The leaflets for cloths etc.. charities?

caseyann

My god seriously how many of them a night to come through letterbox.Its like 12 in the night and coming through the door :eek:
The amount of that stuff coming through the letter box how they expect anyone to have anything to give away.Then there is the ones who take them and dump them around corner of not brand new or designer stuff.
If it was once a week or month but its every day!

Do you get them everyday?

Buford T Justice

Constantly. Hate the sight of the fucking things

xw2lj9uspm1eyh

Sure it's big business for them now a days they rip the clothes up and sell them as rags to cleaning companies etc etc.

caseyann

mendusa wrote: »

Sure it's big business for them now a days they rip the clothes up and sell them as rags to cleaning companies etc etc.

I heard it come through my door and went out and this bewildered girl i handed it back to her.:D Sorry she said i said its ok not your fault, i just have enough for next ten or twenty years :rolleyes:

xzanti

I'd say the Cerebral Palsy people have given up on the black bag idea now at this stage cause they're just gone by the time they go to collect.. the Eastern Europeans elusive theives have a whole racket set up.. they give around the bags under the guise of Vincent De Paul or something and they wait up all night to go round and swipe..

Who said that???????? I didn't :eek:

Closed ac

All those bloody jack and jill foundation bags that always come through the letter box too!

How many old phones do they think we have..

Kristopherus

caseyann wrote: »

I heard it come through my door and went out and this bewildered girl i handed it back to her.:D Sorry she said i said its ok not your fault, i just have enough for next ten or twenty years :rolleyes:

And remember that a lot of those outfits are professional scammers who are in it for profit and nothing else.

btard

Obviously plenty of money in the rag racket.

caseyann

DKZ wrote: »

All those bloody jack and jill foundation bags that always come through the letter box too!

How many old phones do they think we have..

Haha i know i have them every day as well,we have a stack of phones in closet and not giving them to you

Kristopherus wrote: »

And remember that a lot of those outfits are professional scammers who are in it for profit and nothing else.

I know i seen them myself collecting the bags and driving off rifling through the bags for the good stuff and dumping rest in a bush :mad:

namloc1980

What makes these a total pain is that they tend to drop them through the letterbox at 4 or 5 in the morning!

The Pontiac

I used to love these scammers. My refuse collection is pay-by-weight, so I used fill up the scammer's bags with real heavy rubbish and cover the top with some old clothes. Mysteriously, I don't get the bags through my letterbox anymore. I dump my unwanted 'good gear' in the clothes bank that actually ends up going to the less well off.

Sharpshooter

<Ollie> wrote: »

I used to love these scammers. My refuse collection is pay-by-weight, so I used fill up the scammer's bags with real heavy rubbish and cover the top with some old clothes. Mysteriously, I don't get the bags through my letterbox anymore. I dump my unwanted 'good gear' in the clothes bank that actually ends up going to the less well off.

I am so going to use that tip.

/no pun intended..:pac:

Genghiz Cohen

Some of them are load bearing stickers.

Biggins

I've started collecting the damn things just to see how many different ones I can get.
I have now about 25/30 different ones.
Isn't it great we have so many registered clothing charities! :rolleyes:

LOL looking at a just previous post I see someone else has had the same idea.

Genghiz Cohen wrote: »

Some of them are load bearing stickers.

Maybe we should start swapping them like football cards!

Sharpshooter

Genghiz Cohen wrote: »

Some of them are load bearing stickers.

I was sticking them on my bin but it made the bin look untidy.

Sea Sharp

I heard they shred up the clothes you give them and they then sell them as rags.

Midnight_EG

Ever work in a shop or garage that uses these rags though?

My time in a garage was filled with trying to think of what item of clothing I was holding while cleaning something oily or greasy, once I even had a Liverscumpool jersey, enjoyed using it I did!

Sea Sharp

My time in a garage was filled with trying to think of what item of clothing I was holding while cleaning something oily or greasy, once I even had a Liverscumpool jersey, enjoyed using it I did!

How much do they charge for the rags?

Sharpshooter

Midnight_EG wrote: »

Ever work in a shop or garage that uses these rags though?

My time in a garage was filled with trying to think of what item of clothing I was holding while cleaning something oily or greasy, once I even had a Liverscumpool jersey, enjoyed using it I did!

Post about footie again and I will flush your post down the nearest Man U hole.

Cerocco

I can get 1-2 a day through the letterbox. Sick to death of it. What really does my head in is that i'm not home all day and this bloody thing is hanging out of the letter box for all to see that i'm not home. Ollie, great advise. I'm gonna put a sh1t load of my rubbish in the bags and put a couple of old tee shirts on top. that will learn em!!!!!!!:D:D

Midnight_EG

Sharpshooter wrote: »

Post about footie again and I will flush your post down the nearest Man U hole.

Damn the next comment set me up for another

GaNjaHaN wrote: »

How much do they charge for the rags?

