Garda: Vocation or Job?

DogmaticLefty · 11-02-2010 10:05PM #1

The cops are going on strike in response to govt pay and pension cuts.

Where do these guys get off in their demands for special treatment? There are 10,000s lining up to join the force.

Their smug entitlement complex is unbelievable.

cian1500ww · 11-02-2010 10:09PM

When are they going on strike ? Could be the ideal time to break some laws

:P

DubMedic · 11-02-2010 10:09PM

Your attitude is unbelievable.

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Pacing Mule · 11-02-2010 10:09PM

I think anyone who puts themselves out there, dealing with the scum of the earth on a daily basis, more often than not being abused whilst doing their best should be entitled to a lot more than they do actually get.

Call it special treatment but I'd call it fair treatment myself.

PS What the hell has your rant got to do with the thread title. ?

mikom · 11-02-2010 10:10PM

To be fair....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hkcZilKChI

partyatmygaff · 11-02-2010 10:12PM

DogmaticLefty wrote: »

The cops are going on strike in response to govt pay and pension cuts.

Where do these guys get off in their demands for special treatment? There are 10,000s lining up to join the force.

Their smug entitlement complex is unbelievable.

The gardaí can't go on strike so whoever told you that was BSing you.

seanybiker · 11-02-2010 10:14PM

Why shouldnt they go on strike. They are doing a thankless job. Taxi workers go on strike anytime someone farts. Loads of people have gone on strike over the years and ye dont whinge about them. Its not the cops fault that thousands want to join them. Im sure the cops patrolling the streets would be delighted to have more people to help them.
Saying that though , starting an anti guard thread is gonna get you loads of "thanks".

Red_Marauder · 11-02-2010 10:16PM

I'd say more like sentance.

I don't know what drives people to do this work any more than what drives people to endure a job that involves driving past my house at 5am collecting stinking bins. It is one of the most undesirable jobs I can imagine, but like the binmen I'm glad the Gardai bother their asses doing it, and I have a great deal of respect for them.

Personally, I wouldn't have the heart nor the stomach for it. I think most of us should question if we would before we begin our criticisms of Gardaí.

AckwelFoley · 11-02-2010 10:18PM

Personally i dont know what it is about the standard issue garda trousers..

You can put the finest specimen of a woman into a garda uniform and she will instantly turn into a muck savage with a hole on her like a badly assembled airbag

epgc3fyqirnbsx · 11-02-2010 10:21PM

Beware of the way the news is worded.
The vast majority wants some sort of action (as does just about everyone who risks losing money) but they have NOT voted on whether they want an all out illegal strike. Indeed even such a vote would be illegal. And I very much doubt that they majority would go for that anyway, cartainly none of the gardai I know would, or could even see such a thing happening.

Paulzx · 11-02-2010 10:22PM

DogmaticLefty wrote: »

The cops are going on strike in response to govt pay and pension cuts.

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You obviously don't understand what "industrial action short of a withdrawal of labour" means.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0211/garda.html

Sure don't let facts get in the way of an uneducated, garda bashing rant:D

DogmaticLefty · 11-02-2010 10:24PM

Pageant Messiah wrote: »

I think anyone who puts themselves out there, dealing with the scum of the earth on a daily basis, more often than not being abused whilst doing their best should be entitled to a lot more than they do actually get.

Call it special treatment but I'd call it fair treatment myself.

Stupid logic.

It's not just gardai who have to deal with skobies on a daily basis. Taxi drivers and city centre shop assistants get spat at and stabbed on a regular basis.

Paulzx · 11-02-2010 10:26PM

DogmaticLefty wrote: »

Stupid logic.

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Oh the irony!!!

Pacing Mule · 11-02-2010 10:30PM

DogmaticLefty wrote: »

Stupid logic.

It's not just gardai who have to deal with skobies on a daily basis. Taxi drivers and city centre shop assistants get spat at and stabbed on a regular basis.

Paulzx said it all about re the first part of your post.

Not as regular as a member of the Gardai, who is called to assist the taxi drivers and shop assistants who are under the attack.

bonerm · 11-02-2010 10:31PM

Where are option 3 and 4 (Dodge and Scam.)?

Bonito · 11-02-2010 10:33PM

snyper wrote: »

Personally i dont know what it is about the standard issue garda trousers..

You can put the finest specimen of a woman into a garda uniform and she will instantly turn into a muck savage with a hole on her like a badly assembled airbag

Not the new garda in my local station

ooooffffft!!!

Also she says it's sexist to call her a bean garda and demanded we call her garda

I'd respect her authority anyway!!!

AckwelFoley · 11-02-2010 10:38PM

Bonito wrote: »

Also she says it's sexist to call her a bean garda and demanded we call her garda

I'd respect her authority anyway!!!

Fiesty.

