At what point do you call the gardai?

kumate_champ07 · 01-02-2010 1:18am #1

This just happened

I was sitting in my flat on the computer, heard some noise upstairs. a man and a woman shouting, door being banged, some loud thud sounds like something heavy being dropped, theres also been the sound of a newborn baby crying for the past couple of days but I wasnt sure if that was from the same place.

I didnt call them straight away as couples tend to have fights every so often but after a while of hearing the commotion above me on a Sunday night I wasnt taking any chances

they guards came quickly and went up, talked to them, she's staying there with the guy now and didnt want to leave.

was I wrong calling the gardai over a domestic? hearing loud noises with the shouting had me worried. I had a neighbour almost killed right across from me in a flat before.

at what point to you decide a situation is dangerous enough to get the police involved?

artanevilla · 01-02-2010 1:20am

I wouldn't.

humberklog · 01-02-2010 1:21am

Yes you were wrong. No one likes a snitch.

SubrbanOblivion · 01-02-2010 1:23am

As someone who has been a victim of domestic violence, I say better to call over something little than not call and someone get seriously hurt.

Choke · 01-02-2010 1:23am

Chances are the woman just chucked a few things at the guy.

You probably shouldn't have called - every tiff can't involve the Gardaí.

kumate_champ07 · 01-02-2010 1:26am

SubrbanOblivion wrote: »

I say better to call over something little than not call and someone get seriously hurt.

thats what I was thinking

I dont want to have someone seriously injured or even dead knowing I could have maybe stopped it from happening

jd007 · 01-02-2010 1:26am

It's hard to know really. Could be seen as just butting in on other peoples business or genuinely trying to help someone.

Lord Nikon · 01-02-2010 1:27am

Call them anonymously if you do, you don't want it to come back and bite you.

kumate_champ07 · 01-02-2010 1:28am

Choke wrote: »

every tiff can't involve the Gardaí.

and thats what I'm asking, which tiffs should involve the gardai?

also there are neighbours with jobs/college, Im sure they dont want to be listening to people shouting at 00.30hrs

kumate_champ07 · 01-02-2010 1:28am

neuromancer wrote: »

Call them anonymously if you do, you don't want it to come back and bite you.

in what way?

kowloon · 01-02-2010 1:30am

I usually wait until the shouting stops and the only noises are muffled bangs and the rustling of black bags.

humberklog · 01-02-2010 1:32am

kumate_champ07 wrote: »

and thats what I'm asking, which tiffs should involve the gardai?

also there are neighbours with jobs/college, Im sure they dont want to be listening to people shouting at 00.30hrs

Then let them make the call and for the reason of disturbing the peace.

Lord Nikon · 01-02-2010 1:33am

Gardai say you made the call from apartment downstairs, bloke comes round to your place for a "little chat".

Then you might want to call the gardai for a reason.

MaybeLogic · 01-02-2010 1:34am

kumate_champ07 wrote: »

in what way?

Hope your neighbour isn't a Boardsie (or friend of) , for example.

Roro4Brit · 01-02-2010 1:34am

Is her name Luka And does she live on the second floor by any chance!?

Choke · 01-02-2010 1:36am

Fixed

Roro4Brit wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQ0L7O_khbs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INSJ_MnOKfk

some food for thought.

kumate_champ07 · 01-02-2010 1:37am

http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0128/sandyford.html

"A woman in her 30s, who was found dead at an apartment in Sandyford this morning, was the third fatal stabbing victim this year."

the alarm was raised too late for that woman

kumate_champ07 · 01-02-2010 1:39am

neuromancer wrote: »

Gardai say you made the call from apartment downstairs, bloke comes round to your place for a "little chat".

lol, I'm not the kind of guy to have a "little chat" with

humberklog · 01-02-2010 1:40am

kumate_champ07 wrote: »

lol, I'm not the kind of guy to have a "little chat" with

You had a "little chat" with the Gardai.

kumate_champ07 · 01-02-2010 1:42am

humberklog wrote: »

You had a "little chat" with the Gardai.

???

