At what point do you call the gardai?

humberklog · 01-02-2010 03:21AM

kumate_champ07 wrote: »

humberklog wrote: »

I gave a brief description. I heard a sound like someone being thrown around a room, I heard someone battering at a door, a womans voice in distress.

That's quite a different description, just as brief but less vague.

Abi · 01-02-2010 03:31AM

kumate_champ07 wrote: »

This just happened. was sitting in my flat on the computer, heard some noise upstairs. a man and a woman shouting, door being banged, some loud thud sounds like something heavy being dropped, theres also been the sound of a newborn baby crying for the past couple of days but I wasnt sure if that was from the same place.

humberklog wrote:

Ok right I'm obviously missing something here in this sentence. That is as vague as something very vague indeed in my book. Noises, shouting, door slamming?!! Come on. Y'know what you got there? A row.

By the way new born babies do have tendency to cry a lot.

Well you massacred the whole thing there.

Personally if it was a continuation of these events I'd be a little concerned too. Theres a kid that can't speak for itself, so I think people should hold their fire here. Granted, OP doesn't know exactly what its about, but you're not the one listeninig to this.

Yes its not abnormal that couples have disagreements, yes a baby can add to these problems. But it didn't ask to be born into all this, and the couple themselves don't always realise that they need help.

There is a point where neither party are in the wrong here, and quite frankly, I think its admirable in this day and age that the OP gives a shyte.

Gary ITR · 01-02-2010 03:39AM

neuromancer wrote: »

Gardai say you made the call from apartment downstairs, bloke comes round to your place for a "little chat".

Then you might want to call the gardai for a reason.

Gardai won't say where the call came from. Fair play OP

amandakola · 01-02-2010 03:41AM

if the arguing and noises were enough to make you worry it might be violent, then i think you were right to call the guards. sometimes you have to trust your instincts. and besides, you just have the weigh these things up.
yes maybe it was just a row and it will seem like you're overreacting. but maybe it's not, and you could potentially be saving a life. i'd play it safe and call the cops too.

kumate_champ07 · 01-02-2010 03:42AM

Onkle wrote: »

Gardai won't say where the call came from. Fair play OP

thanks

I figured that too but Im not too worried if he found out it was me.

Mrmoe · 01-02-2010 03:43AM

No harm to call the Gardai, even if they don't call around to the couple at least they have it on record that something happened for future reference if something untoward happens. Tough position to be in. Is this a regular occurencence? Do you know them?

Adyx · 01-02-2010 03:44AM

I can't find the details now but in the Sixties (I think) there was a woman killed literally on her doorstep in a block of flats. Despite her screams for help not one of neighbours tried to help or even called the police because they didn't want to get involved. She was left for dead but could possibly have been saved had someone called an ambulance. How much effort would it have taken a neighbour to make one phone call?

Maybe this wasn't the likely outcome in this case but it's better to be safe than sorry and have something like this on your conscience.

kumate_champ07 · 01-02-2010 03:44AM

amandakola wrote: »

if the arguing and noises were enough to make you worry it might be violent, then i think you were right to call the guards. sometimes you have to trust your instincts. and besides, you just have the weigh these things up.
yes maybe it was just a row and it will seem like you're overreacting. but maybe it's not, and you could potentially be saving a life. i'd play it safe and call the cops too.

I think that is it.

perhaps it could have got uglier if i had not called them. maybe the fact that the gardai were called will make the guy realise he might have gone too far and will try get help/sort things out

I do not regret calling them.

Red_Marauder · 01-02-2010 03:47AM

kumate_champ07 wrote: »

perhaps it could have got uglier if i had not called them. maybe the fact that the gardai were called will make the guy realise he might have gone too far and will try get help/sort things out

Have to agree with this.
If I was having a domestic with my other half and someone called the police, I reckon we'd feel so bad (and indeed embarrassed) about it that we'd have to seriously question our behaviour and at the least keep it under control in future.

Gary ITR · 01-02-2010 03:58AM

kumate_champ07 wrote: »

thanks

I figured that too but Im not too worried if he found out it was me.

Ah sure if he did come round and threaten you could always get a few of the internet knowalls from this place to go round and throw their keyboards at him

kumate_champ07 · 01-02-2010 04:08AM

Onkle wrote: »

Ah sure if he did come round and threaten you could always get a few of the internet knowalls from this place to go round and throw their keyboards at him

what are you hinting at?

I highly doubt he would want to threaten me

Stephen_2010 · 01-02-2010 04:15AM

humberklog wrote: »

Yes you were wrong. No one likes a snitch.

humberklog wrote: »

You had a "little chat" with the Gardai.

humberklog wrote: »

No, I don't think he was right in the first instance ringing the police and linking news article on a murder isn't helping. Seriously jumping the gun I think. Really is an over-reaction.

So, a Mod takes it upon him/herself to 'advise' a Boards member not to interfere in a situation they feared involved domestic violence? And by doing so they proved themselves to be a "snitch".

Sweet ****ing Jesus.

Gary ITR · 01-02-2010 04:19AM

kumate_champ07 wrote: »

what are you hinting at?

I highly doubt he would want to threaten me

I doubt it too.

Stephen_2010 wrote: »

So, a Mod takes it upon him/herself to 'advise' a Boards member not to interfere in a situation they feared involved domestic violence? And by doing so they proved themselves to be a "snitch".

Sweet ****ing Jesus.

What's being a mod got to do with it? And he's not a mod of this forum anyway

Stephen_2010 · 01-02-2010 04:37AM

Onkle wrote: »

What's being a mod got to do with it? And he's not a mod of this forum anyway

Ah, it's just on other forums I frequent the Mods tend to display a hint of responsibility and intelligence. I know, I know, they're unfashionable concepts.

