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.. but Ryanair wants to give Ireland jobs!!

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  • #62
    bad2dabone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,333 ✭✭✭bad2dabone


    What's equally depressing about this is that this storm will pass and she will hold onto her job.

    Thick bitch needs to get the sack over this.


  • #63
    jimmycrackcorm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,372 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    PeakOutput wrote: »
    eh thats his job and he is very very good at it

    Nah - he just wants to use the Dublin facility as a negotiation tactic to get a better price for having all the facilities in Prestwick. He knows if SR couldn't make it work there then he can't either but he's good at using people to get what he wants anyway.


  • #64
    Pacing Mule
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,104 ✭✭✭Pacing Mule


    USA wrote: »
    The maximum rate for jobseekers allowance/benefit is now €196 per week.

    The figure would be closer to €50 million than €53 million.

    And if the workers have dependent children it will be higher than 53 million ...


  • #65
    PeakOutput
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,638 ✭✭✭PeakOutput


    jimmycrackcorm wrote: »
    Nah - he just wants to use the Dublin facility as a negotiation tactic to get a better price for having all the facilities in Prestwick. He knows if SR couldn't make it work there then he can't either but he's good at using people to get what he wants anyway.

    its two totally different business unless im mistaken

    sr take contracts from other airlines and do their maintenance and try and make a profit

    ryanair are trying to set up their own maintenance so they dont have to outsource its totally different and setting up in a recession with highly trained employess is far far cheaper than bringing a company of highly trained employees threw the biggest boom times the world has ever seen and then trying to make cut backs


  • #66
    meditraitor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,207 ✭✭✭meditraitor


    Only in Ireland could a bint like coughlan still have a job, if this happened in the UK she would be sacked long ago.....

    We are all to blame, how many of you or yours vote for FF everytime??????? and will again of for that matter, also FG who are just the same with a different color shirt. Same politics, smae ability to scam the people...


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  • #67
    Todd Gack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 551 ✭✭✭Todd Gack


    Coughlan is an awful waffler "in comparison to other countries.....blah blah blah.....cherry pick statistics....blah blah blah".

    Has her head well buried in the sand, she should be bending over backwards to secure those 300 jobs. Doesn't matter a sh1te whether she likes O'Leary or not. It's fcukin ridiculous that the government is doin sfa when there's the prospect of a hundred peoples misery to end. O'Leary is a businessman and has no duty to Ireland, that clown does.

    It's nauseating to listen to all that hollow rhetoric about how things will improve and then once the opportunity arises it's pride first. So what if O'Leary wants them to jump through hoops, he's in the position to create jobs, Coughlan should bark like a dog or dance around if she's asked to, if it helps create jobs when the opportunity arises.


  • #68
    asmobhosca
    Closed Accounts Posts: 109 ✭✭asmobhosca


    It really really scares me to think that any Multinational company interested in setting up in Ireland is landed with sweary Mary Coughlan to deal with.
    She is so far in over her head but she doesnt have the cognitive ability to realise it.
    Seriously is she the best we have???


  • #69
    thetonynator
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,234 ✭✭✭thetonynator


    meditraitor wrote: »
    Only in Ireland could a bint like coughlan still have a job, if this happened in the UK she would be sacked long ago.....

    We are all to blame, how many of you or yours vote for FF everytime??????? and will again of for that matter, also FG who are just the same with a different color shirt. Same politics, smae ability to scam the people...

    Specifically blue . . .;) :D


  • #70
    peasant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,789 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    If there was a pothole to be filled in in front of one of Mary C's "important" constituent's houses, you can bet your bottom dollar that words would be had with the appropriate person in the county council ..maybe not just words had but even a pint bought :D

    Only when it comes to doing her actual job (i.e creating/keeping jobs for others, mainly non-constituents) ...all of a sudden there are procedures that must be adhered to at all cost.

    Farsical.


  • #71
    Mr Benevolent
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,433 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    asmobhosca wrote: »
    It really really scares me to think that any Multinational company interested in setting up in Ireland is landed with sweary Mary Coughlan to deal with.
    She is so far in over her head but she doesnt have the cognitive ability to realise it.
    Seriously is she the best we have???

