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The leaflets for cloths etc.. charities?

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  • #32
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    CrazyRabbit wrote: »
    I have a sign up saying 'No unsolicited mails'. So any unsolicited mail is effectively litter. These people are therefore illegally dumping their litter on my property.
    There was one company in particular that put a huge number of trash leaflets through my letterbox. I rang them and threatened to obtain a court order preventing them from harassing me, and that I would seek compensation for the nuisance & cost of having to dispose of their trash.

    Not sure if I could legally actually do this, but the threat was enough to get them to stop distributing the leaflets on the entire road.

    I tried a similar notice outside my front door but it turned out to be useless as those delivering the leaflets were always of another language use and couldn't read it anyway!
    I could have translated the notice into other languages as well but how many would I have had to do that for?
    (...and lord knows the sign would have been eventually bigger than my door never mind the letter box!)

    I like the idea of ringing the company but chasing some of the phone numbers on some of the leaflets is like chasing energetic chickens in a large coup. :D
    One only ends up frustrated. Bummer. :(


  • #33
    stovelid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    I don't particularly care about them trying to get clothes but somebody put one through my letter box recently at about 1 in the morning.

    Loudly.

    I had to get out of bed and go down as I thought somebody was breaking in.
    CrazyRabbit wrote: »
    I have a sign up saying 'No unsolicited mails'.

    I'd need one saying No unsolicited mails except any updated menus from that top Indian round the corner.


  • #34
    ArmaniJeanss
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,306 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    Why for the love of **** has nobody been prosecuted for fraud over this yet

    I'm guessing that if they do actually give a donation to the claimed charity (even if its only a token 0.0001% of the revenue they get) that then they are clear in the eyes of the law.


  • #35
    Cheap Thrills!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,723 ✭✭✭Cheap Thrills!


    Beechman wrote: »
    Some of these leaflet drops also try to open your door when putting the sticker through the letterbox.

    Yep, noticed that before. They tried the door handle first and as it was locked they just posted the sticker. 4 in the morning.

    I used to use the bags for rubbish, but now all I get is stickers. :mad:


  • #36
    caseyann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,938 ✭✭✭caseyann


    Beechman wrote: »
    Some of these leaflet drops also try to open your door when putting the sticker through the letterbox.
    I thought i was imagining things but you are right they have done that at mine to :mad:


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  • #37
    Archeron
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭Archeron


    Those people who start their cars at 5am to warm them up beofre setting off for work and then go in for a cuppa would do well to read this thread and remember that there are plenty of folk out there at that time. I couldnt believe it a while ago when I opened my hall door at 5.30 and seen a dude with hoody up and scarf over his face delivering leaflets asking for clothes.

    The leaflet had the usual perfect diction and mobile phone number instead of charity number too, so no doubt he was a reputable lad. It also said they would accept "old jewellery in good condition", how kind.


  • #38
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,182 ✭✭✭dvpower


    armaniTShirts wrote: »
    I'm guessing that if they do actually give a donation to the claimed charity (even if its only a token 0.0001% of the revenue they get) that then they are clear in the eyes of the law.

    Some of the leaflets have a registered charity number (that's not to say its a good charity; but at least is a charity).


  • #39
    lorebringer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,712 ✭✭✭lorebringer


    dvpower wrote: »
    Some of the leaflets have a registered charity number (that's not to say its a good charity; but at least is a charity).
    When we get any of the crap through the door we look up the charity numbers - most of which are the same company (using the business number) under different names with different stickers on their bags, but the same charity number. The company shut down in 2005 and was not registered for anything to do with clothes. Some are legit (like Simon or Focus Ireland) and their charity numbers check out ok but most are either companies that don't exist anymore or just plain made up. I never trust anything that comes through the door without looking it up first.

    If I want to get rid of unwanted stuff - clothes, trinkets, jewelery etc. - I give it in to a charity shop, at least i know it will go to a good cause and I'm not being scammed. We save any of the bags that come through the door and use them as standard rubbish bags for our bin - best use for them!


  • #40
    Joey the lips
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    Hi Folks. I work for the saint vincent de paul and as a genuine organisation all clothes donated will be either used or put to use fundraising. If you are considering getting rid of old clothes please consider the svp.


  • #41
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Joey the lips wrote: »
    Hi Folks. I work for the saint vincent de paul and as a genuine organisation all clothes donated will be either used or put to use fundraising. If you are considering getting rid of old clothes please consider the svp.
    Rest assured, a lot do.
    Just the wife and I go out of our way to see that only ye get all we can give to you.
    I know from talking to other many parents on mumstown.ie that they do likewise.


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  • #42
    scudzilla
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,065 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    I'm forever getting them, pretty nice to put in the burner in the summer, warms the garden up lovely.

