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minimum wage

  • 04-02-2010 10:59PM
    #1
    poppyvalley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 372 ✭✭


    employers who say they cant pay the minimum wage should feck off. GET OUT!! do something else besides exploiting your employees


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  • #2
    Tchaikovsky
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,185 ✭✭✭Tchaikovsky


    Report the exploitative *****


  • #3
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    poppyvalley wrote: »
    employers who say they cant pay the minimum wage should feck off. GET OUT!! do something else besides exploiting your employees

    ... or put their prices up...? In theory, yes, I agree, but a low paid job is better than nothing.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • #4
    Coriolanus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,879 ✭✭✭Coriolanus


    I guess they could always fire one or two people.


  • #5
    xsiborg
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,635 ✭✭✭xsiborg


    employees who whinge about their employers not paying the minimum wage should realise that their feet are not stuck with bostik and they can leave the job! :rolleyes:


  • #6
    Tchaikovsky
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,185 ✭✭✭Tchaikovsky


    This really boils my blood. A recession is no reason whatsoever for an employer to break the law and treat an employee like a slave.


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  • #7
    Voltex
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,584 ✭✭✭Voltex


    Tchaikovsky wrote: »
    This really boils my blood. A recession is no reason whatsoever for an employer to break the law and treat an employee like a slave.
    A minimum wage set during an economic boom...and then bumped up again is criminal.
    £5 p/h I say!


  • #8
    Mark200
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭Mark200


    The minimum wage should have been lowered since we're now in deflation.


  • #9
    OutlawPete
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    Mark200 wrote: »
    The minimum wage should have been lowered since we're now in deflation.


    Minimum wage is low enough for God sake.

    If it was any lower, even more people wouldn't bother working and just sign on.

    Just tax the rich rich bast*rds more.


  • #10
    the_syco
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,310 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Mark200 wrote: »
    The minimum wage should have been lowered since we're now in deflation.
    Right after Social Welfare gets slashed by a third...


  • #11
    Mark200
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭Mark200


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    Minimum wage is low enough for God sake.

    If it was any lower, even more people wouldn't bother working and just sign on.

    It's one of the highest, if not the highest, in Europe.


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  • #12
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,755 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Mark200 wrote: »
    The minimum wage should have been lowered since we're now in deflation.

    +1, one of the miriad of reasons why prices haven't fallen further along with high rates and energy prices


  • #13
    greendom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,382 ✭✭✭✭greendom


    Mark200 wrote: »
    It's one of the highest, if not the highest, in Europe.

    AS is the cost of living - anyway shouldn't that be something to be proud of. We actually care for the less privileged in our society?


  • #14
    greendom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,382 ✭✭✭✭greendom


    the_syco wrote: »
    Right after Social Welfare gets slashed by a third...

    Yes let's go for real misery and poverty


  • #15
    Mark200
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭Mark200


    greendom wrote: »
    AS is the cost of living

    They're not mutually exclusive - prices of goods and services become higher as the cost of the labour to produce these goods and services becomes higher.
    greendom wrote: »
    anyway shouldn't that be something to be proud of. We actually care for the less privileged in our society?

    Well there are going to be more 'less privileged' people in our society if businesses can't afford to employ them.


  • #16
    Coriolanus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,879 ✭✭✭Coriolanus


    Strangely enough, when you tax rich people excessively, they decide they don't really like this working lark all that much and retire onto their nest eggs.

    Ask your parents what it was like in the eighties for an idea of how badly the idea can go.

    Anyway, we need a high minimum wage to incentivise working. If anything we should slash the "jobseekers allowance" (and yes, by commas, I'm implying a lot of claimants are spurious) and put whatever money is saved into cancer vaccines.


  • #17
    ScouseMouse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,070 ✭✭✭ScouseMouse


    greendom wrote: »
    AS is the cost of living - anyway shouldn't that be something to be proud of. We actually care for the less privileged in our society?

    At what expense?

    Pricing us out of the international markets so all the companies export the jobs leaving us with zilch?

    Then everyone loses.

