the aplicant has to prove the skills&experience they have match what the oz govt is looking for)

    however a person coming from a non eu country who does not have qualifications to meet the visa application could get sponsor ship from a company even if there skill set is not regonised in order to gain a work visa through the normal channels.
    this would require the company sponsoring the applicant,they would have to advertise the job in a local paper/website and prove to the dept trade&enterprise that there is no eu citizen who is eligable to work here to fill the job.
    only then would they issue a work visa which costs the employer 500e a year.
    and on another piont i had two nigerians working in my company who fled nigeria(due to persecution) yet every year they fecked off home for three weeks holiers(and allways took an extra week saying that they missed there flight:rolleyes:).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,740 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    and on another piont i had two nigerians working in my company who fled nigeria(due to persecution) yet every year they fecked off home for three weeks holiers(and allways took an extra week saying that they missed there flight:rolleyes:).

    chancer scumbags


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,304 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Kivaro wrote: »
    Ok, I'll bite, how is it clear that he is an immigrant. And how does that work i.e. getting immigrant status from a country like Nigeria? As far as I know, I do not think he is a doctor.

    The question in a lot of people's minds and thankfully it is a question that we can now ask without fear of the usual labels: If he was in such fear for his life in Nigeria that he claimed asylum or refugee status in Ireland, how come he goes back to an area where he is well known?

    If he is was an asylum seeker, he shouldn't be working. Tesco have a lot more to worry about. They should be fined for employing illegal immigrants.

    Personally, that would make me assume he was here legally and so wasn't claiming refugee status, so I think your question is not needed in this case.

    Still, it is a stupid finding, but it wouldn't be the first from the tribunal. It's crazy they said he shared some responsibility and he still wins.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭Millicent


    K-9 wrote: »
    If he is was an asylum seeker, he shouldn't be working. Tesco have a lot more to worry about. They should be fined for employing illegal immigrants.

    Personally, that would make me assume he was here legally and so wasn't claiming refugee status, so I think your question is not needed in this case.

    Still, it is a stupid finding, but it wouldn't be the first from the tribunal. It's crazy they said he shared some responsibility and he still wins.

    Agree with everything you said. The reason Tesco was given a fine though was for failing to offer him representation at his disciplinary meeting. It's bully boy tactics. Bad as his behaviour was, he's entitled to a union rep.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    K-9 wrote: »
    If he is was an asylum seeker, he shouldn't be working. Tesco have a lot more to worry about. They should be fined for employing illegal immigrants.

    It's all this terminology that is confusing. If a person is an asylum seeker and gains refugee status, are they not then an immigrant and entitled to work? Or removing the work 'immigrant', isn't a refugee allowed to work?

    I'm trying to figure out how it was clear he was an immigrant from an earlier post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭Millicent


    Kivaro wrote: »
    It's all this terminology that is confusing. If a person is an asylum seeker and gains refugee status, are they not then an immigrant and entitled to work? Or removing the work 'immigrant', isn't a refugee allowed to work?

    I'm trying to figure out how it was clear he was an immigrant from an earlier post.

    Does it matter?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,304 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Kivaro wrote: »
    It's all this terminology that is confusing. If a person is an asylum seeker and gains refugee status, are they not then an immigrant and entitled to work? Or removing the work 'immigrant', isn't a refugee allowed to work?

    I'm trying to figure out how it was clear he was an immigrant from an earlier post.

    Hard to know. I don't see anything wrong with assuming he's an immigrant, perfectly reasonable from the article.

    It doesn't mention he claimed asylum and knowing the Indo, it would have been mentioned. It would be the first thing that come into some peoples minds though.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    It's his culture, we should all learn to respect and tolerate it.

    Ye' shower of racist bastards, Hitler was like a kitten compared to you! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,304 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Duggy747 wrote: »
    It's his culture, we should all learn to respect and tolerate it.

    Ye' shower of racist bastards, Hitler was like a kitten compared to you! :pac:

    Not bad, page 2.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,583 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    If i was a member of the village I'd be wondering where my king is! Damn absentee kings...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,208 ✭✭✭✭aidan_walsh


    This far into a thread about a Nigerian prince, and not one 419 joke.

    For shame...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,969 ✭✭✭donkey balls


    This far into a thread about a Nigerian prince, and not one 419 joke.

    For shame...

    whats a 419 joke ?:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,208 ✭✭✭✭aidan_walsh




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    This far into a thread about a Nigerian prince, and not one 419 joke.

    For shame...

    What?
    The very first post had one, and a bunch of posts after that.
    I'll have what you're drinking, thanks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,208 ✭✭✭✭aidan_walsh


    Kivaro wrote: »
    What?
    The very first post had one, and a bunch of posts after that.
    I'll have what you're drinking, thanks.
    I stand corrected.

    Also, Oranjeboom.

    Its not as good as the name would suggest. Very little actual boom. Or Oranje.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,089 ✭✭✭questionmark?


    Wazdakka wrote: »
    About bloody time..

    I think I've been emailing this guy for a few weeks..
    He told me he was a Nigerian King but was having trouble getting his money out of the country..
    For a small good will payment along with supplying him my bank account details and sort code he promised me millions of monies.

    I'll be rich..

    I had the same situation although i believe it was a King from a differant village luckily for only providing my bank details passport and pps i received a thank you payment of $2,000,000 zimbabwe dollors(they didnt want a paper trail to Nigerian banks afterwards) Very generous so they were. Bought myself a nice pick an mix at my local spar :cool:


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