"Gardai say you made the call from apartment downstairs, bloke comes round to your place for a "little chat".

Then you might want to call the gardai for a reason."

I was referring to the notion that my neighbour could physically harm me

Roro4Brit · 01-02-2010 1:43am

Choke wrote: »

Fixed

Thanks - what the hell is up with my YouTube links - they never work - could it be that I copy em from YouTube mobile!? Pisses me off!

Lord Nikon · 01-02-2010 1:44am

Anything is possible.

humberklog · 01-02-2010 1:45am

kumate_champ07 wrote: »

???

I was referring to the notion that my neighbour could physically harm me

You've got a bit of a thing with regards to your neighbour and physical violence.

_Buck Rogers · 01-02-2010 1:50am

humberklog wrote: »

You've got a bit of a thing with regards to your neighbour and physical violence.

Mod @ baiting?

fail.

humberklog · 01-02-2010 1:53am

_Buck Rogers wrote: »

Mod @ baiting?

fail.

No, I don't think he was right in the first instance ringing the police and linking news article on a murder isn't helping. Seriously jumping the gun I think. Really is an over-reaction.

kumate_champ07 · 01-02-2010 1:55am

humberklog wrote: »

You've got a bit of a thing with regards to your neighbour and physical violence.

?

Euro_Kraut · 01-02-2010 1:56am

neuromancer wrote: »

Gardai say you made the call from apartment downstairs, bloke comes round to your place for a "little chat".

Then you might want to call the gardai for a reason.

So you suggest not calling the Gaurds during a possible case of domestic violence because you are afraid of the bully husband coming down and hitting you?

Can't you see that you are letting thugs win with that attitude?

OP you were correct to call. People bury there heads far too often in this country. Well done.

Red_Marauder · 01-02-2010 2:00am

Yes OP you were correct to call.

Maybe if nothing else you've taught them not to raise their voices excessively so that their neighbours can hear it - so from that point of view I'm sure it won't do any harm for their kid. Parents really shouldnt scream around young kids. It's very scary in my experience.

Sounds like you made the right call, I'd hope I'd do the same, not just adjust the tv and ignore that type of thing.

oppenheimer1 · 01-02-2010 2:01am

If he thought a crime was being committed then he did the right thing calling the guards. Thats what they are there for. Too often there are regrets where people didn't tell the authorities for whatever reason.

In this situation he may have been wrong, but there is no negative consequence as opposed to him doing nothing when he thought there may have been a case of domestic violence.

humberklog · 01-02-2010 2:04am

kumate_champ07 wrote: »

This just happened

I was sitting in my flat on the computer, heard some noise upstairs. a man and a woman shouting, door being banged, some loud thud sounds like something heavy being dropped, theres also been the sound of a newborn baby crying for the past couple of days but I wasnt sure if that was from the same place.

QUOTE]

Ok right I'm obviously missing something here in this sentence. That is as vague as something very vague indeed in my book. Noises, shouting, door slamming?!! Come on. Y'know what you got there? A row.

By the way new born babies do have tendency to cry a lot.

kumate_champ07 · 01-02-2010 2:17am

humberklog wrote: »

kumate_champ07 wrote: »

This just happened

I was sitting in my flat on the computer, heard some noise upstairs. a man and a woman shouting, door being banged, some loud thud sounds like something heavy being dropped, theres also been the sound of a newborn baby crying for the past couple of days but I wasnt sure if that was from the same place.

QUOTE]

Ok right I'm obviously missing something here in this sentence. That is as vague as something very vague indeed in my book. Noises, shouting, door slamming?!! Come on. Y'know what you got there? A row.

By the way new born babies do have tendency to cry a lot.

I gave a brief description. I heard a sound like someone being thrown around a room, I heard someone battering at a door, a womans voice in distress.

Yes babies cry but if theres a baby also in that room it could be in trouble. babies have been murdered in Ireland before

humberklog · 01-02-2010 2:21am

kumate_champ07 wrote: »

humberklog wrote: »

I gave a brief description. I heard a sound like someone being thrown around a room, I heard someone battering at a door, a womans voice in distress.