Overheal · 01-02-2010 04:40AM

neuromancer wrote: »

Gardai say you made the call from apartment downstairs, bloke comes round to your place for a "little chat".

Then you might want to call the gardai for a reason.

Yeah because the Gards are going to point the finger at you like that :rolleyes:

Its more like "We received a complaint from one of your neighbours that XYZ" Notice the lack of specifics. Its not like their going to say "Yeah, Tom gave us a buzz. Said you were being a bit of a dickhead to your missus and he thinks you're a bit of a c*nt."

humberklog wrote: »

Ok right I'm obviously missing something here in this sentence. That is as vague as something very vague indeed in my book. Noises, shouting, door slamming?!! Come on. Y'know what you got there? A row.

By the way new born babies do have tendency to cry a lot.

I guess you aren't familiar with the definitions of Assault and Battery then.

You did perfect Kumate.

Humberklog wrote:

linking news article on a murder isn't helping. Seriously jumping the gun I think.

That may very well be but Domestic Abuse doesn't start and end with Murder, or even Physical Violence.

Gary ITR · 01-02-2010 04:42AM

Stephen_2010 wrote: »

Ah, it's just on other forums I frequent the Mods tend to display a hint of responsibility and intelligence. I know, I know, they're unfashionable concepts.

Would you ever pull your head out of your hole

congo_90 · 01-02-2010 05:13AM

Stephen_2010 wrote: »

Ah, it's just on other forums I frequent the Mods tend to display a hint of responsibility and intelligence. I know, I know, they're unfashionable concepts.

^^ Don't feed the troll. ^^

To the op, You done the right thing. You're fear of the hubby is not a bad thing. Your call to the gards was anonymous. Posting on boards. A public site nearly always number 1 on google is bad. Especially on the night of the incident. Your neighbour may frequent here. The upsdie is anonymity of the internet too.

Fair play calling the gards. Even if nothing went down you were availing of their service

Overheal · 01-02-2010 05:16AM

Posting on boards a public site nearly always number 1 on google is bad. Especially on the night of the incident.

As if after arguing with his wife and getting visited by the Gardai the first thought in his head is going to be to check google to see if his incident has made the News :rolleyes:

seanybiker · 01-02-2010 05:17AM

Your in trouble if your neighbour comes on here later to tell us about how his beyatch wouldnt listen to him and some cracka rang the police on him.

seanybiker · 01-02-2010 05:18AM

Overheal wrote: »

As if after arguing with his wife and getting visited by the Gardai the first thought in his head is going to be to check google to see if his incident has made the News :rolleyes:

what would he type into google anyways. 'who called the cops on me' wouldnt work. Then again he could ask jeeves

Overheal · 01-02-2010 05:18AM

seanybiker wrote: »

Your in trouble if your neighbour comes on here later to tell us about how his beyatch wouldnt listen to him and some cracka rang the police on him.

Its not like he cant just call the Gards again if the husband tries to threaten him.

DamoDLK · 01-02-2010 08:20AM

OP you were dead right calling the Gardai, thats what they're there for. Fair play.

I'd certainly do likewise in your situation.

angel01 · 01-02-2010 08:23AM

The police won't bother showing, I rang them twice yesterday to call out over a serious issue and they didn't bother showing. They are useless :mad:

soups05 · 01-02-2010 11:02AM

angel01 wrote: »

The police won't bother showing, I rang them twice yesterday to call out over a serious issue and they didn't bother showing. They are useless :mad:

not useless, just busy getting called out to every little disagreement in the country cos some people think every man will use his fists in a row rather than blow off steam verbally and than have fantastic make-up sex

biko · 01-02-2010 11:49AM

Don't worry about that guy OP. Men who hit women are usually chicken****s anyway.

keefg · 01-02-2010 01:02PM

Getting involved with other people domestics is always a tricky decision, I know from experience.

Years ago while drinking in Temple Bar with some workmates we saw some guy shouting and screaming at a woman while grabbing the front of her coat and shaking her around the place, we stepped in and pulled him away from her and she went nuts at us :eek:

She told us to fcuk off and leave him alone then the two of them walked off arm in arm

BluesBerry · 01-02-2010 01:17PM

OP personally I think you shouldnt get involved if they found out you could get the backlash from it
If anyone male/female is stupid enough to stay in a relationship like that whats the point in putting yourself into danger in trying to help when they always turn on the person that steps in and tries to help
I know this from experience I tried to help out someone in my family and in return the both of them turned nasty and hostile towards me
If they wont help themselves seriously dont bother it always come back and slaps you in the face

sbsquarepants · 01-02-2010 02:46PM

Guy next door to me a few years back used to thump the head off his missus most weekends, she gave as good as she got too by the way. I never once rang the cops or intervened in any way. As far as i'm concerned it was none of my business. My attitude is, if she's prepared to put up with it thats her choice. If he raised his hand to me or mine i'd take the head off his shoulders, but this is a grown woman, well capable of making her own choices, however stupid those choices may seem. Jesus i'm glad i moved from that kip!

Stephen_2010 · 02-02-2010 03:46AM

Onkle wrote: »

Would you ever pull your head out of your hole

I will, I promise. So, you too agree that people who call the Gardai when they fear domestic abuse is in full swing and that a crying child might indicate a minor is also at risk, are just....snitches?

Cool! Enjoy the attachment!

Overheal · 02-02-2010 06:09AM

angel01 wrote: »

The police won't bother showing, I rang them twice yesterday to call out over a serious issue and they didn't bother showing. They are useless :mad:

The fact that you say "Serious issue" just makes me think its so laughable that the very nature of it cannot be uttered here for fear of our ridicule

At what point do you call the gardai?

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