Would Jesus say the same as the Pope to the Bishops

kicom · 17-02-2010 11:37AM

The Catholic Church is undergoing a cleansing process. This involves both priests and the people.

3qsmavrod5twfe · 17-02-2010 11:45AM

ScienceNerd wrote: »

Jesus more than likely couldn't speak English so I don't think it would have mattered

He wasn't called Jesus "Magic" Christ for just his uncanny basketball skills.

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

Well. if he'd left clearer instructions, rather than letting some guys write a bible 50-80 years after he died....

11th Commandment

"Thou shall not rape the kiddies"

dvpower · 17-02-2010 12:54PM

Hagar wrote: »

I reckon God is gonna fnck those bastards up when they die.

... meanwhile, his representatives on earth give them a free pass.

Sleepy · 17-02-2010 02:33PM

If you're Catholic, you have no choice but to believe that he would have.

If you believe Jesus would have acted differently, you're not a Catholic.

faceman · 17-02-2010 02:42PM

Sleepy wrote: »

If you're Catholic, you have no choice but to believe that he would have.

If you believe Jesus would have acted differently, you're not a Catholic.

I has a confused! Why is that?

Agricola · 17-02-2010 02:57PM

Sleepy wrote: »

If you're Catholic, you have no choice but to believe that he would have.

If you believe Jesus would have acted differently, you're not a Catholic.

Religious brainwashing at its best!

From my extensive reading of biblical texts (From what i try to block out from religion class) Jesus would have been royally pissed off by the behavior of the bishops. He would most likely have physically assaulted them there and then!

prinz · 17-02-2010 03:00PM

Sleepy wrote: »

If you're Catholic, you have no choice but to believe that he would have. If you believe Jesus would have acted differently, you're not a Catholic.

What complete and utter nonsense.

Galvasean · 17-02-2010 05:36PM

prinz wrote: »

What complete and utter nonsense.

Yeah, papal infalibility is complete and utter nonsense.

prinz · 17-02-2010 05:48PM

Galvasean wrote: »

Yeah, papal infalibility is complete and utter nonsense.

Being a smart man/woman, I suggest you'd have no problem doing a little bit of research into the areas in which infalllbility exists, the limitations and the manner in which it is exercised.

Note: Not every word the Pope says, on every topic is infallible.

..then again don't let little things like the facts get in the way..

EDIT: If you somehow decide anything the Pope said in relation to the Irish abuse falls into the category of Infallibility, please let me know.

Galvasean · 17-02-2010 05:56PM

prinz wrote: »

Being a smart man/woman,

Thank you. I am man BTW (Sean).

prinz wrote:

I suggest you'd have no problem doing a little bit of research into the areas in which infalllbility exists, the limitations and the manner in which it is exercised.

Note: Not every word the Pope says, on every topic is infallible.

Isn't he supposed to be infallible on matters that relate to faith (as far as I can tell this is one)?

Galvasean · 17-02-2010 05:57PM

As per your edit:

prinz wrote: »

EDIT: If you somehow decide anything the Pope said in relation to the Irish abuse falls into the category of Infallibility, please let me know.

Am I incorrect (in my previou post)?

prinz · 17-02-2010 06:03PM

Galvasean wrote: »

Am I incorrect (in my previou post)?

Only in matters pertaining to a doctine of the faith, not all matters of faith in general. There is also a specific wording which must be used and a process to be followed. The power of infallibility has been exercised only once in the last 100 years. It's a common urban myth that the Pope is infallible at all times etc. Pope Benedict himself has publicly stated that the Pope is not/can not be save for a very, very, very limited set of circumstances. See here..

Papal infallibility is the dogma in Catholic theology that, by action of the Holy Spirit, the Pope is preserved from even the possibility of error[1] when he solemnly declares or promulgates to the universal Church a dogmatic teaching on faith or morals as being contained in divine revelation, or at least being intimately connected to divine revelation. It is also taught that the Holy Spirit works in the body of the Church, as sensus fidelium, to ensure that dogmatic teachings proclaimed to be infallible will be received by all Catholics. This dogma, however, does not state either that the Pope cannot commit sin in his own personal life or that he is necessarily free of error, even when speaking in his official capacity, outside the specific contexts in which the dogma applies.

nice1franko · 17-02-2010 06:04PM

John 2:13-1 wrote:

The Passover of the Jews was near, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem. In the temple he found people selling cattle, sheep, and doves, and the money changers seated at their tables. Making a whip of cords, he drove all of them out of the temple, both the sheep and the cattle. He also poured out the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. He told those who were selling the doves, "Take these things out of here! Stop making my Father's house a marketplace!"

If he'd a conniption like that because they were selling things in the church we can only imagine what he'd say to a paedophile priest.... I like to think it'd start out like this though.

Would Jesus say the same as the Pope to the Bishops

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