I don't know, I just know they got 20kg bags of them every couple weeks, got loads in it!

Wouldnt imagine they'd be too pricey tbh.

plein de force

incredible but through, to the disbelief of everyone in the house they actually delievered one on christmas morning :eek::eek:

and there's always very poor english on them too, wonder where they're written

Hank_Jones

It's really irritating, I just get the stickers through the door.
So they are absolutely no use, as stickers don't double up as rubbish bags.

Hauk

The cheap skates stopped giving you the bag to go with them

I posted about this in Ranting and Raving before. Bastards.

Dudess

xzanti wrote: »

the Eastern Europeans elusive theives have a whole racket set up

Eastern Europe's a big place. Whatever is done with the clothes, it's a way of getting rid of garments you'll never wear again and will just leave to take up space and turn into mothballs... /shrug

The Pontiac

GaNjaHaN wrote: »

I heard they shred up the clothes you give them and they then sell them as rags.

Unless they come accross some Prada stuff of course..

Darksaga87

I keep hoping i catch them comeing to the door so i can give it back to them. Never see them though!

Still though, they keep the fire going.

biko

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1569695/How-charity-clothes-line-Lithuanian-pockets.html

Leaflets pushed through letter boxes in thousands of streets across Britain are deliberately misleading homeowners by making it seem that the clothes are "sent to Third World countries to help clothe the poor".

In reality, the clothes are taken and sold by Lithuanian gangs, which are estimated to be depriving charities of up £10 million a year in lost revenues.

Secondhand bras are worth €1,200 to €1,500 a tonne.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/rag-wars-rage-over-control-of-charity-clothes-market-124920.html

One Malahide householder said she was leaving out a bag of clothing for the Irish Cancer Society when a gang of eastern European men pulled up in a van outside her neighbour's house and grabbed it.

"I confronted them and asked for ID which they didn't have. Eventually they opened the back door of the van and I retrieved the bag. It was full of Irish Cancer Society bags

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054933493&page=3
http://ocaoimh.ie/do-not-delay-how-to-spot-a-fake-charity-flyer/

Beechman

Some of these leaflet drops also try to open your door when putting the sticker through the letterbox.

Mike 1972

Why for the love of **** has nobody been prosecuted for fraud over this yet

CrazyRabbit

I have a sign up saying 'No unsolicited mails'. So any unsolicited mail is effectively litter. These people are therefore illegally dumping their litter on my property.
There was one company in particular that put a huge number of trash leaflets through my letterbox. I rang them and threatened to obtain a court order preventing them from harassing me, and that I would seek compensation for the nuisance & cost of having to dispose of their trash.

Not sure if I could legally actually do this, but the threat was enough to get them to stop distributing the leaflets on the entire road.

Biggins

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

I have a sign up saying 'No unsolicited mails'. So any unsolicited mail is effectively litter. These people are therefore illegally dumping their litter on my property.
There was one company in particular that put a huge number of trash leaflets through my letterbox. I rang them and threatened to obtain a court order preventing them from harassing me, and that I would seek compensation for the nuisance & cost of having to dispose of their trash.

Not sure if I could legally actually do this, but the threat was enough to get them to stop distributing the leaflets on the entire road.

I tried a similar notice outside my front door but it turned out to be useless as those delivering the leaflets were always of another language use and couldn't read it anyway!
I could have translated the notice into other languages as well but how many would I have had to do that for?
(...and lord knows the sign would have been eventually bigger than my door never mind the letter box!)

I like the idea of ringing the company but chasing some of the phone numbers on some of the leaflets is like chasing energetic chickens in a large coup.
One only ends up frustrated. Bummer.

stovelid

I don't particularly care about them trying to get clothes but somebody put one through my letter box recently at about 1 in the morning.

Loudly.

I had to get out of bed and go down as I thought somebody was breaking in.

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

I have a sign up saying 'No unsolicited mails'.

I'd need one saying No unsolicited mails except any updated menus from that top Indian round the corner.

ArmaniJeanss

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Why for the love of **** has nobody been prosecuted for fraud over this yet

I'm guessing that if they do actually give a donation to the claimed charity (even if its only a token 0.0001% of the revenue they get) that then they are clear in the eyes of the law.

Cheap Thrills!

Beechman wrote: »

Some of these leaflet drops also try to open your door when putting the sticker through the letterbox.

Yep, noticed that before. They tried the door handle first and as it was locked they just posted the sticker. 4 in the morning.

I used to use the bags for rubbish, but now all I get is stickers. :mad:

caseyann

Beechman wrote: »

Some of these leaflet drops also try to open your door when putting the sticker through the letterbox.

I thought i was imagining things but you are right they have done that at mine to :mad:

Archeron

Those people who start their cars at 5am to warm them up beofre setting off for work and then go in for a cuppa would do well to read this thread and remember that there are plenty of folk out there at that time. I couldnt believe it a while ago when I opened my hall door at 5.30 and seen a dude with hoody up and scarf over his face delivering leaflets asking for clothes.

