Which of these is worse?

recylingbin · 07-02-2010 06:37PM

Bonito wrote: »

Pointless and redundant thread. Ask a mod to put in the option of "nothing wrong with either and the Op shouldn't watch rugby if he doesn't like it".

Can't stand people who moan about something they have no interest (and most the time no knowledge) in!

/rant

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brummytom · 07-02-2010 06:39PM

baz2009 wrote: »

I can't stand Ireland's Call. It's not intimidating enough to be a rugby national anthem. And the fact that they sing that at away matches instead of Amhrán na bhFiann, sickens me.

Why don't you use the Soldiers' Song?

bonerm · 07-02-2010 06:39PM

Ireland's Call is a perfect song for the rugby chaps. An insincere anthem for insincere attendees.

Pittens · 07-02-2010 06:40PM

Why don't you use the Soldiers' Song?

Because the Irish team is not just for the Republic of Ireland.

Makes sense, but I dont have to like the song.

Bonito · 07-02-2010 06:41PM

recylingbin wrote: »

reported for going off topic

Sorry but you'll find I kept to the topic

Relax the cax Op this is AH, it's a chilled atmosphere. I'd advise you lose the attitude towards fellow posters.

karlog · 07-02-2010 06:44PM

There both sh*t

gonnaplayrugby · 07-02-2010 06:45PM

why do so many irish hate the middle and upper class. is it the peasent history/ reply to bonerm's comment.

Oisinjm · 07-02-2010 06:45PM

Personally I thought the singing off Flower of Scotland was amazing today. When the music stopped and it was just all of the crowd singing along. Hair on the back of my neck stood up

the_syco · 07-02-2010 06:50PM

Although the new one is not bad, it doesn't beat the Soliders Song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7YmkpxEtuI

Original Steyr · 07-02-2010 07:10PM

recylingbin wrote: »

Ireland's Call - a mockery of an 'anthem', beloved of people who are no good at soccer or GAA.

Soccer is terrible full of over hyped over paid twats.

Original Steyr · 07-02-2010 07:13PM

the_syco wrote: »

Although the new one is not bad, it doesn't beat the Soliders Song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7YmkpxEtuI

Absolutely, one of the best Anthems around, especially when done with all the pomp that the Gardai and Army bands do it with, i love Amhrán na bhFiann.

Bonito · 07-02-2010 07:17PM

My friends dad was in a pub a while ago where there was a premier league match and an irish international on.

He was watching the rugby. A man asked him in the jacks was he enjoyin the footie, he replied no I'm not watchin that muck I'm watchin the rugby. The other man went on a little rant about supporting northy's etc etc etc. My friends dad said nothing back 'til leaving the toilet where he replied "Hey, enjoy your ENGLISH premier league match ya hypocritical bollix"

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 07-02-2010 07:26PM

IvySlayer wrote: »

What's the point of this thread?

Trolling...

Mint Sauce · 07-02-2010 07:28PM

tbh, most of the anthems and songs assicated with the rugby makes my spine tingle at times, when you have a sell out crowd singing their song with such pride and emotion, weather it be the irish with 'irelands call' or 'Amhrán na bhFiann', the welsh with "Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau" or 'bread of heaven' which the crowd ocasionally break into, or the scotish with 'flower of scotland', you some times cant help joining in, and for all of the above, i will turn the TV up for, mainly for the above reasons

even if you dont like the national anthem or agree with the lyrics of their song, you should still respect it, i was born and raised in england, i respect the anthem, even though i dont agree with all the words, but when watching the english match yesterday, even i dont support the english team, i found my self singing along when the crowd broke into 'sweet chariot', again because of the emotion when the crowd was singing, its hard to discribe, it just sounds exciting, just wish wales won though.

brummytom wrote: »

Why don't you use the Soldiers' Song?

as 'Amhrán na bhFiann' is the anthem for the republic, and as the rugby team represents both sides of the boarder they also use 'irelands call' representing the island of ireland

'Amhrán na bhFiann' is only played at matches that take place in the republic, 'irelands call' is played both home and away to represent the island

biko · 07-02-2010 08:39PM

Flower of Scotland is a great song, aye.
Although not as great as

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm1BZnm-SIE

Alba gu bràth!

brummytom · 07-02-2010 08:54PM

irish-stew wrote: »

as 'Amhrán na bhFiann' is the anthem for the republic, and as the rugby team represents both sides of the boarder they also use 'irelands call' representing the island of ireland

'Amhrán na bhFiann' is only played at matches that take place in the republic, 'irelands call' is played both home and away to represent the island

Oh right. You know, I'd never even noticed the Rugby team was just called 'Ireland' and not RoI

You should have a nice upbeat national anthem;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXo1AeJKgkw

Or:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM-CQpMPc8Q

- Is it wrong that I think that's a fantastic song?

stovelid · 07-02-2010 09:43PM

They need to come out on to the field to something more in keeping with the theme of burly men groping each other in packs. YMCA or some thing by Right Said Fred perhaps.

