1,000,000 Volts Vs 230 Volts

Voltex · 29-01-2010 10:58PM #1

Im no electrician...but how is it that idiots on Youtube can stun themselves with 1,000,000 volts and not suffer any injuries yet if I go and stick a fork in the plug socket Ill probably end up brown bread?

mikom · 29-01-2010 11:00PM

Voltex wrote: »

Im no electrician...but how is it that idiots on Youtube can stun themselves with 1,000,000 volts and not suffer any injuries yet if I go and stick a fork in the plug socket Ill probably end up brown bread?
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Shocking post to be fair....

TheZohanS · 29-01-2010 11:01PM

Mikoms ghost... wrote: »

Shocking post to be fair....

Watt?

minidazzler · 29-01-2010 11:02PM

Firstly, Stun guns do not carry 1,000,000 volts.

Secondly, it all has to do with how long your body is in contact with the source of electricity, you will go into cardaic arrest if you hold a fork in a wall socket, same as you would if you had a constant force of a stun gun coarsing through you.

Hank_Jones · 29-01-2010 11:02PM

I don't know about the 1 million volts, but 230 is more likely to kill you as you are part of a circuit.
The 230 would be passing through you for enough time to kill you. Small amounts of electricity can actually kill you, much less than 230v.

mikom · 29-01-2010 11:02PM

TheZohan wrote: »

Watt?

The truth Hertz

Voltex · 29-01-2010 11:02PM

Mikoms ghost... wrote: »

Shocking post to be fair....

I thought it was rather electryfying!

My name is URL · 29-01-2010 11:03PM

Volts don't kill, Amps do

MagicMarker · 29-01-2010 11:03PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Volts don't kill, Amps do

Only if you turn them up to 11.

Voltex · 29-01-2010 11:04PM

Mikoms ghost... wrote: »

The truth Hertz

The car rental people??

TheZohanS · 29-01-2010 11:04PM

Mikoms ghost... wrote: »

The truth Hertz

I don't let it phase me.

Genghiz Cohen · 29-01-2010 11:05PM

It's the ampage that counts. Sure you need a certain amount of voltage to pass through different objects, but Apmage is the amount of current that actually passes through you.

1,000,000 volt charge can jump through the air but transforming the voltage up that high causes you to lose ampage, meaning the jolt is less painful.

etc.

29-01-2010 11:05PM

It's the volts that jolt, but the mills that kill.

Voltex · 29-01-2010 11:08PM

Deleted User wrote: »

It's the volts that jolt, but the mills that kill.

Ok...so does that actually mean anything?

Effects · 29-01-2010 11:09PM

minidazzler wrote: »

Firstly, Stun guns do not carry 1,000,000 volts.

Secondly, it all has to do with how long your body is in contact with the source of electricity, you will go into cardaic arrest if you hold a fork in a wall socket, same as you would if you had a constant force of a stun gun coarsing through you.

Not likely. The protective device will more than likely trip before it has the chance to kill you.

Overheal · 29-01-2010 11:11PM

Voltex wrote: »

Ok...so does that actually mean anything?

Cardiac arrest can happen in as low a current as 0.2mA if I remember my facts correctly. Voltage is the term for the carriage of that charge.

minidazzler · 29-01-2010 11:11PM

Effects wrote: »

Not likely. The protective device will more than likely trip before it has the chance to kill you.

Yeah, I know that, but still, don't tell kids that! haha.

Overheal · 29-01-2010 11:15PM

Overheal wrote: »

Cardiac arrest can happen in as low a current as 0.2mA if I remember my facts correctly. Voltage is the term for the carriage of that charge.

X!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_shock

The average seems to be considered 100mA carried along 50V

Armin_Tamzarian · 29-01-2010 11:16PM

Short exposure to 230v AC is unlikely to kill you due to the large resistance of the human body.
A live cable can only cause harm to you if your body creates a link between the cable and Earth.
The human body will usually impede the flow electricity to a safe level though obviously prolonged exposure could be lethal.

Tasers use DC voltage which doesn't work the same as AC.
The taser probably emits a set voltage such as 1/1000 of an amp.

29-01-2010 11:17PM

Effects wrote: »

Not likely. The protective device will more than likely trip before it has the chance to kill you.

Assuming that your house has modern wiring that actually has one fitted, also you are not trying it on in an IT area with a 100mA RCCD fitted.

Overheal · 29-01-2010 11:18PM

Tazers still have the potential to kill with prolonged exposure though.

29-01-2010 11:20PM

Overheal wrote: »

X!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_shock

The average seems to be considered 100mA carried along 50V

It's still possible to kill someone with a 9v battery, if the wires connected to it pierce the body in certain locations (don't try this at home!).

Armin_Tamzarian · 29-01-2010 11:21PM

Deleted User wrote: »

It's still possible to kill someone with a 9v battery

Especially if it's wrapped in a sock.

dougal-maguire · 29-01-2010 11:21PM

that clip was revolting

Voltex · 29-01-2010 11:25PM

seem to have a few technical show offs here.

pls put it in total layman terms!!

Mrmoe · 29-01-2010 11:25PM

Mikoms ghost... wrote: »

The truth Hertz

Those types of jokes will meet with a lot of resistence around here.

Overheal · 29-01-2010 11:27PM

Mrmoe wrote: »

Those types of jokes will meet with a lot of resistence around here.

Ohman I am so sick of these threads.

Columbia · 29-01-2010 11:30PM

Tasers can kill people, over the summer some American cop got into a whole heap of trouble because he tasered someone (about) 9 times and they ended up dying from it.

JohnCleary · 29-01-2010 11:31PM

As has been said before, it's the current that'll kill you

Higher the voltage, the less the current. A good example would be to look at the thickness of the cables that carry power accross the country, high voltage, low current (it's the current that'll melt the cable). When you lower the voltage, the current increases. That's why you nee nice big thick cables going to the starter in your car... low voltage, high current

Again as has been said, stun-guns carry nowhere near 1mil volts. The ones i've used before carry 50,000v

Overheal · 29-01-2010 11:32PM

Columbia wrote: »

Tasers can kill people, over the summer some American cop got into a whole heap of trouble because he tasered someone (about) 9 times and they ended up dying from it.

And before that Canadian Border control done it, etc. etc.

We had a good long talk about that one here - youtube video and all of the security guards kicking him on the ground.

JohnCleary · 29-01-2010 11:32PM

Columbia wrote: »

Tasers can kill people, over the summer some American cop got into a whole heap of trouble because he tasered someone (about) 9 times and they ended up dying from it.

Yeah i'd think that would be possible, eventhough it's low current as the voltage can still interfere with the electrical pulses of the body

1,000,000 Volts Vs 230 Volts

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