The leaflet had the usual perfect diction and mobile phone number instead of charity number too, so no doubt he was a reputable lad. It also said they would accept "old jewellery in good condition", how kind.

dvpower

armaniTShirts wrote: »

I'm guessing that if they do actually give a donation to the claimed charity (even if its only a token 0.0001% of the revenue they get) that then they are clear in the eyes of the law.

Some of the leaflets have a registered charity number (that's not to say its a good charity; but at least is a charity).

lorebringer

dvpower wrote: »

Some of the leaflets have a registered charity number (that's not to say its a good charity; but at least is a charity).

When we get any of the crap through the door we look up the charity numbers - most of which are the same company (using the business number) under different names with different stickers on their bags, but the same charity number. The company shut down in 2005 and was not registered for anything to do with clothes. Some are legit (like Simon or Focus Ireland) and their charity numbers check out ok but most are either companies that don't exist anymore or just plain made up. I never trust anything that comes through the door without looking it up first.

If I want to get rid of unwanted stuff - clothes, trinkets, jewelery etc. - I give it in to a charity shop, at least i know it will go to a good cause and I'm not being scammed. We save any of the bags that come through the door and use them as standard rubbish bags for our bin - best use for them!

Joey the lips

Hi Folks. I work for the saint vincent de paul and as a genuine organisation all clothes donated will be either used or put to use fundraising. If you are considering getting rid of old clothes please consider the svp.

Biggins

Joey the lips wrote: »

Hi Folks. I work for the saint vincent de paul and as a genuine organisation all clothes donated will be either used or put to use fundraising. If you are considering getting rid of old clothes please consider the svp.

Rest assured, a lot do.
Just the wife and I go out of our way to see that only ye get all we can give to you.
I know from talking to other many parents on mumstown.ie that they do likewise.

scudzilla

I'm forever getting them, pretty nice to put in the burner in the summer, warms the garden up lovely.

I can't understand the one's asking for clothes for the starving people in Africa, if they can fit into my clothes then they aint fcukin starving :rolleyes:

stovelid

Joey the lips wrote: »

Hi Folks. I work for the saint vincent de paul and as a genuine organisation all clothes donated will be either used or put to use fundraising. If you are considering getting rid of old clothes please consider the svp.

Many people won't though.

They'd rather bellyache about clothes possibly ending up in the hands of fraudster foreigners instead of a "real" charity: clothes that would no doubt actually moulder away unworn in the house for decades when a "real" charity is a short trip away.

tipperaryboy

There is an awful amount of ''charities' distributing leaflets seeking old clothes surely some of them are not proper charities.

Darksaga87

Sure does it not count as tresspassing when they put this crap in your door?

Capt'n Midnight

Kristopherus wrote: »

And remember that a lot of those outfits are professional scammers who are in it for profit and nothing else.

If they do not give traceable contact details then they aren't genuine.

I've only seen three or four that have had an address and/or land line number

ALL the rest have had mobile numbers , a good proportion have had foreign mobile numbers, as if they couldn't be arsed even trying to look legit.


While a CHY number doesn't mean they are legit absence of it IMHO means they are committing fraud and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, amongst other things reducing the income of genuine charities.

The laws covering this changed/will be changed shortly so hopefully these guys can be nailed.


If you don't recognise the name of the charity - like Barnardo's or SVdP then most likely to be fraud.


Also there are lots of bring centres for clothes / or any charity shop.

Mike 1972

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

The laws covering this changed/will be changed shortly so hopefully these guys can be nailed. .

Just as soon as we take care of more important things like blaphsemy and headshops........................

CreepingDeath

There's a house full of those eastern european charity bag robbers living across the road from me. They're renting a house.
They operate 4 banged up Ford Transit vans and think that they can treat a residential area and quiet cul-de-sac as their own personal van depot.
One van always leaves at 4am each morning.

Lets just say that I have reason to believe someone sent an anonymous e-mail to the social welfare to investigate any dole claims from that address.

Joey the lips

Darksaga87 wrote: »

Sure does it not count as tresspassing when they put this crap in your door?

Nope. Belive it or not everyone has a right to knock on your door and if they fall in your drive they can sue you.

In fact whats even funnier if a window cleaner falls off a ladder whilst cleaning your windows if he does not have public liability insurence he can sue you.

and you thought the govt were daft.

adds

btard wrote: »

Obviously plenty of money in the rag racket.

you are quite right , what I can't understand is when I go into charity shop there prices are really high it would cost less to but new stuff and if you ask for a penny off they say no no no way although they get everything they sell for free,I went to buy something one day, cost €12.50 asked for the 50c off did I get it no way, they make so much money that they can afford to hold out for 50c extra

Rycn

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Why for the love of **** has nobody been prosecuted for fraud over this yet

This is Ireland.