Next day your passing bring in a dog collar and leash and ask her if she wants to go for a walk.

elsy · 11-02-2010 10:38PM

Op you haven't a clue they voted for industrial action not including strike only 18 per cent were in favour of strike. my husband is a garda and now due to all the cuts he know earns under 30k a year and thats gross pay without tax and levies he has been bitten punched and im sure more i don't know about and i tell ya now he is one of the good guys that would never abuse his power. the hours are a nightmare we have 2 young children and some weeks he might be lucky to c them twice. all this for 30k

InkSlinger67 · 11-02-2010 10:42PM

Sure let them go on strike, the army / FCA have our backs.

Except if its snowing, I suppose. Or a bank holiday. Or if an actual crime is taking place.....Eeek! Scratch that! :eek:

AckwelFoley · 11-02-2010 10:44PM

elsy wrote: »

Op you haven't a clue they voted for industrial action not including strike only 18 per cent were in favour of strike. my husband is a garda and now due to all the cuts he know earns under 30k a year and thats gross pay without tax and levies he has been bitten punched and im sure more i don't know about and i tell ya now he is one of the good guys that would never abuse his power. the hours are a nightmare we have 2 young children and some weeks he might be lucky to c them twice. all this for 30k

I work for 19k

I used to earn nearly 40k, i was made redundant twice in 12 months

Its standard 40 hr week but between this and that it ends up to be 50.. for the same money.

I dont have a pension

My boss is an asshole

I dont know if i will have a job next month. Its the private sector.

We have no Union.

I have a mortage a fiance with arthritus at 28 years of age and an 8 year old with a hole in his heart.

Lifes a bitch

Ride the slump like the rest of us.

Have a nice day

DogmaticLefty · 11-02-2010 10:44PM

elsy wrote: »

he know earns under 30k a year and thats gross pay without tax and levies

Did you factor the allowances into that figure? Is that pre- or post-tax?

The poor chap. If he's so unhappy, he might think about another career? I hear sales is very lucrative (if he can hack it).

I know people with advanced degrees who earn less than 30k. And they're damn happy to have a job that they love doing, despite the fact that they have no pension, will have to work till they're well over 55 and have to pay 100% of their rent.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 11-02-2010 10:46PM

DogmaticLefty wrote: »

Did you factor the allowances into that figure? Is that pre- or post-tax?

The poor chap. If he's so unhappy, he might think about another career? I hear sales is very lucrative.

I know people with advanced degrees who earn less than 30k. And they're damn happy to have a job that they love doing, despite the fact that they have no pension, will have to work till they're 55 and have to pay 100% of their rent.

I don't think it's entirely about the money: these guys WANT to do the job, they just want to respectflly paid for the job they do.

I think something's wrong when a sales executive gets paid mroe than a guard.

A-Trak · 11-02-2010 10:48PM

I'd imagine the overwhelming majority of new Garda recruits join to at the very least do some good and contribute positively to our society.

After a short amount of time, both the job its self, the public they've to deal with, and moreso the absolute corruption of the entire garda force and the public system they're in, (When you're on holidays leave as a Guard , you get paid for unsociable hours for you would have worked if you were there, even though you're not there, and then your colleagues get paid overtime to cover your shift,) lead to the situation we're in now.

It's endemic, and we're paying for it.

DogmaticLefty · 11-02-2010 10:49PM

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

I don't think it's entirely about the money: these guys WANT to do the job, they just want to respectflly paid for the job they do.

I think something's wrong when a sales executive gets paid mroe than a guard.

So what's a "respectful" salary then eh?

AckwelFoley · 11-02-2010 10:51PM

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

I think something's wrong when a sales executive gets paid mroe than a guard.

why?

DamoDLK · 11-02-2010 10:52PM

DogmaticLefty wrote: »

The cops are going on strike in response to govt pay and pension cuts...

Don't be silly..

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 11-02-2010 10:52PM

DogmaticLefty wrote: »

So what's a "respectful" salary then eh?

Therein lies the question...! It's a good question, but it's something you'd to ask them. Obviously, they feel that they're not getting it.

DogmaticLefty · 11-02-2010 10:53PM

A-Trak wrote: »

I'd imagine the overwhelming majority of new Garda recruits join to at the very least do some good and contribute positively to our society.

You'd think people who volunteer to work in homeless shelters were "respectfully paid".

A-Trak · 11-02-2010 10:56PM

DogmaticLefty wrote: »

You'd think people who volunteer to work in homeless shelters were "respectfully paid".

Ehm....you'd do well to read the rest of my post that you've quoted.

elsy · 11-02-2010 10:57PM

sniper by name sniper by nature! that 30k is before tax thats what gross means! we have a 2yr old going thru chemo so i am quite aware life sucks. can i ask the last time someone got shot or stabbed or killed in your line of work?

DogmaticLefty · 11-02-2010 11:02PM

elsy wrote: »

sniper by name sniper by nature! that 30k is before tax thats what gross means! we have a 2yr old going thru chemo so i am quite aware life sucks. can i ask the last time someone got shot or stabbed or killed in your line of work?

Taxi driving is dangerous. Bin men handle syringes. Gardai get spat at. Truck drivers get killed. Farmers get caught in machinery.

The difference is that when a Garda gets injured, they get massive compensation and indefinite sick leave.

And besides, you'd think they'd weigh up the risks before they joined the force.

Garda: Vocation or Job?

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