    She was elected for her popularity, not her ability. Ah democracy, that that crock of golden manure.


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  • #72
    the_syco
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,310 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    MOL wants Air Lingus to move out of the SRT hanger to somewhere else, and he wants the government to do it for him. The DAA said they will build another hanger for him, but oh no, MOL wants the SRT one right now, or he'll go elsewhere with the jobs.

    If he made a fuss about it in August before Aer Lingus moved in, I'd say it would've gone smoother, but as he waited until Aer Lingus moved in, I don't see it going as smooth.


  • #73
    Agent J
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,909 ✭✭✭Agent J


    How much do we pay Coughlan?

    And she cant even pick up a phone out of pride?

    I dont like O Leary. He is milking this for his own ends.
    However, that doesn't mean he is wrong.


  • #74
    Judgement Day
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    Michael O'Leary may be one of the most arrogant, self publicising people on the planet but he's like a different species compared to much of the pond life that pass for government ministers in this country. He is spot on about wanting Coughlan to cut out the bull**** and tell the DAA to sell the hangar to Ryan Air.....years ago I had this same arguement (about a different matter) with some FF/FG minister - I forget who - and I tried to explain to him that he was minister and to instruct one of his civil servants to do something and not to take no for answer....you can imagine the reaction. They are like rabbits caught in the car headlights - no in fact a rabbit would have more intelligence - even a dead one!


  • #75
    baz_ctr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭baz_ctr


    guys this is no more than a pr stunt by o leary can you not see throught it this guy he gives nothing for nothing, it will be the country that pays for the create of the jobs (if he gets his way) which is not necessary a bad thing but he will get all the media glory, ryanair created the 300 jobs etc etc:rolleyes:


  • #76
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    LATE NEWS
    Tánaiste to meet Ryanair chief

    Tánaiste Mary Coughlan's office has contacted Ryanair with a view to meeting with the airline's chief executive Michael O'Leary tomorrow to discuss his potential plans to create 300 aviation maintenance jobs at Dublin Airport.

    It is expected that a time for the meeting will be confirmed in the morning.
    Michael O'Leary has criticised the Minister for Enterprise, Trade and Employment for not phoning him to discuss his potential plans to create the jobs.
    Mr O'Leary has said he will not deal with the Dublin Airport Authority directly.
    The Tánaiste has defended her handling of the Ryanair offer to create 500 jobs on the former SR Technics site in north Dublin.
    Mary Coughlan responded to claims from the airline that she did not adequately deal with the matter.
    It emerged over the weekend that 200 of the proposed jobs are now going to Prestwick in Scotland.

    Ryanair claimed on Sunday it had offered to create 500 jobs on the SR Technics site after it closed last year with the loss of 1,000 jobs.
    However, the one proviso was that it did not want to deal directly with the DAA.
    Correspondence released by the airline after it made the initial offer to the Tánaiste, shows that Ms Coughlan replied that direct discussion with the airline and the DAA was needed to progress the plans.
    The airline has criticised Ms Coughlan and said the Tánaiste fobbed them off.
    However, the Minister said every effort was made by her and the IDA to secure the Ryanair investment and urged the airline to continue its dialogue with her.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0215/ryanair.html

    Just a pity what the minister says and what she actually done (according to her letters) don't quite match up.
    Strange that!


  • #77
    smellslikeshoes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭smellslikeshoes


    Surely all of this says something about the DAA, if a company won't deal with it questions have to be asked, is it working the way it should?


  • #78
    Mark200
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭Mark200


    Pete4779 wrote: »
    2. Continuing to invest in education: No you are not: we have more schools closed, more teachers laid off and not a single Top 100 university in the world

    What about TCD and UCD?


