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Latest Panasonic TV's and Irish DTT

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,906 ✭✭✭Apogee


    The UK Panasonic doesn't have a VHF tuner, so is no good for certain analogue terrestrial channels in certain parts of the country (e.g. RTÉ1 and RTÉ2 from Mullaghanish in Cork/Kerry). It will also mean that many of the analogue channels on NTL cable cannot be tuned in. Potentially, this could be rectified by obtaining a VHF->UHF upconverter, although how well it'll work in practice is dependent on the quality of the converter. A cheap/2nd hand video player would also be an option, where you rely on the tuner of the VCR much as you currently do with the DVD-recorder.

    With regards to the Irish terrestrial channels on digital, this is a separate issue with the 01 vs 16 flag. As it happens, RTÉ have been using the 01 flag for quite some time, so your Panasonic will tune in the Irish channels on DTT currently. A set of rabbit ears is sufficient if you're in Dublin or Cork city.

    Satellite dishes can be installed discreetly or even behind glass if you want to get the full benefit of the Freesat tuner:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=224642&page=2


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭STB


    sparkles_I wrote: »
    As i'm renting, and it's an apartment block, the landlord won't allow a dish to go up, so analogue NTL is the only option i have...

    C

    Is your apartment block not prewired for communal sat dishes ? This is nothing to do with your landlord other than he hasnt bother to get it connected if it is available (this you will find is a simple once off install fee preferably by your landlord and doesnot require subscribing to Sky). What normally happens in multi developments like apt blocks is the management fee paid by your landlord then covers the sat guys maintenance. You may find that the development has allowed NTL in and put no other options in place. Shocking!

    Back to the panasonic.
    When you succesfully tune the DTT channels in (you will need a indoor aerial and a small signal booster). Get a small indoor aerial connect it and stick it on your window cill and come back and tell us what you get. If you recive the channels. Save em to your favourites and turn the network message for new services to off.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 sparkles_I


    hi,

    Sorry for the late reply, i caught a dose of the flu and then went looking for an aerial and to check if there was a communal satellite dish.

    There's no communal satellite.. the building is only wired for analogue NTL and i tried the satellite dish and the only channel that turned in clearly was E4, the rest are fuzzy with bad sound..

    The only way i get channels now is via the tuner in the dvd recorder.. I'm thinking if i want to watch and record at the same time, i need a second dvd or video recorder..?

    Do you know where i might get a freeview dish that i could install myself and posisbly keep inside (or for it to be small and have outside..?) . The landlord is not exactly the lenient type..

    Thanks for much for your advices so far...

    best wishes
    C


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,872 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Lidl had freeview camping systems only a week or so ago and some stores very likely still have them. They have a small dish but it's probably not well suited to permanent mounting to a wall outside.

    If you have a south facing window with a clear line of sight, you might be able to set up the dish inside pointing out the window.

    Something funny about that satellite set up.

    fuzzy or colourfully blocky massive pixelation, because satellite channels don't do fuzzy?

    being able to receive one channel and not others also doesn't sound like sat either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭STB


    sparkles_I wrote: »
    hi,

    Sorry for the late reply, i caught a dose of the flu and then went looking for an aerial and to check if there was a communal satellite dish.

    There's no communal satellite.. the building is only wired for analogue NTL and i tried the satellite dish and the only channel that turned in clearly was E4, the rest are fuzzy with bad sound..

    The only way i get channels now is via the tuner in the dvd recorder.. I'm thinking if i want to watch and record at the same time, i need a second dvd or video recorder..?

    Do you know where i might get a freeview dish that i could install myself and posisbly keep inside (or for it to be small and have outside..?) . The landlord is not exactly the lenient type..

    Thanks for much for your advices so far...

    best wishes
    C

    Well that model TV will work for DTT and freesat obviously as it has both tuners.

    SAT
    Okay so you will have to hide the dish. Do you have a balcony that you could hide the dish on - there are lots of way to hide a dish. Alternatively you try a flat dish that doesnt look like a sat dish http://www.rvsatellitesystems.co.uk/index.php/camos/camos-flat-sat-satellite-dish or http://www.dastv.co.uk/shop/news_SelfSat_H21D_Flat_Antenna_159.php or http://www.sqish.co.uk/

    You might pick up one of these cheap on ebay. Check with dishpointer whether your apartment will be able to pick up a signal from astra 28.2. If it can you wont need NTL and the bills.

    Obiously a small indoor aerial connected to the aerial post in turn will give you the irish DTT stations.


    NTL
    The reason you cannot use your analogue NTL with it is because it doesnt have a VHF tuner. This is where 90% of the analogue NTL channels are. There are one or two at the start of UHF. Thats why you get fuzzy E4.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 sparkles_I


    hi,

    thanks so much for the help and advice.. I'm a non-starter when it goes to this and am trying to learn from scratch...

    I can get rte1, tv3 an tg4 - with bad reception because i don't have a proper indoor aerial , but this is possible..

    I do have a balcony, so depending on the satellite dish i could hide it, but to put one up, the cable woud need to go from the satellite dish to the tv? - and this would involve drilling a hole in the wall? if i'm right, i'm thinking i won't get the deposit back from the landlord..

