What do you think of 'society' today?

m@cc@ · 11-02-2010 01:13AM #1

You hear a lot a the breakdown of society and morals but do you really think things are any worse today than they were 50, 100, or 500 years ago?

Personally, in regards to 50 years ago at least, there are definitely appears to be less consideration given for the fellow man/woman on the street. But then then there also is more of a light shone on issues like financial scandals, paedophilia etc. today than what had went on in the past. Possibly, this could be a reason why society today looks bad in it's own time.

My name is URL · 11-02-2010 01:15AM

It's all to do with the dregs of society, if that part of society didn't exist then we'd be sorted, but probably socialist

builttospill · 11-02-2010 01:16AM

Generic topic is generic.

DogmaticLefty · 11-02-2010 01:16AM

*waits for someone to blame the Church or the Brits for all of society's woes*

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brummytom · 11-02-2010 01:17AM

People are cunts

People have always been cunts

People will always be cunts

Dudess · 11-02-2010 01:17AM

m@cc@ wrote: »

You hear a lot a the breakdown of society and morals

Especially on Boards - by 19-year-old wannabe curmudgeons.

Society has its problems of course, but reports of it "going to hell" are greatly exaggerated.

MEGA ANUS · 11-02-2010 01:17AM

I've just started writing a book called "The Gradual Analisation of Modern Society" and i would appreciate any input.

epgc3fyqirnbsx · 11-02-2010 01:19AM

It's what you make of it

Don't sweat the small stuff

dylano_k · 11-02-2010 01:19AM

MEGA ANUS wrote: »

I've just started writing a book called "The Gradual Analisation of Modern Society" and i would appreciate any input.

I dont think anyone named MEGA ANUS will be getting much "input" here

MEGA ANUS · 11-02-2010 01:20AM

dylano_k wrote: »

I dont think anyone named MEGA ANUS will be getting much "input" here

I'm expecting MEGA INPUT.

degrassinoel · 11-02-2010 01:20AM

MEGA ANUS wrote: »

I've just started writing a book called "The Gradual Analisation of Modern Society" and i would appreciate any input.

into the book?

Biggins · 11-02-2010 01:21AM

MEGA ANUS wrote: »

I've just started writing a book called "The Gradual Analisation of Modern Society" and i would appreciate any input.

I'd recommend starting your research in the political buildings in Dublin.
They have been shafting in that general direction for years and have decades of first-hand knowledge on "Analisation of Modern Society".
Its now "us" and "them" more so.

( is "Analisation" even a word? From an editorial point of view, that's the first thing they will pick on.)

Pompey Magnus · 11-02-2010 01:24AM

DogmaticLefty wrote: »

*waits for someone to blame the Church or the Brits for all of society's woes*

*waits for someone to blame the loss of the Church for all of society's woes*

epgc3fyqirnbsx · 11-02-2010 01:24AM

Charco wrote: »

*waits for someone to blame the loss of the Church for all of society's woes*

It's obviously all down to the greed of the public sector

Sofaspud · 11-02-2010 01:28AM

Phillip Loose Row wrote: »

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mehmeh12 · 11-02-2010 01:29AM

'There is no such thing as society'-Margaret Thatcher

So very true in ireland :pac:

DogmaticLefty · 11-02-2010 01:30AM

Charco wrote: »

*waits for someone to blame the loss of the Church for all of society's woes*

And what about the Brits?

drunkmonkey · 11-02-2010 01:32AM

Phillip Loose Row wrote: »

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ON THE SCREEN. THIS IS SO FREAKY BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY WORKS

Oi, cut it out!! :pac:

MEGA ANUS · 11-02-2010 01:34AM

DogmaticLefty wrote: »

And what about the Brits?

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seanwhite20 · 11-02-2010 01:38AM

MEGA ANUS wrote: »

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back under your bridge troll you have no powers here......

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 11-02-2010 01:40AM

There are two issues here.

Firstly, there are so much more emotive news stories in the media than there were before. BUT this does NOT mean that there is so much more crime going on. It just means more of it is getting reported and it's getting reported in such a way that it makes poeple think that society is a lot more scumbaggery now than it was in the past.

Secondly, However, there is a lot mroe care in society these days: if little Jimmy can't learn his Irish or wets the bed, he's far more likely to get a little reassurance and compassion now that he would thirty or fourty years ago.