That's quite a different description, just as brief but less vague.

Abi · 01-02-2010 2:31am

kumate_champ07 wrote: »

This just happened. was sitting in my flat on the computer, heard some noise upstairs. a man and a woman shouting, door being banged, some loud thud sounds like something heavy being dropped, theres also been the sound of a newborn baby crying for the past couple of days but I wasnt sure if that was from the same place.

humberklog wrote:

Ok right I'm obviously missing something here in this sentence. That is as vague as something very vague indeed in my book. Noises, shouting, door slamming?!! Come on. Y'know what you got there? A row.

By the way new born babies do have tendency to cry a lot.

Well you massacred the whole thing there.

Personally if it was a continuation of these events I'd be a little concerned too. Theres a kid that can't speak for itself, so I think people should hold their fire here. Granted, OP doesn't know exactly what its about, but you're not the one listeninig to this.

Yes its not abnormal that couples have disagreements, yes a baby can add to these problems. But it didn't ask to be born into all this, and the couple themselves don't always realise that they need help.

There is a point where neither party are in the wrong here, and quite frankly, I think its admirable in this day and age that the OP gives a shyte.

Gary ITR · 01-02-2010 2:39am

neuromancer wrote: »

Gardai say you made the call from apartment downstairs, bloke comes round to your place for a "little chat".

Then you might want to call the gardai for a reason.

Gardai won't say where the call came from. Fair play OP

amandakola · 01-02-2010 2:41am

if the arguing and noises were enough to make you worry it might be violent, then i think you were right to call the guards. sometimes you have to trust your instincts. and besides, you just have the weigh these things up.
yes maybe it was just a row and it will seem like you're overreacting. but maybe it's not, and you could potentially be saving a life. i'd play it safe and call the cops too.

kumate_champ07 · 01-02-2010 2:42am

Onkle wrote: »

Gardai won't say where the call came from. Fair play OP

thanks

I figured that too but Im not too worried if he found out it was me.

Mrmoe · 01-02-2010 2:43am

No harm to call the Gardai, even if they don't call around to the couple at least they have it on record that something happened for future reference if something untoward happens. Tough position to be in. Is this a regular occurencence? Do you know them?

Adyx · 01-02-2010 2:44am

I can't find the details now but in the Sixties (I think) there was a woman killed literally on her doorstep in a block of flats. Despite her screams for help not one of neighbours tried to help or even called the police because they didn't want to get involved. She was left for dead but could possibly have been saved had someone called an ambulance. How much effort would it have taken a neighbour to make one phone call?

Maybe this wasn't the likely outcome in this case but it's better to be safe than sorry and have something like this on your conscience.

kumate_champ07 · 01-02-2010 2:44am

amandakola wrote: »

if the arguing and noises were enough to make you worry it might be violent, then i think you were right to call the guards. sometimes you have to trust your instincts. and besides, you just have the weigh these things up.
yes maybe it was just a row and it will seem like you're overreacting. but maybe it's not, and you could potentially be saving a life. i'd play it safe and call the cops too.

I think that is it.

perhaps it could have got uglier if i had not called them. maybe the fact that the gardai were called will make the guy realise he might have gone too far and will try get help/sort things out

I do not regret calling them.

Red_Marauder · 01-02-2010 2:47am

kumate_champ07 wrote: »

perhaps it could have got uglier if i had not called them. maybe the fact that the gardai were called will make the guy realise he might have gone too far and will try get help/sort things out

Have to agree with this.
If I was having a domestic with my other half and someone called the police, I reckon we'd feel so bad (and indeed embarrassed) about it that we'd have to seriously question our behaviour and at the least keep it under control in future.

Gary ITR · 01-02-2010 2:58am

kumate_champ07 wrote: »

thanks

I figured that too but Im not too worried if he found out it was me.

Ah sure if he did come round and threaten you could always get a few of the internet knowalls from this place to go round and throw their keyboards at him

kumate_champ07 · 01-02-2010 3:08am

Onkle wrote: »

Ah sure if he did come round and threaten you could always get a few of the internet knowalls from this place to go round and throw their keyboards at him

what are you hinting at?