  • #79
    daveyboy_1ie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,352 ✭✭✭daveyboy_1ie


    baz_ctr wrote: »
    guys this is no more than a pr stunt by o leary can you not see throught it this guy he gives nothing for nothing, it will be the country that pays for the create of the jobs (if he gets his way) which is not necessary a bad thing but he will get all the media glory, ryanair created the 300 jobs etc etc:rolleyes:

    So? The point is other governments have learnt to deal with him and his tactics a long time ago because they can cut through the cr*p, at the end of the day its 300 families in IRELAND with a much rosier outcome than they have at the moment, Most have been on the dole since last September and would do anything for the chance of employment again, even if it means working for a pr*ck like MOL.

    At the end of the day a job is a job and Coughlan, as a paid representative of the citizins of Ireland should never even have the choice of bringing opinions into negotiations. She is supposed to be working for the good of the country, not working on her ego. FF have been totally inept at dealing with this crisis and are just lucky that their oppenents would be just as incometant.


  • #80
    Joey the lips
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    smellslikeshoes wrote: »
    Surely all of this says something about the DAA, if a company won't deal with it questions have to be asked, is it working the way it should?

    No what it actually says is ryanair is a company that cannot be dealt with. How many companies is DAA dealing with..... As the orig managers of Dublin cork shannon and various european airports what this says is "They wont listen to michael o learys threats and he does not like it" despite what we think the traffic from ireland is michael o learys bread and butter and there is too much low cost competition in europe.

    Micheal o leary wants T2 he does not want to use it he wants it and why not! But we all need to grow up and stop listening to tail wagging.

    Imagine this as a good hand of cards. Because thats all it is to michael o leary and he will deal those cards best he can and why not. any business man will do the same. But if he is not happy with his hand he will fold simple. He will not care about 300 or 3000 jobs and it has already been proved by him

    So really believe that everyone but o leary is wrong because after all the loudest baby does get the most attention.


  • #81
    Biggins
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    It can be spun by any folk all they want but it boils down to the following:

    1. Ryanair had 500 jobs to offer the country.
    2. There is animosity between Ryanair and the DAA - for whatever the hell reason - whats past is the past!
    3. Ryanair still wanted to deal with the DAA but thru Mary Coughlan as to not aggravate the DAA further.
    4. Mary Coughlan wouldn't get up off her arse and help.

    End of story.

    Now it can be spun by FF followers all the hell they want but the fact is that whatever the hell we think of Ryanair, O'Leary and whatever muppet some think they/he are - as pointed out already "jobs is jobs" - so Mary Coughlan and the DAA lets get over this fcuking personal schite and get their friggin' act sorted for fcuks sake - if not for the 300 remaining jobs left hanging around !


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  • #82
    Joey the lips
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    Biggins wrote: »
    It can be spun by any folk all they want but it boils down to the following:

    1. Ryanair had 500 jobs to offer the country.
    2. There is animosity between Ryanair and the DAA - for whatever the hell reason - whats past is the past!
    3. Ryanair still wanted to deal with the DAA but thru Mary Coughlan as to not aggravate the DAA further.
    4. Mary Coughlan wouldn't get up off her arse and help.

    End of story.

    Now it can be spun by FF followers all the hell they want but the fact is that whatever the hell we think of Ryanair, O'Leary and whatever muppet some think they/he are - as pointed out already "jobs is jobs" - so Mary Coughlan and the DAA lets get over this fcuking personal schite and get their friggin' act sorted for fcuks sake - if not for the 300 remaining jobs left hanging around !

    I dont like mary C. However I do not believe this is the case. I believe that no one really trusts michael o leary and thats the bottom line.


  • #83
    Biggins
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    Joey the lips wrote: »
    I believe that no one really trusts michael o leary and thats the bottom line.
    ...which is why point 3. was initiated. What was the outcome? Point 4.


  • #84
    syklops
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Joey the lips wrote: »
    No what it actually says is ryanair is a company that cannot be dealt with. How many companies is DAA dealing with..... As the orig managers of Dublin cork shannon and various european airports what this says is "They wont listen to michael o learys threats and he does not like it" despite what we think the traffic from ireland is michael o learys bread and butter and there is too much low cost competition in europe.

    Well why does Michael o'leary not have a problem with any other airport management agency? If he is the problem, why is it only the DAA that he refuses to work with?


