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humanji · 27-01-2010 06:05PM

Draupnir wrote: »

That plus the fact there are three Star Wars movies on their that have been released twice, in two different versions to two different generations. There's at least 3 movies that have have more than 2 general releases on there too.

What about all the people who went to the cinema to see Avatar and hated it? Do you subtract them from that total too?

Seriously, it's just a meaningless chart.

Draupnir · 27-01-2010 06:09PM

humanji wrote: »

What about all the people who went to the cinema to see Avatar and hated it? Do you subtract them from that total too?

I don't really see what that has to do with anything?

humanji wrote: »

Seriously, it's just a meaningless chart.

Agreed. Would have never even acknowledged it until it was posted here.

opinion guy · 27-01-2010 07:00PM

Well by that rational the "biggest movie of all time" moniker for having the highest gross that is being made so much of is also a meaningless list/title

humanji · 28-01-2010 10:22AM

Draupnir wrote: »

I don't really see what that has to do with anything?/

Well the article said that popularity was guaged by ticket sales. I hated it, but bought a ticket to see it ni the cinema. So even though I hated it, They considered the fact that I bought a ticket as meaning I liked it.

So ticket sales isn't a particularly great way to guage a films popularity. It's more a guage at marketing strength.

opinion guy · 28-01-2010 11:27AM

Popularity != likeability

humanji · 28-01-2010 12:29PM

Popularity also != ticket sales alone

Galvasean · 28-01-2010 04:36PM

*whoosh*

People sure are getting pedantic about semantics.

Orizio · 28-01-2010 09:19PM

DazMarz wrote: »

Some record for James Cameron too.

Say what you will about the man (some people maintain he's an arséhole and one thing and another) but he has crafted some of the most quality films of our time (as director unless otherwise stated):

-Aliens (1986)
-The Terminator (1984)
-Terminator II: Judgement Day (1991)
-Rambo: First Blood Part II (1985; writer)
-The Abyss (1989)
-Titanic (1997)

and now Avatar... Nice work, Jimbo!:D

The majority of those films are horrible, although Avatar is particularly terrible.

Orizio · 28-01-2010 09:28PM

So just back - easily one of the worst films I've ever seen in my entire life. Terrible acting, terrible writing, its unintentionally (I'm hoping) racist, overwhemingly religious, exceedingly cliched and full of intellectual and emotional manipulation in the most superficial and horrid sense.

I actually thought the director was playing a game with those watching, like he was trying to make the most obnoxious, cliched and utterly unimaginitive film ever...but then I realised it was a Cameron film, and par for the course.

Magic Eight Ball · 28-01-2010 09:48PM

Orizio wrote: »

The majority of those films are horrible

:rolleyes:

Wanna back that up?

Orizio · 28-01-2010 09:56PM

Trevor Coulahan wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Wanna back that up?

Avatar, Rambo and Titanic hardly need explanation. Aliens is overrated, basically a Vietnam, movie in space which is again terribly written. Terminator I could care less about really, The Abyss was excellent. So a mixture of the mainly horrible, the mediocre and the solitary classic.

Tragedy · 28-01-2010 09:59PM

He doesn't have to, it's his opinion.

To be honest, I wouldn't watch any of the movies he listed today - although I enjoyed them as a kid.

irishh_bob · 28-01-2010 10:08PM

Orizio wrote: »

Avatar, Rambo and Titanic hardly need explanation. Aliens is overrated, basically a Vietnam, movie in space which is again terribly written. Terminator I could care less about really, The Abyss was excellent. So a mixture of the mainly horrible, the mediocre and the solitary classic.

hated the abyss , my least favourite cameron movie , never understood its appeal , the term paint drying springs to mind

opinion guy · 28-01-2010 10:18PM

Galvasean wrote: »

*whoosh*

People sure are getting pedantic about semantics.

you're a poet and you don't know it!

Flamed Diving · 28-01-2010 10:40PM

Ths film was so bad, I felt the need to come back and reiterate it.

Blome · 29-01-2010 12:20AM

I liked the ending it left you something to think about on a cold evening..

Sir Gallagher · 01-02-2010 09:10PM

The Star Wars review guy has just done a review of Avatar..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJarz7BYnHA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLzKwTcGO_0

RandolphEsq · 01-02-2010 11:11PM

irishh_bob wrote: »

hated the abyss , my least favourite cameron movie , never understood its appeal , the term paint drying springs to mind

dloob · 02-02-2010 02:11PM

Finally saw it. Nice visuals, wouldn't bother watching it again, definitly wouldn't be worth it in 2D.