The problem is that the use of fear as a control or deterant is no longer working and there's no plan B, other than use more fear. It worked in the past because there was no accountability and a high level of ignorance. People didn't ask questions when they should have. Fear can only work when there is ignorance. Now, in a world of multi-media, internet and so forth, everyone can access pretty much any information they want. We KNOW more about the authoritative fgures than ever before, and we know that they are NOT automatically right. We are no longer ignorant. We know that the priest is not automaically right. Pandora's box has been opened, and there is no going back.

This is why I'm of the opinon that you need to sort out these kids and find out what they want BEFORE they become teenage scumbags. Because once they get that far, there's not a great deal you can do other than wait for them kill or rape or murder and demand the death penalty, which is pointless because there's no more fear.

DogmaticLefty · 11-02-2010 01:45AM

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

There are two issues here.

Firstly, there are so much more emotive news stories in the media than there were before. BUT this does NOT mean that there is so much more crime going on. It just means more of it is getting reported and it's getting reported in such a way that it makes poeple think that society is a lot more scumbaggery now than it was in the past.

Secondly, However, there is a lot mroe care in society these days: if little Jimmy can't learn his Irish or wets the bed, he's far more likely to get a little reassurance and compassion now that he would thirty or fourty years ago.

The problem is that the use of fear as a control or deterant is no longer working and there's no plan B, other than use more fear. It worked in the past because there was no accountability and a high level of ignorance. People didn't ask questions when they should have. Fear can only work when there is ignorance. Now, in a world of multi-media, internet and so forth, everyone can access pretty much any information they want. We KNOW more about the authoritative fgures than ever before, and we know that they are NOT automatically right. We are no longer ignorant. We know that the priest is not automaically right. Pandora's box has been opened, and there is no going back.

This is why I'm of the opinon that you need to sort out these kids and find out what they want BEFORE they become teenage scumbags. Because once they get that far, there's not a great deal you can do other than wait for them kill or rape or murder and demand the death penalty, which is pointless because there's no more fear.

It's a well-known fact that murder is up considerably from say 50 years ago.

http://www.crimecouncil.gov.ie/statistics_cri_crime_table1.html

epgc3fyqirnbsx · 11-02-2010 01:49AM

DogmaticLefty wrote: »

It's a well-known fact that murder is up considerably.

I actually know very little about this but for arguments sake I'm gonna ask if this has something to do with population?? Irish population got a lot bigger, as did urban centres.

And looking over to England there was conscription at the start of and the middle of the 20th century but not at the end

Is it just a matter of more people more crime?

DogmaticLefty · 11-02-2010 01:53AM

Paisleigh Shallow Ref wrote: »

I actually know very little about this but for arguments sake I'm gonna ask if this has something to do with population?? Irish population got a lot bigger, as did urban centres.

And looking over to England there was conscription at the start of and the middle of the 20th century but not at the end

Is it just a matter of more people more crime?

There's also detection rates to consider. You need to do a principled component analysis that takes into account all significant factors.

Statisticians can do this.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 11-02-2010 01:53AM

DogmaticLefty wrote: »

It's a well-known fact that murder is up considerably from say 50 years ago.

http://www.crimecouncil.gov.ie/statistics_cri_crime_table1.html

I was referring to general crime. The tables actually show that crime levels (for all crimes) are on a par with those of the mid seventies, maybe a fraction higher. Which is not bad, considering the population is much higher than that it was now.

Murder level does seem to have gone up though, fair point. But the main reason for this is the gangland crimes and, as I stated, that's mainly because more and more fear isn't working.

If anything, only the innocent people are getting more and more scared.

Thanks for posting that link. Interesting reading.

Cheap Thrills! · 11-02-2010 01:55AM

Society today...it's all a bit too chavtastic :cool:

Pompey Magnus · 11-02-2010 01:58AM

DogmaticLefty wrote: »

It's a well-known fact that murder is up considerably from say 50 years ago.

http://www.crimecouncil.gov.ie/statistics_cri_crime_table1.html

It is also well known that humans are less likely to die a violent death today compared to almost any other time in human history.

KungPao · 11-02-2010 04:56AM

I'm no psychoanalysitician but maybe it's because we have no common enemy. In days of yore it was 'the Brits', 'the prods', even the Nazi's for some. But these days we don't have any real beef with anyone, so we just kill each other.

We need a good war to sort out this society of ours.

Slugs · 11-02-2010 09:01AM

Doomed doomed we're all doomed, where's my seat on the shuttle off of here! :P

super_furry · 11-02-2010 09:28AM

It was grand until Charles Haughey invented the working class in the 80s.

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