    I can't understand the one's asking for clothes for the starving people in Africa, if they can fit into my clothes then they aint fcukin starving :rolleyes:


  • #43
    stovelid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Joey the lips wrote: »
    Hi Folks. I work for the saint vincent de paul and as a genuine organisation all clothes donated will be either used or put to use fundraising. If you are considering getting rid of old clothes please consider the svp.

    Many people won't though.

    They'd rather bellyache about clothes possibly ending up in the hands of fraudster foreigners instead of a "real" charity: clothes that would no doubt actually moulder away unworn in the house for decades when a "real" charity is a short trip away.


  • #44
    tipperaryboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 960 ✭✭✭tipperaryboy


    There is an awful amount of ''charities' distributing leaflets seeking old clothes surely some of them are not proper charities.


  • #45
    Darksaga87
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,990 ✭✭✭Darksaga87


    Sure does it not count as tresspassing when they put this crap in your door?


  • #46
    Capt'n Midnight
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    Kristopherus wrote: »
    And remember that a lot of those outfits are professional scammers who are in it for profit and nothing else.
    If they do not give traceable contact details then they aren't genuine.

    I've only seen three or four that have had an address and/or land line number

    ALL the rest have had mobile numbers , a good proportion have had foreign mobile numbers, as if they couldn't be arsed even trying to look legit.


    While a CHY number doesn't mean they are legit absence of it IMHO means they are committing fraud and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, amongst other things reducing the income of genuine charities.

    The laws covering this changed/will be changed shortly so hopefully these guys can be nailed.


    If you don't recognise the name of the charity - like Barnardo's or SVdP then most likely to be fraud.


    Also there are lots of bring centres for clothes / or any charity shop.


  • #47
    Mike 1972
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,017 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    Capt'n Midnight wrote: »
    The laws covering this changed/will be changed shortly so hopefully these guys can be nailed. .

    Just as soon as we take care of more important things like blaphsemy and headshops........................


  • #48
    CreepingDeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,015 ✭✭✭CreepingDeath


    There's a house full of those eastern european charity bag robbers living across the road from me. They're renting a house.
    They operate 4 banged up Ford Transit vans and think that they can treat a residential area and quiet cul-de-sac as their own personal van depot.
    One van always leaves at 4am each morning.

    Lets just say that I have reason to believe someone sent an anonymous e-mail to the social welfare to investigate any dole claims from that address.


  • #49
    Joey the lips
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    Darksaga87 wrote: »
    Sure does it not count as tresspassing when they put this crap in your door?

    Nope. Belive it or not everyone has a right to knock on your door and if they fall in your drive they can sue you.

    In fact whats even funnier if a window cleaner falls off a ladder whilst cleaning your windows if he does not have public liability insurence he can sue you.

    and you thought the govt were daft.


  • #50
    adds
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18 ✭adds


    btard wrote: »
    Obviously plenty of money in the rag racket.

    you are quite right , what I can't understand is when I go into charity shop there prices are really high it would cost less to but new stuff and if you ask for a penny off they say no no no way although they get everything they sell for free,I went to buy something one day, cost €12.50 asked for the 50c off did I get it no way, they make so much money that they can afford to hold out for 50c extra


  • #51
    Rycn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 722 ✭✭✭Rycn


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    Why for the love of **** has nobody been prosecuted for fraud over this yet
    This is Ireland.


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  • #52
    honeymonster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 601 ✭✭✭honeymonster


    A lot of the crap gets shipped to Poland. Herad those boys are making a fortune from it.


  • #53
    Bonito
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,399 ✭✭✭Bonito


    I've been gettin' them through my door at half 3 sometimes, in the morning! :eek:

    Also the pricks rob the milk from the doors that my dad delivers! :mad: Basta'ds have cost him a few customers over the last while.

    (and yes, they were caught doing it and we rang the guardaí) although they got away with it because they didn't speak english and said they thought the owners left the milk out for them :rolleyes: guards let them off with a "Don't do it again". Funnily enough the driver had an Irish license so how you can sit a theory and do your full test without a good comprehension of english is beyond me!


  • #54
    OutlawPete
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    *sets timer to see how long it takes for Bonito to be called a racist" :)

    I just wait for them around 4am, just as they start to put them through the letterbox I snap open the door and start doing Basil Fawlty impressions.


  • #55
    arybvtcw0eolkf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    They used to drive me nuts, until I introduced them to Ruby and Richo her Pitbull half brother :p

    In reality two of the softest dogs ever, although Richo is exceptionally very territorial. But Pitbulls and Staff's are almost exclusively used as fighting dogs in Eastern Europe so the Eastern Europeans are terrified of 'em :pac:

    Its rare I get crap now!.


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