    Supporting the less well off is one thing but .....


  • #18
    myflipflops
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭myflipflops


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    Minimum wage is low enough for God sake.
    .

    Does Ireland not have quite a high minimim wage relative to the most of the rest of the world?

    I'm not arguing btw, genuinely wondering.


  • #19
    poppyvalley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 372 ✭✭poppyvalley


    Tchaikovsky wrote: »
    Report the exploitative *****
    the WAH??:confused:


  • #20
    OutlawPete
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    Mark200 wrote: »
    It's one of the highest, if not the highest, in Europe.

    €350 for a 40 Hour week. How could people live on less that this and pay for Health Insurance, Rent, Food, GP etc etc


  • #21
    Tchaikovsky
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,185 ✭✭✭Tchaikovsky


    Voltex wrote: »
    A minimum wage set during an economic boom...and then bumped up again is criminal.
    £5 p/h I say!
    The law is the law.. you break it, you pay the consequences.


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  • #22
    d22ontour
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,392 ✭✭✭d22ontour


    Mark200 wrote: »
    The minimum wage should have been lowered since we're now in deflation.

    What % of the workforce are actually on minimum wage though ? Am sure it must be more than 50% if a decrease is needed... :rolleyes:


  • #23
    OutlawPete
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    myflipflops wrote: »
    Does Ireland not have quite a high minimim wage relative to the most of the rest of the world?

    I'm not arguing btw, genuinely wondering.

    It's €8.60 an hour I think and that's around 6th in Europe, could be wrong.

    The Tax rate is lowered now also so I think Minimum wage is not as good as it was a few years back.


  • #24
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Nevore wrote: »
    Anyway, we need a high minimum wage to incentivise working. If anything we should slash the "jobseekers allowance" (and yes, by commas, I'm implying a lot of claimants are spurious) and put whatever money is saved into cancer vaccines.



  • #25
    greendom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,382 ✭✭✭✭greendom


    superscouse wrote: »
    At what expense?

    Pricing us out of the international markets so all the companies export the jobs leaving us with zilch?

    Then everyone loses.

    Supporting the less well off is one thing but .....

    At the expense of the better off who can well afford it.

    More equal societies almost always do better btw...

    http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/books/non-fiction/article5859108.ece


  • #26
    Mark200
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭Mark200


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    €350 for a 40 Hour week. How could people live on less that this and pay for Health Insurance, Rent, Food, GP etc etc

    Don't get health insurance. Rent a room. I'd hardly class a GP as a regular expenditure.
    d22ontour wrote: »
    What % of the workforce are actually on minimum wage though ? Am sure it must be more than 50% if a decrease is needed... :rolleyes:

    How did you come to that conclusion:confused:


  • #27
    OutlawPete
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    Mark200 wrote: »
    Don't get health insurance. Rent a room.

    I am of the firm belief that everyone should have their own home.

    You might be happy to see the citizens of Ireland just renting a room but I wouldn't be.


  • #28
    davyjose
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    Voltex wrote: »
    £5 p/h I say!

    Will they take it to the currency exchange for them first?


  • #29
    Mark200
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭Mark200


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    I am of the firm belief that everyone should have their own home.

    You might be happy to see the citizens of Ireland just renting a room but I wouldn't be.

    Someone said we need a high minimum wage to incentivise working... well if you're going to have it high enough for people to get their own house, health insurance etc... then what exactly is there to incentivise education?


  • #30
    OutlawPete
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    Mark200 wrote: »
    Someone said we need a high minimum wage to incentivise working... well if you're going to have it high enough for people to get their own house, health insurance etc... then what exactly is there to incentivise education?

    I'm not saying the should raise it to €20 an hour or something but there should be enough to have the basics and I believe a Health Insurance policy in this country is needed what with the state of the public system.


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  • #31
    Mark200
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭Mark200


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    I'm not saying the should raise it to €20 an hour or something but there should be enough to have the basics and I believe a Health Insurance policy in this country is needed what with the state of the public system.

    A single room and food is the basics. If you want more, you can work harder or get an education required for a better paying job.


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