    I checked the roof in reference to an earlier post you had and the landlord only let NTL in, there are no dishes/antennae up there.. As its a small development of just 11 apartments, all owned by the same landlord (south dublin beside ucd build in celtic tiger years) , i wouldn't think he cared too much..

    Tonight it seems as though the ntl signal doesn't work.. i never connected ntl, it just seemed to be there when i plugged in the cable and have been managing to get tv by runner that cable through my dvd recorder and not being able to record and watch at the same time.. As the ntl signal has gone, it's not an option anymore, so it's ether connect and pay for ntl digital or figure out how to put a dish on the balcony and get around the hole drilling as discreetly as possible so as not to lose my deposit..

    I checked the links - the balcony is big enough to take a dish discreetly.. they'll see it if they look , but it's more the caretaker instead of the landlord that visits regularly, the landlord only does when it's to do with the 6 month checks and deposits - i can pull the curtain a little on that day...

    This i probably a stupid question, but there's no way to stick up a small dish and have it work via the ntl point so there's no drilling involved? If there's anyway to put up a dish, i'm guessing that's my cheapest option rather than paying ntl a min. of €25 a month.. I sure am sorry that i tried to save money in the first place by buying the tv online without ever realising that it didn't have a compatible tuner...

    i'm close to dunlaoghaire, so i entered this into www.satsig.net and selected 28.2 E Astra and got the details below so i'm guessing that a satellite dish might work? and that dish would give me free sat channels but not rte 1,2, tv3 etc. etc. and for that i'd need to get an indoor aerial, tune them to the dvb and save them as favourites and then turn the updates off?

    Do you think i'll be able to put a dish without the drilling?

    Thanks for all the help.. other than calling ntl , i wouldn' have a clue what to do or what my options are..

    thanks again..
    C
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 sparkles_I


    hi,

    i'm thinking that drilling to put the dish up should be ok, what i'm worried about is drilling for the cable to go from the dish to the tv.. as i'm guessing the only way is via a solid wall? so this would be something i leave behind me when i'd move out? just double checking as i'm not sure how this works.. Also the size of dish i'd need? smaller is better, but doesn't have to be flat ones as they're kind of pricey if i have to leave it behind and i have a balcony for it to go somewhere on the side of it..


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 20,712 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    sparkles_I wrote: »
    hi,

    i'm thinking that drilling to put the dish up should be ok, what i'm worried about is drilling for the cable to go from the dish to the tv.. as i'm guessing the only way is via a solid wall? so this would be something i leave behind me when i'd move out? just double checking as i'm not sure how this works.. Also the size of dish i'd need? smaller is better, but doesn't have to be flat ones as they're kind of pricey if i have to leave it behind and i have a balcony for it to go somewhere on the side of it..


    You can get a flat coax cable that will pass through the jam of a window and require no holes. I got one with my Lidl set up. A simple indoor area will receive the DTT signal around UCD, no ptoblem. I live in Dublin 4 and can get it on a bent coathanger left under the carpet. The direction of the satellite is aprox where the sun is at 10 am, so if you can see the Sun at that time and could point a dish at it you will be able to get satellite. Hope this helps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,871 ✭✭✭BowWow


    Sparkles,
    Welcome to the boards, but, your topic as nothing to do with this thread/forum.
    Go to the satellite forum and do a search - most of what you want is there in the stickies.
    BowWow


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭STB


    You can get a flat coax cable that will pass through the jam of a window and require no holes. I got one with my Lidl set up. A simple indoor area will receive the DTT signal around UCD, no ptoblem. I live in Dublin 4 and can get it on a bent coathanger left under the carpet. The direction of the satellite is aprox where the sun is at 10 am, so if you can see the Sun at that time and could point a dish at it you will be able to get satellite. Hope this helps.

    Yes no need to drill holes. Just fit one of these at the window. It flattens out the cable

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/F-Socket-Flat-Ribbon-Cable-Lead-Sky-Satellite-Cable-TV_W0QQitemZ330373898784QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_ConEle_SatCableFreeview_RL?hash=item4cebd1a220

    You then need to get two lengths of rg6 or ct100 cable and f-connectors to junction from this connector to connect to the sat dish and the TV.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    BowWow wrote: »
    Sparkles,
    Welcome to the boards, but, your topic as nothing to do with this thread/forum.
    Go to the satellite forum and do a search - most of what you want is there in the stickies.
    BowWow
    The situation can be just as easily applied to aerials for receiving terrestrial television, so surely it's of use here too?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 757 ✭✭✭Bog Butter


    Hi all. My sister will be buying a new tv soon. Has there been any developments with tv's compatible with Irish DTT? Does anybody have any advice on which tv to go for?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 63 ✭✭dgently


    I bought a Panasonic X20 last week, and can confirm that the "Ireland" setup now tunes all DTT stations successfully by default with full EPG. The VHF tuner allowed me to get TV3 on analogue.

    Still no MHEG-5 support for digital teletext, standard teletext supported (hope they keep broadcasting it!)

    As various posts have warned, there are no guarantees with any TV until "Saorview" approval cones on stream.


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