HalloweenJack · 07-02-2010 09:45PM

Haven't heard Flower of Scotland but I find Ireland's Call painful to listen to.

thetonynator · 07-02-2010 10:09PM

irelands call is the biggest heap of $hite ever sung . . .

just sing amhrán na bhfiann and get over it . . .

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 07-02-2010 10:46PM

recylingbin wrote: »

reported for going off topic

Well bonito is quite right

Why whine and moan about something you are completely ignorant to?

Herb Powell · 07-02-2010 11:19PM

gonnaplayrugby wrote: »

nothing will ever beat les marseillais

amhran na bhfian is awfully crap. one of the worst anthems. irelands call is ok, at least its inspiring unlike the other crap.

flower of scotland=meh

it's about goin out to kill brits it's deadddddddly

Liam Byrne · 07-02-2010 11:26PM

Ireland's Call

Ireland's call is inspiring and far better than the violence-inspired "Amhran na bhFiann"

I mean, even the translation is "Soldier's Song", so how the hell can it represent the normal people of this country who aren't soldiers ?

Add in the fact that the "fighting for Ireland" has been dragged into disrepute and it adds up to a pretty embarrassing anthem.

And the fact that most people only have "the presidential salute" part of it, and not the whole anthem, and you'll see just how "in tune" those who claim to like it are.

Check it out for yourselves and see what lyrics of the national anthem you actually know.

http://www.irishroots.org/aoh/anthem.htm

Pittens · 07-02-2010 11:31PM

Ireland's call is inspiring and far better than the violence-inspired "Amhran na bhFiann"

Many national anthems have some kind of violence in them. Move on.

m@cc@ · 07-02-2010 11:41PM

recylingbin wrote: »

Flower of Scotland - an awful dirge, Sounds like something that would be played as you were on your way to the gallows.

Ireland's Call - a mockery of an 'anthem', beloved of people who are no good at soccer or GAA.

That would be 95% of the population then?

El Siglo · 07-02-2010 11:45PM

Liam Byrne wrote:

Ireland's call is inspiring and far better than the violence-inspired "Amhran na bhFiann"

I mean, even the translation is "Soldier's Song", so how the hell can it represent the normal people of this country who aren't soldiers ?

Add in the fact that the "fighting for Ireland" has been dragged into disrepute and it adds up to a pretty embarrassing anthem.

And the fact that most people only have "the presidential salute" part of it, and not the whole anthem, and you'll see just how "in tune" those who claim to like it are.

Check it out for yourselves and see what lyrics of the national anthem you actually know.

http://www.irishroots.org/aoh/anthem.htm

It's nice to see the usual revisionist; Kevin Myarse-John Waters-Ruth Dudley Edwards types are here making their presence felt. It's refreshing to see how everything that's Nationalist is evil and really we're just a bunch of fenian muck savages singing a violent song...
Amhrán na bhFiann is more than soldiers fighting, it's about defiance, it's about not putting up with ****. It probably has more resonance and power than Ireland's Call, mainly because nobody outside of the country understands it. So what if people don't sing the whole song, they sing the part that matters. I mean, does it require a disclaimer at the end of it: "Do Not Take Literally"? And if you think that it's violent, then you've never seen the translation of La Marsellaise.

Pittens · 07-02-2010 11:48PM

The only specific mention of a people in Soldiers Song is Saxons - verse 4 - and I cant see that in the Irish version, nor is it ever sung. the rest is fightinh Tyrants etc.

Also not sung - although it could be - is verse two of God Save Ms Windsor. The one with the Rebellious Scots, and that is the official national anthem of Scotland when playing as the UK - i.e. Olympics.

ItSheepDawg · 07-02-2010 11:58PM

Both.

K-9 · 08-02-2010 02:29AM

Bonito wrote: »

My friends dad was in a pub a while ago where there was a premier league match and an irish international on.

He was watching the rugby. A man asked him in the jacks was he enjoyin the footie, he replied no I'm not watchin that muck I'm watchin the rugby. The other man went on a little rant about supporting northy's etc etc etc. My friends dad said nothing back 'til leaving the toilet where he replied "Hey, enjoy your ENGLISH premier league match ya hypocritical bollix"

LOL. Donegal played Derry in a Ulster Semi Final the day Ireland played Spain in the World Cup in 02.

Nobody was bothered in the pub about Donegal.

People are funny like that.

sdanseo · 08-02-2010 03:44AM

Ireland's Call

I like Ireland's Call as a song, it's a great piece of music and I like the way it gets a crowd going.

However politically and socially I reckon it's a farce. Amhrán na Bfhiann will get the crowd going too. And louder.

Magill · 08-02-2010 04:14AM

Irelands call is good... some people need to stop taking everything so ****ing serious tho *cough* El Siglo *cough*... Its only a game, dont **** yourself.

Which of these is worse?

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