I highly doubt he would want to threaten me

Stephen_2010 · 01-02-2010 3:15am

humberklog wrote: »

Yes you were wrong. No one likes a snitch.

humberklog wrote: »

You had a "little chat" with the Gardai.

humberklog wrote: »

No, I don't think he was right in the first instance ringing the police and linking news article on a murder isn't helping. Seriously jumping the gun I think. Really is an over-reaction.

So, a Mod takes it upon him/herself to 'advise' a Boards member not to interfere in a situation they feared involved domestic violence? And by doing so they proved themselves to be a "snitch".

Sweet ****ing Jesus.

Gary ITR · 01-02-2010 3:19am

kumate_champ07 wrote: »

what are you hinting at?

I highly doubt he would want to threaten me

I doubt it too.

Stephen_2010 wrote: »

So, a Mod takes it upon him/herself to 'advise' a Boards member not to interfere in a situation they feared involved domestic violence? And by doing so they proved themselves to be a "snitch".

Sweet ****ing Jesus.

What's being a mod got to do with it? And he's not a mod of this forum anyway

Stephen_2010 · 01-02-2010 3:37am

Onkle wrote: »

What's being a mod got to do with it? And he's not a mod of this forum anyway

Ah, it's just on other forums I frequent the Mods tend to display a hint of responsibility and intelligence. I know, I know, they're unfashionable concepts.

Overheal · 01-02-2010 3:40am

neuromancer wrote: »

Gardai say you made the call from apartment downstairs, bloke comes round to your place for a "little chat".

Then you might want to call the gardai for a reason.

Yeah because the Gards are going to point the finger at you like that :rolleyes:

Its more like "We received a complaint from one of your neighbours that XYZ" Notice the lack of specifics. Its not like their going to say "Yeah, Tom gave us a buzz. Said you were being a bit of a dickhead to your missus and he thinks you're a bit of a c*nt."

humberklog wrote: »

Ok right I'm obviously missing something here in this sentence. That is as vague as something very vague indeed in my book. Noises, shouting, door slamming?!! Come on. Y'know what you got there? A row.

By the way new born babies do have tendency to cry a lot.

I guess you aren't familiar with the definitions of Assault and Battery then.

You did perfect Kumate.

Humberklog wrote:

linking news article on a murder isn't helping. Seriously jumping the gun I think.

That may very well be but Domestic Abuse doesn't start and end with Murder, or even Physical Violence.

Gary ITR · 01-02-2010 3:42am

Stephen_2010 wrote: »

Ah, it's just on other forums I frequent the Mods tend to display a hint of responsibility and intelligence. I know, I know, they're unfashionable concepts.

Would you ever pull your head out of your hole

congo_90 · 01-02-2010 4:13am

Stephen_2010 wrote: »

Ah, it's just on other forums I frequent the Mods tend to display a hint of responsibility and intelligence. I know, I know, they're unfashionable concepts.

^^ Don't feed the troll. ^^

To the op, You done the right thing. You're fear of the hubby is not a bad thing. Your call to the gards was anonymous. Posting on boards. A public site nearly always number 1 on google is bad. Especially on the night of the incident. Your neighbour may frequent here. The upsdie is anonymity of the internet too.

Fair play calling the gards. Even if nothing went down you were availing of their service

Overheal · 01-02-2010 4:16am

Posting on boards a public site nearly always number 1 on google is bad. Especially on the night of the incident.

As if after arguing with his wife and getting visited by the Gardai the first thought in his head is going to be to check google to see if his incident has made the News :rolleyes:

seanybiker · 01-02-2010 4:17am

Your in trouble if your neighbour comes on here later to tell us about how his beyatch wouldnt listen to him and some cracka rang the police on him.

seanybiker · 01-02-2010 4:18am

Overheal wrote: »

As if after arguing with his wife and getting visited by the Gardai the first thought in his head is going to be to check google to see if his incident has made the News :rolleyes:

what would he type into google anyways. 'who called the cops on me' wouldnt work. Then again he could ask jeeves

At what point do you call the gardai?

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