Sequel could be interesting I presume it's the RDA coming back with bigger guns.
Maybe accidently drop an nuke or two?

RandolphEsq · 02-02-2010 03:08PM

dloob wrote: »

Finally saw it. Nice visuals, wouldn't bother watching it again, definitly wouldn't be worth it in 2D.

Sequel could be interesting I presume it's the RDA coming back with bigger guns.
Maybe accidently drop an nuke or two?

I hear it will be a blue movie

Morlar · 05-02-2010 02:54PM

Finally saw it and will watch it again. Visually very appealing, almost every frame was a pleasure to look at. The computer effects version of cinematography (virtual cinematography ? ) was outstanding. The plot was so-so

. Typical 'big bad heartless corporations vs little simple ethnic nature people' type stuff. The ending is telegraphed a mile away too.

. Screw the plot though it's fantastic visually and while that is normally not enough alone to make a movie good in this case it is.

Richard Dower · 05-02-2010 04:43PM

Now the most successful movie in history!...has passed Titanic at the box office, and it's early days!

If it wins best film it will get more buzz, DVD + Blu-Ray sales....2 billion + i'd say.

Catenaccio! · 05-02-2010 06:04PM

Sad.

uncleoswald · 05-02-2010 06:20PM

Can I ask why people have such hope that this movie does well at the box office? I've never really understood why it matters to people so much. And its more then just an interest, you can tell from the tone of a lot of the posts that people are willing it to do well. I doubt any of the people here value the popularity or financial success of there favourite films/music/television most of the time but it seems to be different with Avatar. Why?

Its not a case that if it does well you'll see more movies like it. What you'll see are boardroom driven superficial copy-cats. Titanic's success led to Pearl Harbour.....

Morlar · 05-02-2010 07:23PM

uncleoswald wrote: »

Can I ask why people have such hope that this movie does well at the box office? I've never really understood why it matters to people so much. And its more then just an interest, you can tell from the tone of a lot of the posts that people are willing it to do well. I doubt any of the people here value the popularity or financial success of there favourite films/music/television most of the time but it seems to be different with Avatar. Why?

Its not a case that if it does well you'll see more movies like it. What you'll see are boardroom driven superficial copy-cats. Titanic's success led to Pearl Harbour.....

I suppose it's to do with the prestige of the accolade. I don't think anyone is chanting for him like at a football match or going to lose sleep over this but having said that personally I'd rather cameron get it for avatar than michael bay for whatever.

alex73 · 06-02-2010 09:43PM

went to see Avatar today, I heard so much about it that I said I would see it. Well it was worth it. 3D was great.

Hank_Jones · 07-02-2010 03:43AM

I think this film will probably ruin the film industry as we know it.

People will be pumping money into making 3D movies, when those films don't even need to be.

I honestly didn't think that much of Avatar, it has nice visuals and that, but it has very little character development and story for a 3 hour movie.
I need my films to have interesting characters and exciting dialogue, like Pulp Fiction, or Alien or Goodfellas.

Beyond visuals Avatar offers very little, doesn't look half as good in 2D either.

alex73 · 07-02-2010 01:59PM

Hank_Jones wrote: »

I think this film will probably ruin the film industry as we know it.

People will be pumping money into making 3D movies, when those films don't even need to be.

I honestly didn't think that much of Avatar, it has nice visuals and that, but it has very little character development and story for a 3 hour movie.
I need my films to have interesting characters and exciting dialogue, like Pulp Fiction, or Alien or Goodfellas.

Beyond visuals Avatar offers very little, doesn't look half as good in 2D either.

I disagree at the end of the day like it or not avatar has been the most sucessful movie so far. Prople are going in there thousands to see it in the cinema in3d. It has not fallen to the pirate copies because how to you copy 3d movie? I think it will save the movie industry and drive people back to the cinema

Tefral · 07-02-2010 02:05PM

alex73 wrote: »

I think it will save the movie industry and drive people back to the cinema

Exactly, and i know this is what the film industry is thinking too

Sad Professor · 07-02-2010 09:41PM

I finally got dragged to see this today. And it was everything I thought it would be. Namely: underwhelming.

However it is definitely worth seeing just for the sheer visual bluster of it all. But that's all it is - bluster. It is far from a visual masterpiece. A great theatrical experience, sure, but there's nothing greatly cinematic in the true sense about it. There's not a single image or sequence from it that I reckon I will recall 10 years from now. Horner's score was also very uninspired.

There's a lot about Cameron as director that I admire. I still think T2 is one of the greatest action films ever made. But all his failings as a filmmaker are on full display here.

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