  • #85
    General Zod
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    Biggins wrote: »
    It can be spun by any folk all they want but it boils down to the following:

    1. Ryanair had 500 jobs to offer the country.
    2. There is animosity between Ryanair and the DAA - for whatever the hell reason - whats past is the past!
    3. Ryanair still wanted to deal with the DAA but thru Mary Coughlan as to not aggravate the DAA further.
    4. Mary Coughlan wouldn't get up off her arse and help.

    End of story.

    Now it can be spun by FF followers all the hell they want but the fact is that whatever the hell we think of Ryanair, O'Leary and whatever muppet some think they/he are - as pointed out already "jobs is jobs" - so Mary Coughlan and the DAA lets get over this fcuking personal schite and get their friggin' act sorted for fcuks sake - if not for the 300 remaining jobs left hanging around !

    Funny, it's not the DAA or MC taking out national ads slagging Ryanair.

    Ryanair are bullies and the DAA stood up to them. O'Leary never forgot this and will do anything to make them look like the bad men who don't want to let Ryanair create jobs.

    The truth is probably in the middle from what has been presented by both sides but hey, who expects truth in a Ryanair publicity release?


  • #86
    syklops
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    Funny, it's not the DAA or MC taking out national ads slagging Ryanair.

    What? :confused:


  • #87
    baz_ctr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭baz_ctr


    daveyboy_1ie wrote: »
    So? The point is other governments have learnt to deal with him and his tactics a long time ago because they can cut through the cr*p, at the end of the day its 300 families in IRELAND with a much rosier outcome than they have at the moment, Most have been on the dole since last September and would do anything for the chance of employment again, even if it means working for a pr*ck like MOL.

    At the end of the day a job is a job and Coughlan, as a paid representative of the citizins of Ireland should never even have the choice of bringing opinions into negotiations. She is supposed to be working for the good of the country, not working on her ego. FF have been totally inept at dealing with this crisis and are just lucky that their oppenents would be just as incometant.

    don't get me wrong i agreed with you i think mary c, daa and micheal o leary are all bad as each other, at the end of the day 300 jobs is 300 jobs to Irish people, she should get off her ass and start putting some punches to get it done


  • #88
    General Zod
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    syklops wrote: »
    What? :confused:


    Ryanair have a history of taking out insulting ads against the DAA and the minister in charge at the time as "promotion" any time the government or the DAA don't roll over and cater to O'Leary's every whim.


  • #89
    Biggins
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    syklops wrote: »
    Well why does Michael o'leary not have a problem with any other airport management agency? If he is the problem, why is it only the DAA that he refuses to work with?
    General Zod wrote: »
    Funny, it's not the DAA or MC taking out national ads slagging Ryanair.

    Ryanair are bullies and the DAA stood up to them. O'Leary never forgot this and will do anything to make them look like the bad men who don't want to let Ryanair create jobs.

    The truth is probably in the middle from what has been presented by both sides but hey, who expects truth in a Ryanair publicity release?
    Let me make on thing clear, I am not in any way a O'Leary fan.
    (I personally think he is a bullying mug all dressed up and nowhere to go)

    but!

    Irrespective of how Mary Coughlan and/or the DAA feel about the man, they should have for the sake of precious jobs put their personal crap aside (probably not easy) and got on with part of their roles that they were employed to do!
    Did Mary Coughlan? No - and that is to her shame. She possibly let personal crap come between her and her job.
    Now if WE, you or I did that in our work place - would we still be still holding on to our own jobs? Be honest...

    The DAA and Mary Coughlan could have come out PR shining of sweet smelling roses, having jumped into the schite of dealing with O'Leary - but NO - they fcuked it all right up!

    ...and thus we have the present idiotic, personal schite, attemptive face-saving mess.


  • #90
    PeakOutput
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    Mark200 wrote: »
    What about TCD and UCD?

    even though its off topic both of those have dropped out of the top 100


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  • #91
    syklops
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    General Zod wrote: »
    Ryanair have a history of taking out insulting ads against the DAA and the minister in charge at the time as "promotion" any time the government or the DAA don't roll over and cater to O'Leary's every whim.

    Have you a link to one of these ads?


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